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yellowmazine
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 		That is my thought, Ofiuco -- trying a few things today during downtime at work.

Shelley wrote to me after I took a stab at one of the questions: He is not looking for one word answers, but actual processes/explanations/"recipes" where applicable. He added that when he wishes for a one word answer, he will signal it

Learn things the hard way, I do. Razz




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 		Aliases
YT tweeted to Ofiuco,
Quote:
We go by many aliases…

This suggests to me he may be using, or will use, more than two Flickr accounts - and perhaps extra Twitter ones as well... maybe even infiltrating there as one of his own followers?!

Any guesses or discoveries?

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 		I have no doubt there is possibly a mole, but no idea who or what.
Still trying to decrypt my materials!

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pia ward
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 		Email from FFEYT

Quote:
Whyte Black's birthday...
Dear all
[and for those who do not read this missive, please be kind enough to share...]
Today the birthday of one is shown by the numbers of the birthday of another - - -
You have already found the numbers, but perhaps now see why certain things are beyond coincidence...


Now all four keys are known, there is nothing more for us to do but wait: one of you will be able to tell us everything found described by the egg.. We do hope you are enjoying the little jigsaw as well

The body, soul, mind and time
Four dimensions, four keys
Four parchments, four locks
Fore warned, forearmed


Arrange them carefully, and soon: else, well we cannot say what Father has planned any more, but we will not be here forever

Your Freind, as always,

Forest .


And for those working on the cipher the "Freind" linked to this page
http://f09.middlebury.edu/FYSE1280Z/Lectures/Lecture_28_Folder/Lecture_4A.html. I am still trying to figure out the keys although I am pretty sure I've wandered way off course as usual.

EDIT
And there is another key now on 14624's Flickr.

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 		The period after Forest's name also links to the same site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_III_of_Spain

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:27 am
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pia ward
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 		ddl, the one in mine linked to a page about how to solve vignere ciphers (and has picture of Phillip II in it that is similar to the one on Flickr) yours links to Phillip III. I haven't read through that wiki yet but they definitely are different Phillips since they have different b-days.

Here is email I received from Forest this morning. Ignore first part (and Tarot card it seems which just = 14624) but pay attention to last part regarding solving keys which he wants everyone to know and apparently we have to solve SOON. I included all just in case I am missing something since I am very tired today.

The bolded is what Forest wrote so perhaps just skip to very last few paragraphs.

Quote:

Contact Image
FFEYT| forestfredericedwardyeothomasSPLATyahoo.co.uk| Edit Contact
Today, Friday, Apr 15 09:35 AM | Show Details

Re: Re: Whyte Black's birthday...

Pia, [please allow us to be bold and big for the purpose of illustration...]

Thanks again for your message Forest. I am very tired now and don't quite grasp what you are trying to say to me but I
will start again tomorrow and try to see if I can turn the key. I am very persistent like the turtle.


Tarot card = how scientists use their power for evil or for good. Ultimately points to Eugenics.
Which tarot card?

(I've related some of keys to eugenics/ethnic and religious extermination and persecution (golem; phillip the II;
gates) but here only stuff about tarot card otherwise it would be a very long and irritating email to read)

1)James Black used science for good: chemical sign and 14/_/_ _ :

propanolol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propranolol
Propranolol is currently being investigated as a potential treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder.Propranolol
works to inhibit the actions of norepinephrine, a neurotransmitter that enhances memory consolidation. Studies have shown that
individuals given propranolol immediately after a traumatic experience show less severe symptoms of PTSD compared to their
respective control groups that did not receive the drug (Vaiva et al., 2003). Propranolol reduces the effects of nightmare-related
cardiac activity by keeping sinus rhythm low during nightmares, as a higher pulse and increased adrenaline are associated with
severe nightmares."
(also given nobel peace prize for propanolol for hypertension but I assumed had more to do with war so PTSD)
Propanolol created by James W. Black http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._Black

Did it have any other uses? Say, for the heart???

