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[VIDEO] Entry #35
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blahblah
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ALEX'S TONE IS THE EXACT SAME TONE IN ENTRY 26

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:09 am

Mariolee
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Thermal Boners wrote:

Mariolee wrote:

Thermal Boners wrote:

Mariolee wrote:

Thermal Boners wrote:

stuff i said

stuff you said

stuff i said

Stab him in the leg? He didn't realize there was a giant ass rock there but he needed something to subdue Tim. He had a knife for sure, so he decided to use that instead.

And to the Tim screaming thing, why is it so hard to believe that's Tim screaming. That sounds exactly like a guy screaming in pain.

He was already tied up with cord and there were two people in the room. He wasn't going anywhere. Alex was acting in malice, I think that was meant to be made clear. And I respectfully disagree with you and everyone who think that sounds like a person screaming in pain. For one, it doesn't have a start. Secondly, they are screaming the whole entry, but that noise fucks with the cameras mic. Just listen to it a few times thinking about it not being Tim screaming.

He couldn't risk Tim breaking through the cords, so he broke his leg. It doesn't have a start? I'm listening to it again, and it definitely has a start. It sounds like a male voice screaming.

You know what, I'll just post my whole theory again and then I'm going to sleep.

My Theory Chronology:

- Entry 34
- Jay leaves house, probably returns several more times.
- Jay somehow finds Alex at some point.
-Entry 35: Alex tells Jay to explore the house again, which Jay thinks is pointless since he knows there's nothing in there. Exasperated, he asks Alex what he's supposed to be seeing. Alex walks in and immediately sees Masky hiding. Jay and Alex subdue him, and Alex wants to stop Tim from following them by stabbing him in the leg or something. Jay assumes the worst and thinks Alex is trying to kill Tim. Alex gives up on JAy and simply picks up a giant rock and throws it onto Tim's leg. Tim screams in pain.
-Jay is obviously sad while driving away. Whether Alex is still with him is unknown.
- noentry: At some point, Tim heals his leg and comes back to kill Alex for revenge, knocks out Jay at the same time and straps camera onto him. Jay follows trail of blood (Alex's blood) and encounters The Operator.
- Jay loses all of his memories due to this encounter.
- Masky and/or the Operator places him in the hotel with Jessica and places the tapes in the safe.
- Entry 33: Masky returns and shows Jay the tapes. He also has a limp from the rock falling on his leg.
- He posts "Fragments" on Youtube to show that he has killed Alex.

Done. Smile

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:09 am

Salty
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Mariolee wrote:

Salty wrote:

It's possible that Alex has seen the entries, whether he's been keeping up all along of if he just found out. The dialogue just doesn't make sense for them to have come there together. If Alex obviously knew something was there and told Jay to go in, Jay wouldn't have thrown a fit after 15 seconds and yelled "THERE'S NOTHING HEERRRRE!!!!!" at him.

Yes, it's perfectly plausible. JAy is frustrated because he's been to the house (maybe multiple times in previous tapes) and found nothing there. Alex asks him to go again, and Jay is frustrated because he knows THERE'S NOTHING THERE. So he screams at Alex. Alex sees MAsky and points him out. Jay and Alex get him.

What is hard to believe about that?

It just doesn't make sense to me in that context. He wouldn't yell "There's nothing here" if Alex is so adamant that something is there. Now, it makes sense in the context that Jay has come all this way with no leads other than a return address and a "HELP". To me, it seems like Alex walks in on him not expecting him to be there. He speaks with the tone he does because he can't just yell "LOOK OUT HE'S IN THE CLOSET!" and give it away. He's got to play it cool.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:10 am

mellodragon
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Thermal Boners wrote:

I personally think that Alex knew Masky and Jay would be there but Jay didn't know Alex would be there, so Alex said Jay to get his attention and shush him, because Jay didn't know what would be there, but Alex would.

