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pia ward
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 		For those working on the puzzles, FFEY-T has added detailed explanations to the first set of questions. He says:

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The three first questions have a detailed explanation for you all - it *may* help you with the second chapter...
it *may* not...

Always your Friend,
F.F.E.Y.-T.


For Who: (which explains the 131)

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Luigi Galvani: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani
The 131 letters [yes, 131!] of this epitaph talk of how his life and death affected the world.
The co-ordinates point to the moon and inform you of the crater named after him...
Ignore Aristotle's tool though... Wink


For When:

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Answer: 20 April 1798
Galvani was appointed public lecturer at the University of Bologna and at the age of twenty-five taught anatomy at the Institute of Sciences. He became especially noted as a surgeon and accoucheur. In 1790, after thirty years of wedded life, he lost his wife Lucia, the daughter of Dr. Galeazzi, one of his teachers. He kept his chair at the university until **20 April, 1798**, when he resigned because he would not take the civil oath demanded by the Cisalpine Republic, it being contrary to his political and religious convictions. As a result he had to take refuge with his brother Giacomo and broke down completely through poverty and discouragement. Soon after this his friends obtained his exemption from the oath and his appointment, on account of his scientific fame, as professor emeritus. He died before the decree went into effect...


The Where picture doesn't have any explanation though maybe because pandemonium is still important?

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 		So I'm working on the 45.5 tag and I've run into a few questions, given what he's told us in the comments.

First: He says that "MC is not Roman - FAR from it." When looking at [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_(disambiguation)]other meanings of MC[/url], the one that stuck out at me most was the [urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Cross]Military Cross[/url]. YT has one w/ a bar, awarded 23 May 1944. But... I kind of doubt that anyone in HMSO would have an MC. Seeing as they control stationery. o.O

Second: He says in a comment "4 numbers are sought for from beside the noose and one sought from the rope" but the binary next to the rope yields 6 numbers (169, 75, 192, 153, 179, and 3) and the morse code on the rope yields letters, HMSO. Anyone have any thoughts on how to choose which numbers to use or what the number from the noose would be since MC isn't supposed to be Roman?

Edit to answer my second question: Oh. Dur. Line breaks. So, if you put the binary lines as single lines into a translator you get back 1694, 1880, 1550, and 2051. In all of them, the translator put a space before the last number so I could be completely in the woods... But let's hope not. Very Happy
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 		Is he pointing to the Mayan numbers on the rope?

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 		OMG! That could be it! Thanks booba!

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 		Mayans! Of course! So now we have 1418, 1694, 1880, 1550, and 2051. But now... What do we do with that? And MC?

ETA: So... I may have been jumping to conclusions with the 1418. http://www.michielb.nl/maya/math.html explains Mayan numbers pretty well, and also points out what I may have done wrong. The Mayans showed different place values in their base 20 system by stacking numbers on top of each other. Taking it as 14 (....--) and 18 (...---) stacked, the result is 298. Taking each row as a separate number, the result is 36075. And on and on. Really, 1418 or 298 seems more likely than 36075 or some other insane variations. But... Bah.
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I'm not certain that is accurate. Notice on the card the rope separating each of the Mayan numbers. That seemed to indicate to me, that each was a separate number. Thus 4, 10, 3, 15. However knowing Forest said 1 number should be taken from the rope I looked around and found this.

http://www.michielb.nl/maya/math.html

Apparently the Mayans used a base20 number system. The images there showed me that is you put the numbers in the order Shelley put them on the card, you have to translate them into our number system by using base20 and then adding them. Thus I am led to believe that the number is 36075. You can check my work by calculating it yourself as seen on the website that I have put up a link to, or you can scroll all they way down the page on the site and put 36075 in the text box. You will find that the Mayan numbers that are displayed match perfectly with what Shelley had on the rope, going all the way down vertically, and with spaces in between each one.

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 		Haha, yeah posted that in an edit. Is there a list somewhere of the order Military Crosses were given out in? Cause I'm not sure how a number as big as 36075 would be relevant.