Black was born on 14 June 1924

In number form, this would be?


2) Leonardo used his talents for good and evil: vetruvian man
Extraordinary painter, invented automatons and flight machines etc etc and also
"One such aspect is his respect for life evidenced by his vegetarianism and his habit,
described by Vasari, of purchasing caged birds and releasing them."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci
However, Da Vinci also invented many war machines. According to one article all seemed to include deliberate flaws in their
plans so they would not be used by the military http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/13/1039656218782.html

However, I've found numerous other articles which suggest although he wanted to help Venice against the Ottoman empire,
in the end he didn't care which side used them. http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/davinci/section6.rhtml

Should artists care about their creations, or is the act of creation enough for them???

3) Victor Frankenstein who used his talents for evil: Chemical sign combined with alchemy sign (from http://dtsdapache.hershey.
k12.pa.us/wpmu/hs_aphg/2010/11/10/alchemy/)
combined with lightning bolt:

"As a young man, Frankenstein is interested in the works in alchemists such as Cornelius Agrippa, Paracelsus, and Albertus Magnus,
and he longs to discover the fabled elixir of life. He loses interest in both these pursuits and in science as a whole after seeing
the remains of a tree struck by lightning. However, at the University of Ingolstadt, Frankenstein develops a fondness for chemistry,
and becomes obsessed with the idea of creating life in inanimate matter through artificial means, leaving university to pursue this
goal for the next two years."
Victor Frankenstein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Frankenstein

At end of wiki link to Aldini, nephew of Luigi Galvani

That page leads to article called Sparks of life:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/oct/07/research.highereducation1
"Although a great proponent of electricity's medical potential - it was used to treat paralysis, rheumatism, as a purgative and to
revive drowned people - Aldini admitted that he was unable to restart a HEART (my emphasis since seems to connect with James Black).

Others were less modest, including Carl August Weinhold, a German scientist who claimed to have brought animals back from the dead. In a series of experiments, Weinhold extracted the spinal cords of decapitated kittens, replacing them with zinc and sliver pile batteries,
which generated an electrical charge.Not only did their hearts start beating but, according to Weinhold, the kittens bounded around
for several minutes."

Can life be spent like this at the cost of advancing science? Of advancing humanity?

German wiki on Karl August Weinhold
Something about a pamphlet published in 1827 which looks interesting (to me at least)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_August_Weinhold&ei=cgSlTfzDBYussAOyxtX6DA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcarl%2Baugust%2Bweinhold%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Divns

The pamphlet turns out to be first historical documented attempt at population control
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1464-410X.2003.04490.x/full
POPULATION CONTROL IN THE 18TH CENTURY
"The Enlightenment and Industrialization evoked new concepts of national economy and its relation to population control. The English
economist Thomas Robert Malthus (1766–1834) was one of those theoretical pioneers who vehemently advocated population control in
western countries. His influential work, An Essay on the Principle of Population, first published in 1798, marked the beginning of
the Malthusian movement. In Germany, the controversial surgeon Carl August Weinhold (1782–1829) tried to combine these theories in
1827 and advocated a policy of mandatory state-sponsored infibulation. His book On the Overpopulation of Middle-Europe and its
Consequences for the Nations and their Civilization suggested compulsory infibulation at the age of 14 for all those male citizens
who were deemed unfit to propagate. This included criminals, beggars, chronically diseased people, unmarried servants, and
apprentices and soldiers of the lower ranks. The infibulating wire was to be stamped with an official metal seal to avoid illegal
removal. Weinhold also provided a detailed regimen of punishments for those who refused to obey the state's medicolegal authorities"

All above seems to point to Nazi Germany which was ultimate attempt at eugenics/ethnic and religious cleansing
And there is a page on Eugenics (euthanasia) on H.E.A.R.T.

This is why the axis were fought so hard...

