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Rawkz0rz
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ocd_reality wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Thoughts:
- I'm guessing if you took the mask off now... it wouldn't be the handsome Tim we remember. What with all the broken bone and stuff.
- Looking forward to a TTA response to this one. Might reveal a little something about the Tim/TTA relationship. At the very least, if it's called "owie owie owie alex is so mean Sad" it'll point to Tim being TTA and if it says "Ha ha ha ha, look at that sucker squirm, you should have let Alex pop his skull with that rock when you had the chance" it'll point to Tim not being TTA...
- If Tim is TTA, it might explain the imagery in Fragments. "Alex thought he could smash my head to bits with a rock. It didn't go so well for him."
- There was most definitely blood on that knife.



It's really not clear where the blood came from in the footage. It seems obvious it would come from Masky, but if Alex had been the one to stab Masky why would he throw it away only to ask Jay to give it back? I personally believe Masky had a knife, managed to get Alex with it, but was disarmed. Not sure how many people agree with me there.


Timasky had a knife- it's not a question: http://i56.tinypic.com/35c54k8.png

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red223 wrote:
Has anyone isolated this "Operator Hum"? Sorry if I'm a slowpoke, I just got myself re-interested in this series.


Yeah, a few people have brought it up, its being debated if its Slendy related or if it caused by having 3 cases of Slendy sickness around at once.

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ocd_reality wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Thoughts:
- I'm guessing if you took the mask off now... it wouldn't be the handsome Tim we remember. What with all the broken bone and stuff.
- Looking forward to a TTA response to this one. Might reveal a little something about the Tim/TTA relationship. At the very least, if it's called "owie owie owie alex is so mean :(" it'll point to Tim being TTA and if it says "Ha ha ha ha, look at that sucker squirm, you should have let Alex pop his skull with that rock when you had the chance" it'll point to Tim not being TTA...
- If Tim is TTA, it might explain the imagery in Fragments. "Alex thought he could smash my head to bits with a rock. It didn't go so well for him."
- There was most definitely blood on that knife.



It's really not clear where the blood came from in the footage. It seems obvious it would come from Masky, but if Alex had been the one to stab Masky why would he throw it away only to ask Jay to give it back? I personally believe Masky had a knife, managed to get Alex with it, but was disarmed. Not sure how many people agree with me there.


That's pretty much it. When Timasky got to Alex, though we couldn't see anything, Alex yelled out, and there's apparently a wound on his arm after that, so we can safely assume that Timasky stabbed Alex.

edit: Someone beat me to it. :'D

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Rawkz0rz wrote:
ocd_reality wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Thoughts:
- I'm guessing if you took the mask off now... it wouldn't be the handsome Tim we remember. What with all the broken bone and stuff.
- Looking forward to a TTA response to this one. Might reveal a little something about the Tim/TTA relationship. At the very least, if it's called "owie owie owie alex is so mean Sad" it'll point to Tim being TTA and if it says "Ha ha ha ha, look at that sucker squirm, you should have let Alex pop his skull with that rock when you had the chance" it'll point to Tim not being TTA...
- If Tim is TTA, it might explain the imagery in Fragments. "Alex thought he could smash my head to bits with a rock. It didn't go so well for him."
- There was most definitely blood on that knife.



It's really not clear where the blood came from in the footage. It seems obvious it would come from Masky, but if Alex had been the one to stab Masky why would he throw it away only to ask Jay to give it back? I personally believe Masky had a knife, managed to get Alex with it, but was disarmed. Not sure how many people agree with me there.


Timasky had a knife- it's not a question: http://i56.tinypic.com/35c54k8.png


Some reason Timasky doesn't have his jacket all the way done up.

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D.amnnesia88 wrote:
Okay first post in a forum ever. Been following MH since early december, and finally gave in and joined your ranks. Some folks have already beaten me to the "alex has blood on his arm at 1:23" bit (which no one has refuted yet I might add), but something else I noticed is that at 0:52 there appears to be a green folder (???) on the shelves that wasn't in the previous entry.

As to whether this entry includes the first meeting of Jay and alex (since Jay started posting the entries) or not, we've got nothing conclusive.


Also, on the whole theory of Alex killed by tim and jay following the blood to the tunnel in entry 29:
If the message behind "Fragments" is alex must die (with alex's face and theblinking lights translating into "must die), and If TTA=Tim, then Tim has not killed alex...at least not of what was shown in "noentry"...this doesn't mean that Alex didn't get offed by slendy (or one of the speculated "other maskies") in "noentry"...I'm simply stating that it's strange that if TTA=Tim, and he says that Alex "must die"...than he's a little late (and out of the loop) if alex is already dead as of "noentry" because it was posted after entry 35 was made.

