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[VIDEO] Entry #35
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Pixelponny
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Oro Invictus wrote:
My question is, if Alex and J were working together and the house was previously involved, what would Alex want J to 'see'?


Yeah I thought about that. That 'detail' leads a lot of more questions for me. So, here I go!

Despite some of your comments, I think Jay seemed to be frustrated. If Alex and Jay worked together on this and Alex hinted him to search more carefully, then Jay didn't trust Alex very well. Looks like Alex was too concerned about what was really in that building and Jay was like "this is a cold lead and you are acting so weird about it". This only explains Jay's frustration.

I don't think Jay was alone when he arrived there. I mean, how would Alex know that address? It was the return address of the package Jay recieved.

Q1: How did Jay contact Alex and how did they reunite? I think Jay didn't know where he lived.

Q2: How did Alex know someone was in there?

And my main point is:

Q3: Why was Alex so mad about Masky? Did he ever see him before?

Masky wasn't around when Alex was stalked by the Operator. It was just Tim, maybe acting a little weird (pills, coughs, etc).

Come on people! Masky attacked Jay then he broke into his house, messed up with his head, his place, or maybe even his computer (big mistake!). But we never saw Jay trying to hurt/disable him. Jay only tried to defend himself against him. What's Alex's problem with Masky? Jay removed his mask, Alex saw he was Tim, the guy from his failed movie project. But he never hesitated to hurt him. That would be Jay, after everything Masky did to him. It doesn't make sense!

Another questionable thing is, Alex says "he won't be following us". So Entry #35 doesn't take place just after Entry #34. Jay initially searched the house, contacted Alex, they began investigating together, Masky started stalking them. During that period, Alex got very angry about Masky, also he managed to find out something Jay couldn't. So I think at one point they got seperated. Alex discovered Masky hides in that building, called Jay and led him to there...

Also why was there so much "emphasis" on the knife? There was distortion before Jay picked it up right?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:43 am
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Undertheark
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For some reason I like and don't like, it seems like its becoming more focused on death and killing rather than Slenderman and being helpless. Personally I mostly liked it.
A rock to the face leaves people damaged beyond any extent almost certainly breaking a nose maybe killing. I'm going for in a critical state of no return.
Also, why was Alex there and how did he know about Masky; we figured that Slendy was an Alex only occurance and Masky Jay only.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:14 am
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Takub
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If Alex did cut a deal to get out of this mess (as theorised earlier), that might explain why he was so aggressive towards Masky - besides the knife attack - he thought he was out and here (perhaps) comes Masky dragging him back in.
I don't personally think this is what happened but hey it's possible
$0.02

8bitFilk wrote:
Aww, come ON people!! I've only just found the new entry and the discussion's already on 22 pages?! I have a life too! I don't have time to read all this! Bang Head
Can someone give me the gist of the discussion so far?

In all seriousness though, this makes up for the initial slow pace this season! This is the most interesting and exciting addition to the story I've seen since... possibly since the start!


In case I'm not too late, and correct me if I'm wrong (I've been up for quite a while now);

the discussion has mainly been OMG, AWESOME;
now we know Tim is Masky, are there other Maskies?,
did Alex kill Tim or just break his leg, maybe the Operator intervened,
why did Alex and Jay not enter the house together, is this the "first" time they've met,
when did #35 take place, whose house is this,
why does the tape suddenly cut to Jay driving (and did he perhaps tape the house-part over an earlier tape of himself driving),
why did Jay tape it at all when he's been there before (#34 ?) and is apparently convinced that there is nothing to be found there

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:17 am
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TheCrimsonKnight
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Finally got to seeing this. I´m speechless.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:28 am
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Sofos
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Is anyone else realizing that we are missing HUGE chunks of time in these videos?

Okay, firstly, I'm posing this under the presumption that Alex had traveled to the house with Jay, and was simply looking around outside until he came in the door. When Jay talks, he's not talking to the camera (the only talking he's ever done besides simply calling out "Hello" or something like that is directly to the camera, when he gives up, and while driving at the beginning of #34. But here, he talks out loud, as if someone is there. The walls are thin, I imagine he would have expected Alex to hear him. Alex brought him there, obviously expecting to find something. He was compelled.