Now, while these are questions that we ask, they will not help you understand the four pictures/parchments that were sent out. They are a puzzle - they need to have their lettering solved, the picture arranged and the answers given to us - we do not know the answers. We merely found the parchments and seek the answers. We know what they are for though, but dare not share out thoughts over such a simple medium as the internet - the knowledge is too precious - hence secure posting and not emailing them.
Should someone understand the full method of the task, solve all four codes and arrange the picture accordingly, they will have priceless knowledge. We will reward them with a piece of commissioned art especially for this 'game' as it were. But the knowledge, the knowledge is the key thing here. We need it, and soon...

Please, share this with the others, people are getting distracted by throwaway comments we have made on the internet about aliases and the like. We are voices on the internet, FFEYT and 14624 - both at flickr.
That is all.
Any other voice - it is not ours.

Please, help us understand how Father achieved his methods - before we have to leave...
Thank you

Forest.


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 		pia- Sorry for the confusion, I was rushing while typing that post earlier today. My links in the word Freind and the "." also led to the Vignere website. The second link is separate, and is in response to Forest saying that "Today the birthday of one is shown by the numbers of the birthday of another."

The date: 14 April 2011- Date of birth of Philip III of Spain(son of Philip II of Spain) and the 14 is the same date in the month as Black's birthday(14 June 1924)

For Shelley's questions:
Forest wrote:
Did it have any other uses? Say, for the heart???


Propranolol was discover by Black when researching adrenaline, so I am assuming from the context that it could be used to restart the heart. In the ritual that is shown in the drawings Forest has sent us, it would seem that propranolol and electricity(from a galvanic battery) are need to restart the heart of the dead person. The galvanic battery is represented in the circle formed by the four papers, the positive and negative galvins along with the bowl of copper which is an ingredient in galvanic batteries(the other is zinc). Not sure about the "voice" thing on one of the papers. I am also thinking, based off of the "Crown" quote, that this contraption/galvanic battery may need to lie on the head of the body. Also, there is the matter of summoning the soul/manitou into the body which seems to have been done through a Mide ritual of healing.

string- Assuming the tag number matches with the key numbers I would recommend that you try and run your letters through a Vignere cipher with the keyphrase Jedem Das Seine or Buchenwald. A little straightforward, but worth a shot.

I will attempt to run my papers through a Vignere using the keyphrase Adam(key1). Even if that works on one of them, the other will need a separate key to solve, which means we need to look into Forest's grave.

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pia ward
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 		Ok. am beginning to sort of understand how these ciphers work. I thought separate puzzles entirely.

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned about FFEY-T's grave - and actually this is on Shelley's- is that Cor Cordium = heart of hearts (and Cor Cordium also title of poem by Algernon Charles Swinburne) so maybe Cor cordium (or maybe just heart) is one of the keyphrases you need.

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 		Attention! Short time frame...
Based upon emails I've just received from FFEYT, you'll want to check out Forest's Flickr pic for Day 5, ASAP...
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Turning a corner - email us with a telephone number and a time frame to call you for a golden ring clue...
you have 24 hours until day 6 is posted...


Of course I followed his directions... intrigued at this new interactive aspect opportunity! :rockon

Edit:

Footnote at the bottom of his email:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Seven days weeken the time left four you to solve the puzzles...
Forest


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 		Wake-up Calls
Hey, all!

I received my first call from the White Rabbit this morning (via a voice synthesizer program wherein he spoke through messages typed on his keyboard!). This was augmented by a musical soundtrack consisting of a World War II era song and the WhiteRabbit song from his early video. Very cool!

And... as a bonus, since I wasn't yet fully awake/comprehending... the PM then called me back using his real voice, and we had a wonderful OOG chat. Laughing

I do hope some of the rest of you email him your phone numbers before the offer expires, so you too can have this awesome experience. You will be allowed to ask 1 question, to request 1 clue!

Anyway, I was asked to share what I now know, so that we can team-solve. Fair enough, because I am more of a strategist and writer than a code-savvy gamer. So... do HELP!!