Also,for all those that belive that Tim is dead due to crushedskullism due to alex: I find it hard to believe that a man is capable of screaming after his head is smashed open with a rock. It's probable that the "scream" we heard, is probably made by tim after alex opened up a can of droprock. Dead men can't scream...But for all we know after the camera dropped down and to the right (at the moment of impact) slendy could have strolled in and brutally slaughtered everyone except Jay...

Also someone earlier mentioned that the masky in entry 33 had longer hair than tim, this can be seen at 1:59 of entry 33...but tim could probably grow his hair out...sooo it's still inconclusive...just wanted to show you guy's the hair length difference. It appears the hair goes unerneath the strap of the mask...but can't tell for sure...Inconclusive inconclusive inconclusive

so there's my first post ever for you guys! Slenderman made me finally pop that cherry! Sorry it's so long!


Welcome aboard, no need to apologize for length! We kind of enjoy enthusiasm around these parts. I agree (or at least use the evidence you mentioned to support) that Timasky is the same Masky from 33. Especially with the limp, which could have been a consequence of the angry rock Alex was wielding. I know people have already mentioned that the healing times don't match up with the theorizes timestamps of the video, but take it from somebody with quite the experience with leg injuries that even after its healed, the instinct to favor one leg is very, very strong. Masky's limp could be psychosomatic, for all we know.

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GhosteM wrote:
Is it possible that this could be the house where Brian (I think that was him, the camera guy when Jay looks at the tapes of them in a basement) disappears or gets eaten? Maybe this house holds some significants.



entry 22? Alex can be heard saying "seth" at 5:08...kinda leads me to believe that it was seth that got taken out...but now that I think about it...the fact that alex calls out Seth doesn't mean its necessarily seth holding the camera that caught the footage that we know as entry 22... Thanks for pointing that out!


Who'da'thunk'it? Another loose end in MH?? OMFG NO WAAAYY!!!

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shadowstalker wrote:
TL;DR: J has something to hide, and he's not letting us see it. TTA is definitely gonna have something to say about this.


I would hope that whomever is manning the totheark channel sheds light on the missing clip.

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shadowstalker wrote:
i can't lurk anymore, I've been with this from the beginning but this entry made me need to jump in.

It was mentioned somewhere much earlier that TTA insinuated that J couldn't be trusted. I think we have to realize that yes, while J is reviewing these videos and posting them, he is also most likely editing them.

The reason I bring this up is because even with the Slendy static and shit, that seems like an extremely odd transition, from the house to J driving. Think about it logistically. Even if Slendy fucked with the camera, J must have turned it on while he was driving to videotape himself, most likely some form of monologue (or discussion, who knows someone else might be in the car). We've seen the camera and footage be corrupted, but the camera has never turned on by itself. To be fair, I feel like he's hiding something. J has no memory of those months, and while reviewing it, he definitely said or did something that either endangers him, someone, or his overall goal. Even though I'm rooting for him, there still has never been anything solid for me to fully trust him as a protagonist.

TL;DR: J has something to hide, and he's not letting us see it. TTA is definitely gonna have something to say about this.


Now that I think of it, I really like this theory. It gets across that Jay is still unreliable, even though he wouldn't want us to think he is. And it does make sense, considering there's no way the video would just cut to there. The tape couldn't do that, it would have at least captured him turning it on. On that note, wouldn't it have to have a black screen/frozen image between the time Jay turned off the camera at the house, and when he turned it on while driving?

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ocd_reality wrote:
D.amnnesia88 wrote:
Okay first post in a forum ever. Been following MH since early december, and finally gave in and joined your ranks. Some folks have already beaten me to the "alex has blood on his arm at 1:23" bit (which no one has refuted yet I might add), but something else I noticed is that at 0:52 there appears to be a green folder (???) on the shelves that wasn't in the previous entry.

As to whether this entry includes the first meeting of Jay and alex (since Jay started posting the entries) or not, we've got nothing conclusive.


Also, on the whole theory of Alex killed by tim and jay following the blood to the tunnel in entry 29:
If the message behind "Fragments" is alex must die (with alex's face and theblinking lights translating into "must die), and If TTA=Tim, then Tim has not killed alex...at least not of what was shown in "noentry"...this doesn't mean that Alex didn't get offed by slendy (or one of the speculated "other maskies") in "noentry"...I'm simply stating that it's strange that if TTA=Tim, and he says that Alex "must die"...than he's a little late (and out of the loop) if alex is already dead as of "noentry" because it was posted after entry 35 was made.