In any case, I'm pretty sure that Alex and Jay had met up prior to this entry. For how long, I don't know, but it's pretty clear that there are important chunks missing from the footage we've been shown. This brings up the question: where is all the missing footage? Should we assume Masky has it? Or that TTA has it?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:34 am
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blue5213
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Holy shit holy shit holy shit shit just got REAL

Don't know why there's any discussion about Jay and Alex meeting "off-camera" or anything. It's quite obvious that A) Alex is a little surprised to see Jay there, B) Jay is shocked to see Alex, C) Alex puts his finger to his mouth in a "be quiet" motion before pointing past Jay, indicating Masky is there. There's no reason to believe that this isn't the first time they've seen each other since Alex gave Jay the original tapes. This is clearly meant to show Jay finding Alex again and, well, not exactly liking what he sees.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:54 am
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RoundWounds
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Hey guys,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Just wanted to point out (I'm sure it already has) that the knife already had blood on it when the camera focused on it.

Edit: Also, a number of you seem to be stuck on the fact that Tim is still alive JUST because we've seen masky recently. Anyone could've taken his place, even Alex (could've snapped after this incident and took on the role of the exact thing he was trying to kill).

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:07 am
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Twitch
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Hmm
Great entry

My theory is that Tim is definitely alive. I'm pretty sure Alex just injured him, considering Tim wouldn't really be able to scream with a crushed skull. Not to mention he did say "He's not going to follow us anymore." leading me to believe it was his leg. That would explain the limp from the earlier entry. I also believe that Alex could be TTA. Making the "Fragments" response a message to Tim. I'm guessing that Alex has been trying to tell him something for a while, but Jay hasn't quite got it yet.

Jay definitely was being informed by something in the missing 7 months, but what? I have a feeling he figured it all out, and it led him to this house. He should definitely find that tunnel from the no entry. The blood probably means the new house is nearby.

Doesn't mean much but, I believe this is Alex and Jay's first reunion.

Well that's my opinion, sorry didn't have a time to read through the post, if this has been said I'm sorry.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Takub wrote:
the discussion has mainly been OMG, AWESOME;
now we know Tim is Masky, are there other Maskies?,
did Alex kill Tim or just break his leg, maybe the Operator intervened,
why did Alex and Jay not enter the house together, is this the "first" time they've met,
when did #35 take place, whose house is this,
why does the tape suddenly cut to Jay driving (and did he perhaps tape the house-part over an earlier tape of himself driving),
why did Jay tape it at all when he's been there before (#34 ?) and is apparently convinced that there is nothing to be found there

A good summary.

One point it doesn't mention - because we haven't really talked about it - but which I think is kind of a big deal is that there's a conspicuous green folder sitting on one of the shelves, which wasn't there in entry 34. That's got to have something interesting inside it.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:24 am
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Wolfloner
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Wow, just spent my morning reading through this thread.

And no one mentioned something that kind of bothered me. I'm sure it's just a little thing, but it feels odd to me.

At the start of the video, J lifts up that board on the floor, for no apparent reason. I know it's probably just "looking around the house" stuff, but in a production like this (low budget, very short entries, ect), I have a hard time thinking that anything we're shown happened for no reason.

Also, I loved this entry. yay. Smile I had a nice jump-scare with Tim showing up. ^^;

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KatoK
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Finally managed to join, 'sup? Tried a few months ago, unfiction was being screwy. Lurking since roughly April, first time posting.

"You are broken."
"You can not be fixed."
I think this is a clear reference to his leg Laughing

I'm gonna hop on the bandwagon saying Alex broke his leg, when you can't walk properly, you normally try to avoid walking as much as possible. It isn't easy to exercise with a broken knee, especially when you're running around doing the work of an eldritch abomination for a living. I think putting on a few pounds after being out of commission is reasonable.