THIS. This seems more like it... Like Jay was about to ask where the hell Alex came from and what he was doing there, and Alex shushed him.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:10 am

MagicNein
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blahblah wrote:

ALEX'S TONE IS THE EXACT SAME TONE IN ENTRY 26

Didn't you know? He gained like 20 levels in badass while he was MIA.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:10 am

MorbidPuppies
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Thermal Boners wrote:

Indextic wrote:

Rawkz0rz wrote:

Okay, upon rewatching, the way Alex addresses J is not questioning. It's a statement, he's trying to get his attention so he can tell him to look out. They are familiar with each other, and definitely came there together.

Pay attention to this please

The two ways people are talking about this are a) this was a chance meeting, hence Alex saying Jay with "a questioning tone" or b) Alex and Jay came here together.

I personally think that Alex knew Masky and Jay would be there but Jay didn't know Alex would be there, so Alex said Jay to get his attention and shush him, because Jay didn't know what would be there, but Alex would.

Exactly, hence why J is talking to himself, hes probably re-investigating after the previous entry, and was wondering why someone would send him there, and then, he was given his answer.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:11 am

Mariolee
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cemetrygates wrote:

Radiolab Hope wrote:

It's just narrative convenience: showing Jay and Alex in the car on the way there having a "but there's nothing there!" - "Bullshit. Tim will be there wearing a mask." conversation wouldn't have made for much excitement.

I mean if you want to talk about this narratively most of the narrative up until J started worrying mostly about escaping the Operator was about finding Alex. It's pretty silly that we would not see the MOMENT he first encounters Alex. Possible, but strange storytelling.

If J went there with Alex or found him before this then I don't think it's narrative convenience, there's a reason we don't know. Someone or some-slendy-thing may have tampered with the tapes.

Why is it silly that we wouldn't see the moment he sees alex. Isn't it more satisfying and shocking to find out that JAy has ALREADY found Alex? Ok, now I'm going to sleep.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:11 am

MorbidPuppies
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mellodragon wrote:

Thermal Boners wrote:

THIS. This seems more like it... Like Jay was about to ask where the hell Alex came from and what he was doing there, and Alex shushed him.

THIS, the shush says it all.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:11 am

shoeler
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my biggest issue with them coming together is that there's no reason for alex to hang back for the first minute of the video. it doesn't make sense for the two of them to drive over to the house, then alex say "yeah, we're about to walk into the dangerous house... actually. go ahead. i'll catch up with you in a second."

though i feel like this is something that will be argued until we're all blue in the face. until a future entry clears it up.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:12 am

Spritey
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Rawkz0rz wrote:

No, he's visibly surprised to see Jay. There's a moment of silence because they're both in shock, but they quickly adjust because Alex knows Tim is hiding in there.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:12 am

blahblah
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Mariolee wrote:

Thermal Boners wrote:

Mariolee wrote:

Thermal Boners wrote:

Mariolee wrote:

Thermal Boners wrote:

stuff i said

stuff you said

stuff i said

We still have a major plothole of how Jessica is met and where she is taken after #33. I dont think anyone has an idea on how she will fit in.

Also, I get the feeling this lack of info is mainly based from Alex, thats why he always seems so BA and in control.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:13 am

Indextic
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shoeler wrote:

I just kind of figured Alex would be standing in the doorway or something. The camera never points there until he speaks, so he could have been right there behind Jay the whole time. I just think Jay is talking to Alex the whole time. It's too loud to be talking to himself.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:13 am

Oro Invictus
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shoeler wrote:

though i feel like this is something that will be argued until we're all blue in the face. until a future entry clears it up.

That's pretty much everything in the MH forums.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:13 am

Mariolee
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Salty wrote:

Mariolee wrote:

Salty wrote:

I could see how that would work. But I do believe he's talking to Alex in the same way that in this scenario: Let's say you've lost your keys. You've check the living room ten times. You ask your wife "Where the hell are the keys?!" She says, "In the living room."
You love her, you trust her, but right now you're mad and think the bitch is crazy. So you say, "WHERE IS IT?!" She points to the keys sitting on top of the TV.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:14 am

Rawkz0rz
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Can anyone tell what is being whispered at around 1:08? I believe it's Alex, but I can't quite tell what it is he's saying.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:15 am

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