Also,for all those that belive that Tim is dead due to crushedskullism due to alex: I find it hard to believe that a man is capable of screaming after his head is smashed open with a rock. It's probable that the "scream" we heard, is probably made by tim after alex opened up a can of droprock. Dead men can't scream...But for all we know after the camera dropped down and to the right (at the moment of impact) slendy could have strolled in and brutally slaughtered everyone except Jay...

Also someone earlier mentioned that the masky in entry 33 had longer hair than tim, this can be seen at 1:59 of entry 33...but tim could probably grow his hair out...sooo it's still inconclusive...just wanted to show you guy's the hair length difference. It appears the hair goes unerneath the strap of the mask...but can't tell for sure...Inconclusive inconclusive inconclusive

so there's my first post ever for you guys! Slenderman made me finally pop that cherry! Sorry it's so long!


Welcome aboard, no need to apologize for length! We kind of enjoy enthusiasm around these parts. I agree (or at least use the evidence you mentioned to support) that Timasky is the same Masky from 33. Especially with the limp, which could have been a consequence of the angry rock Alex was wielding. I know people have already mentioned that the healing times don't match up with the theorizes timestamps of the video, but take it from somebody with quite the experience with leg injuries that even after its healed, the instinct to favor one leg is very, very strong. Masky's limp could be psychosomatic, for all we know.


Absolutely true! Also, we really can't tell where on his leg he was hit, or how bad the injury even was! For all we know Tim's bone could have healed bad, and now he's stuck walking with a limp for the rest of his life! I don't know if someone's stated that already, but I'll throw it out there anyways...

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 		Just want to point out a few things.
1. Just before Alex went ape shit on Tim, Masky managed to turn himself around. This could mean that Alex only got his leg.

2. We don't know how hard Tim had been hit with the rock. If it was a simple fracture, he wouldn't have that limp, but if Alex had hit him hard enough with the (heavy) rock, there could have been some serious damage, and without proper mdical attention, it could have healed weird,which could cause a limp.

3. I'm pretty sure that I played TF2 with Troy earlier today. Sounded exactly like him Smile

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MorbidPuppies wrote:
Rawkz0rz wrote:
ocd_reality wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Thoughts:
- I'm guessing if you took the mask off now... it wouldn't be the handsome Tim we remember. What with all the broken bone and stuff.
- Looking forward to a TTA response to this one. Might reveal a little something about the Tim/TTA relationship. At the very least, if it's called "owie owie owie alex is so mean Sad" it'll point to Tim being TTA and if it says "Ha ha ha ha, look at that sucker squirm, you should have let Alex pop his skull with that rock when you had the chance" it'll point to Tim not being TTA...
- If Tim is TTA, it might explain the imagery in Fragments. "Alex thought he could smash my head to bits with a rock. It didn't go so well for him."
- There was most definitely blood on that knife.



It's really not clear where the blood came from in the footage. It seems obvious it would come from Masky, but if Alex had been the one to stab Masky why would he throw it away only to ask Jay to give it back? I personally believe Masky had a knife, managed to get Alex with it, but was disarmed. Not sure how many people agree with me there.


Timasky had a knife- it's not a question: http://i56.tinypic.com/35c54k8.png


Some reason Timasky doesn't have his jacket all the way done up.


I guess his jacket means the coldness from the previous entries is a thing with him?

Also, I just realized, OOG, that Tim ran at people with a real knife. Unless it wasn't. That's kinda dangerous.

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MorbidPuppies wrote:
shadowstalker wrote:
TL;DR: J has something to hide, and he's not letting us see it. TTA is definitely gonna have something to say about this.


I would hope that whomever is manning the totheark channel sheds light on the missing clip.


In the missing clip, Jay gets out his gun and shoots everyone. And then brings them back to life. His sad face while driving is him thinking, "Why did I bring them back to life. :/"

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theonewhoquestions wrote:
MorbidPuppies wrote:
Rawkz0rz wrote:
ocd_reality wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Thoughts:
- I'm guessing if you took the mask off now... it wouldn't be the handsome Tim we remember. What with all the broken bone and stuff.
- Looking forward to a TTA response to this one. Might reveal a little something about the Tim/TTA relationship. At the very least, if it's called "owie owie owie alex is so mean Sad" it'll point to Tim being TTA and if it says "Ha ha ha ha, look at that sucker squirm, you should have let Alex pop his skull with that rock when you had the chance" it'll point to Tim not being TTA...
- If Tim is TTA, it might explain the imagery in Fragments. "Alex thought he could smash my head to bits with a rock. It didn't go so well for him."
- There was most definitely blood on that knife.