So first, here is the next email I received last night, after the one quoted in my last post above:
Quote:
numbers given, numbers known?
sharing info or playing alone?
divided we stand, UNited we Fall?
is that what you do recall?

140 characters are hard to track
Hence email alone to keep our back
We walk away soon, and prepare our path
We will call you once we've done the 'math'...

In the mean time, share what has been given
Players such as yourself are driven
to finding truths, and working as a team
Help us now solve our Father's dream.


Today I was told:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
1) There are four keys that have been given to us. These are written in Vigenere cyphers on the four parchments which have been imaged from his second mailing, the four parcels.
2) There will be 12 days of 'Eostre' (Easter) - inspired by the 12 days of Christmas - pictured in the Tarot cards on his Flickr page. To solve this egg puzzle, we should print out the images of the cards and fit them together as a jigsaw puzzle!


Finally, since I was a bit slow, the White Rabbit will be calling me back again later today within the time frame I had emailed with my cell number.

Play on!

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 		OMG. This sounds like the coolest phone call(s) I'd ever get in my entire lifetime!! I did send him my telephone number this morning. And so Rich it does sound like he is part robot like Adam in BVS? (from the synthesizer voice?) Wow, wow, wow.

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 		Ok. That WAS the coolest phone call I will ever get in my lifetime!

I wanted to ask about the golem but since it seems you already have the answer to that ddl and need the one for the grave I asked about that

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
He said Father took that picture and that the answer is in the video which I assume is the youtube video of FFEY-T's grave. So I will try to figure out what the part that is not so clear for you so you can figure out the cipher. Forest really needs the answer.


Also as Rich said, very awesome experience. The PM called me back too and he sounds like a very nice guy.

EDIT
Ok well I can't find it now and my nephew is about to wake up from his nap so will look for it this evening.

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 		Here's about all I know...
Just got my second call from the White Rabbit.

He really emphasized the importance of the Vigenere cypher, to read the 4 clues from the parchments. Told me to look for online tutorials... but I'm really hoping some of you guys can help me out with this!

The 12 days (tarot cards for Easter) - add up 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=78 important number. Fitting together the jigsaw pieces cut from the 12 cards will reveal the prize to be won.

The key answer will be found in solving the big puzzle. This will reveal the message he needs to receive from Father. He is scared and time is of the essence in our helping him. I promised him that we his friends will do our best so as not to let him down!

P.S. As we've found, the PM is extremely clever and is not about to make things too easy for us! However, he is doing this for our enjoyment and wants us to succeed. In the process we are learning a lot about history, literature, folklore, religion, and coding, as well as strategzing, networking, and even time management! Personally I believe it is well worth the effort, but it will take team work.

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 		I've sent you a pm Rich with my email so check your inbox.

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 		It's elementary
Since this is taking most of my day anyway, I'll share the research I've done since Forest sent out his email hint about "drugs" (chemicals/elements):
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Uuo ununoctium 118
Pm promethium 61
Ta tantalum 73
Au gold 79
Pt platinum 78
Mt meitnerium 109
No nobelium 102
Te tellurium 52
Ds darmstadtium 110
Hf hafnium 72
Sg seaborgium 106
Ra radium 88
Ir iridium 77

I'm assuming their numbers rather than the names are the significance intended - this could be to help us with the code grid... though of course I could be wrong, in which case we'll have to read up on each one's properties (sigh).

Edit:
No idea if this will be of any help, but for what it's worth...
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
78 - the significant number (12 days value added up) is the atomic weight of platinum
The grand total of all the above elements is 1125
Since these seem to have been chosen by groups, those totals are
(1)50's=52, (1)60's=61, (5)70's=379, (1)80's=88, (5)100's=545

See? I am great at research, but basically suck in application (code-wise) Confused
Now I'll quit hogging this forum and go see about some dinner (pork? lol)

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