Someone else mentioned the lack of Brian- That really irks me. I personally believe TiMasky and Brian are TTA. Now not so sure. Anyone have any ideas why Tim was just grunting? I'm starting to think that he's a mindless proxy now. But, then, how exactly could he put together a video afterwards? Razz

Sorry- I'm ranting all my thoughts out about this entire thread here. The Operator WAS around in Entry 19, I think it's reasonable to say the distortion is caused by an off-screen Operator.

Criticisms?

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theonewhoquestions
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Wolfloner wrote:

And no one mentioned something that kind of bothered me. I'm sure it's just a little thing, but it feels odd to me.

At the start of the video, J lifts up that board on the floor, for no apparent reason. I know it's probably just "looking around the house" stuff, but in a production like this (low budget, very short entries, ect), I have a hard time thinking that anything we're shown happened for no reason.


I was going to bring it up in my bit about him being frustrated, and just looking wherever angrily, since immediately after that he kicks a pipe across the room, but decided, eh.

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NoMoreGaems
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Wow, fast thread.

I'm gonna have to agree with the "They just now met" theory, Jay is clearly surprised to see Alex and vice versa. These theories that they met before that are clearly grasping at straws. Now, here's something I know hasn't been pointed out, because unlike other people I actually read the thread:

The last time we saw Alex on camera, the Operator appeared a few seconds later. And now, we see Alex on camera again, and he doesn't seem to thrilled about that, and is definitely in a rush afterwards. And then we start getting distortion and visual tearing...

My theory of 35: Jay's been recording over tapes of himself driving if nothing interesting happens on said tapes, because who needs four hours of driving footage when there's exploration to be had? So he goes back to the shack from 34 and wanders about, angrily cursing the mysterious sender of #26 and wondering if he'll ever get any answers. Meanwhile, Mr. Kralie just happened to be outside because he was waiting or he had followed Tim there, and pops in to surprise his former BFF.
"Jay?"
Jay spins around, and is clearly about to go "Wha-- Alex?! What are you doing here! What's going on!?" or something, when Alex shushes him and points to the source of a noise that came from behind Jay. Jay turns around slowly and leans through the door to reveal the masked man!
A tussle ensues. Tim stabs Alex in the arm, but Alex and Jay manage to disarm him and throw him to the floor. Alex asks Jay's help subduing him and, in a fit of rage, is ready to kill him. Jay refuses and Alex tries to justify his actions with "He's not gonna follow us" while picking up a rock. Jay rushes to stop him, and Tim manages to bring his leg up to keep Alex from smashing his face in. The Operator shows up suddenly, heralded by audio distortion and visual tearing, and Alex drops the rock to escape, smashing Tim's kneecap in the process. The camera dies, and thus the footage on the tape goes back to Jay driving.
Possibly, Alex and Jay are still together in the past, and the next video might show evidence of that, but I doubt it will show Alex himself because he's a Slendermagnet now, just being on camera is enough to summon the Operator.

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Mariolee
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The fact of the matter is we saw Tim in Entry 33. With a limp. We got screencaps of his sideburns, and he looks to be the exact same build. Occam's razor would say Tim survived the rock with a broken knee, and has come back.

Also, to people saying that Tim's face was hit by the rock and is heavily disfigured, I say this. A guy throws a giant heavy ass rock with all his might at someone's vulnerable face. Do you think he survives long enough to belch out a scream?

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Jaytenthousand
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Just watched the entry. Decided I didn't want to read all 23 pages, so I just read the first 4 to get the initial theories.

I don't think Tim just brushed by Jay to get to Alex, I think Tim realized that there were two people there, and the likelihood of beating up two people at once is very slim. Fighting isn't like a movie, where you can fight a guy while his friend waits around patiently for a one on one. I'd cut my losses and try and get them alone, if I was a mysterious malicious masked menace.

As for the bloody knife, I suspect it was jay that got cut by Masky. It's hard to see, since the blade is facing the camera, but judging by that, and the manner that Tim was holding his fist when he came out of the room, he was holding the knife at exactly 1:09. I suspect he cut Jay as he was passing by, but was stopped by Alex, and was overpowered during the off camera scuffle.

Also, I didn't really notice any limp in #33, after re-watching it.

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