It's really not clear where the blood came from in the footage. It seems obvious it would come from Masky, but if Alex had been the one to stab Masky why would he throw it away only to ask Jay to give it back? I personally believe Masky had a knife, managed to get Alex with it, but was disarmed. Not sure how many people agree with me there.


Timasky had a knife- it's not a question: http://i56.tinypic.com/35c54k8.png


Some reason Timasky doesn't have his jacket all the way done up.


I guess his jacket means the coldness from the previous entries is a thing with him?

Also, I just realized, OOG, that Tim ran at people with a real knife. Unless it wasn't. That's kinda dangerous.


OOG, they probably talked about that and did multiple takes, and it would also explain why J just seems to sidestep him, all about his safety.

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 		Wow, what a fucking entry, my friends.

This is what I personally interpreted from the footage:

- Jay, in his period of memory loss, actually met up with Alex. Who found who is unknown, but I feel like they went to this house together (rather than Alex's appearance being a surprise to Jay). Jay seems legitimately pissed, and is talking rather intensely. I feel like he was talking with the full knowledge of Alex's presence outside the house, and that they both came there for a specific reason.

- Masky, of course, was revealed to be Tim officially. However, this combined with the fact that Jessica's presence in the series directly coincided with totheark's disappearance makes me even more firmly believe that TTA is not Masky/Tim at all. I still think it's Jessica. I could be wrong, but I really feel like Jessica has been acting on her own this entire time. Whether or not she was aware she was doing it is still a mystery as well, but I just can't bring myself to believe that Tim is totheark.

- More distortion, but I can't decide if it's all from Tim, or if there is more that we cannot see.

- It would seem that Tim avoided attacking Jay and went straight for Alex, making me feel like he views Alex as more of a threat. Also, judging by Alex's extreme prejudice toward him and initial desire to use the knife on him, there might be bigger issues than Jay is aware of that are afoot.

- That house looks just like a house that appears in a picture on the spine of the book "House of Leaves", which I have admittedly not read but looked over. The book, in my opinion, at least partially inspired MH, namely the graphical style and layout of the TTA videos. There is a lot of very bizarre and terrifying typography in different directions, including some pages with creative use of things like "XXXXXXXXXXXXX" repeated in a very totheark manner. I am planning on picking it up sometime soon.

- Tim apparently still takes the time to shave and tend to his chops despite his madness. Razz

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Indextic wrote:
shadowstalker wrote:
i can't lurk anymore, I've been with this from the beginning but this entry made me need to jump in.

It was mentioned somewhere much earlier that TTA insinuated that J couldn't be trusted. I think we have to realize that yes, while J is reviewing these videos and posting them, he is also most likely editing them.

The reason I bring this up is because even with the Slendy static and shit, that seems like an extremely odd transition, from the house to J driving. Think about it logistically. Even if Slendy fucked with the camera, J must have turned it on while he was driving to videotape himself, most likely some form of monologue (or discussion, who knows someone else might be in the car). We've seen the camera and footage be corrupted, but the camera has never turned on by itself. To be fair, I feel like he's hiding something. J has no memory of those months, and while reviewing it, he definitely said or did something that either endangers him, someone, or his overall goal. Even though I'm rooting for him, there still has never been anything solid for me to fully trust him as a protagonist.

TL;DR: J has something to hide, and he's not letting us see it. TTA is definitely gonna have something to say about this.


Now that I think of it, I really like this theory. It gets across that Jay is still unreliable, even though he wouldn't want us to think he is. And it does make sense, considering there's no way the video would just cut to there. The tape couldn't do that, it would have at least captured him turning it on. On that note, wouldn't it have to have a black screen/frozen image between the time Jay turned off the camera at the house, and when he turned it on while driving?


Unless, it DID just cut to there. Maybe the camera in Alex's house wasn't planted, maybe he just figured it was broken and tossed it away. Remember the entry where Jay's camera dies? Maybe it died, Jay didn't realize this, and put it on his dashboard like normal as he drove away, then it started recording again. This is actually kind of far-fetched, but I kinda think it's a fun theory.

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