The 298 (grouping them as 14 and 1Cool theory was from each pair of lines being farther apart in the middle. There's like a... rope and a half between the first set of lines and the second set of dots versus a rope-width between the dots and their following lines. But, the dots are in the creases of the rope so I don't think the coils are supposed to be different lines. I think YT would have been more precise with the superimposing if they were? Who knows anymore. XD

Anyone have any theories on how we can translate 5 3+ digit numbers into a date or anything else to do with time?
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Zaranai wrote:
Haha, yeah posted that in an edit. Is there a list somewhere of the order Military Crosses were given out in? Cause I'm not sure how a number as big as 36075 would be relevant.


I looked for military cross issue numbers way back in chaper 1 when I thought 131 might be the number of Forest's George Cross but I couldn't find a numbered list. There are dated lists though so you could work it out if you were desperate/bored enough!

As for the numbers/binary/mayan numbers that has me beat for now. Looking elsewhere in case I catch the meaning out of the corner of my eye, if you catch my drift.

I'm not getting anywhere with Saranna either, except getting sucked into the other ARG... not enough time for that though.

Sorry, not very helpful post.

Can anyone make out the last line of script on Forest's gravestone? The video is a bit blurry and the camera doesn't pan in enough.

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 		Shelley has added a location the the ?When picture. Apparently it was taken in Guatemala....

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 		I apologize for being late in updating on here about my interactions in the game -- I have been away from a computer.

While chatting via Twitter yesterday afternoon (the 16th - I am @erigal80) with F.F.E.Y.-T, I mentioned that 2011 is the Year of the Rabbit. He noted that this is not at all a coincidence. I thought this may help with the investigations . . .

My challenge is keeping the puzzles in each thread (this and Saranna) distinct in my mind.

EDIT: Shelley also shared this photo with me as an attachment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/erigal/5536757743/

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=e95dbad0ff&view=att&th=12ec0f18d227b49b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&zw[/url]

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 		I got confirmation from Shelley. The number is a year thus 1418 would be the number from the rope.

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 		yellowmagazine - The link doesn't seem to be working - see your PM's

ddl - good work, at least one number makes sense!

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 		Edit to above link (photograph sent by Shelley on March 16th
This link below should work better. Sorry!

EDIT: Shelley also shared this photo with me as an attachment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/erigal/5536757743/

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=e95dbad0ff&view=att&th=12ec0f18d227b49b&attid=0.1&disp=inline&zw[/url]

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 		The image has also been added as a favorite of his on Flicker. It appears to be another reference to the Mayans.

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yellowmazine
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 		A dump of research
Ok, more brainstorming:

I am working from Tag One and the tags with the third photo in that set
Thornton Wilder stayed and wrote/worked out of The Algonquin Hotel, which also hosted the Algonquian Round Table at a earlier period. He then published a book in 1948 called "The Ides of March". It details a fictionalized version of the events leading up to the assassination of Julius Caesar (which, by the way, was in 44 BC -- what happened in 45.5 BC)?

I am also inspired by Shelley's last tweets today: "Quinquatria" was a festival running during the five days after the Ides of March in ancient Rome. The ides actually meant "full moon" in that era. March 19th was a festival in honour of Minerva (see Shelley's new avatar). The subsequent four days were for gladiator matches, the last day being March 23rd. This usually kicked off the "war season" for Roman armies.

Finally: http://tribes.tribe.net/b9b544af-89e5-4aa7-8dec-c917f83c3bd7/thread/d4f0f217-ce30-4fad-aca1-a367787d69de

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"Hare in Forest" By Hans Hoffman

Eostre, the Celtic version of Ostara, was a goddess also associated with the moon, and with mythic stories of death, redemption, and resurrection during the turning of winter to spring. Eostre, too, was a shape–shifter, taking the shape of a hare at each full moon; all hares were sacred to her, and acted as her messengers. Cesaer recorded that rabbits and hares were taboo foods to the Celtic tribes. In Ireland, it was said that eating a hare was like eating one's own grandmother — perhaps due to the sacred connection between hares and various goddesses, warrior queens, and female faeries, or else due to the belief that old "wise women" could shape–shift into hares by moonlight. The Celts used rabbits and hares for divination and other shamanic practices by studying the patterns of their tracks, the rituals of their mating dances, and mystic signs within their entrails. It was believed that rabbits burrowed underground in order to better commune with the spirit world, and that they could carry messages from the living to the dead and from humankind to the faeries.
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