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[VIDEO] Entry #35
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Mariolee
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NoMoreGaems wrote:
Wow, fast thread.

I'm gonna have to agree with the "They just now met" theory, Jay is clearly surprised to see Alex and vice versa. These theories that they met before that are clearly grasping at straws. Now, here's something I know hasn't been pointed out, because unlike other people I actually read the thread:

The last time we saw Alex on camera, the Operator appeared a few seconds later. And now, we see Alex on camera again, and he doesn't seem to thrilled about that, and is definitely in a rush afterwards. And then we start getting distortion and visual tearing...

My theory of 35: Jay's been recording over tapes of himself driving if nothing interesting happens on said tapes, because who needs four hours of driving footage when there's exploration to be had? So he goes back to the shack from 34 and wanders about, angrily cursing the mysterious sender of #26 and wondering if he'll ever get any answers. Meanwhile, Mr. Kralie just happened to be outside because he was waiting or he had followed Tim there, and pops in to surprise his former BFF.
"Jay?"
Jay spins around, and is clearly about to go "Wha-- Alex?! What are you doing here! What's going on!?" or something, when Alex shushes him and points to the source of a noise that came from behind Jay. Jay turns around slowly and leans through the door to reveal the masked man!
A tussle ensues. Tim stabs Alex in the arm, but Alex and Jay manage to disarm him and throw him to the floor. Alex asks Jay's help subduing him and, in a fit of rage, is ready to kill him. Jay refuses and Alex tries to justify his actions with "He's not gonna follow us" while picking up a rock. Jay rushes to stop him, and Tim manages to bring his leg up to keep Alex from smashing his face in. The Operator shows up suddenly, heralded by audio distortion and visual tearing, and Alex drops the rock to escape, smashing Tim's kneecap in the process. The camera dies, and thus the footage on the tape goes back to Jay driving.
Possibly, Alex and Jay are still together in the past, and the next video might show evidence of that, but I doubt it will show Alex himself because he's a Slendermagnet now, just being on camera is enough to summon the Operator.


The thing is, I don't think it entirely matters. Alex meeting Jay before or at the moment of Entry 35 has evidence and theories for both sides, but in the end it doesn't matter. What matters is what Alex has been doing and what happened to Tim. We've got the latter half down sort of, with Tim obviously surviving but what has he been doing with that injured leg. And did he kill Alex in noentry, and where the heck is The Operator.

So many questions, but tune in for the next thrilling episode of.....DRAGON BALL Z.

Erm, Marble Hornets.

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KeithXK
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Don't have time to read the 22 pages at the moment.

But here it is, in my view.

I noticed in 33 that Masky had a different build from before. Definitely different hair, different build.

I'm not saying that Alex killed Tim or that Tim is dead at all.

But Tim ISN'T Masky anymore. He was, now he isn't.

I now believe that Masky is an emissary of Slendy, and Tim is no longer suitable, so the mantle was passed to someone else. Think of Galactus and his heralds.

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Mariolee
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Jaytenthousand wrote:
Just watched the entry. Decided I didn't want to read all 23 pages, so I just read the first 4 to get the initial theories.

I don't think Tim just brushed by Jay to get to Alex, I think Tim realized that there were two people there, and the likelihood of beating up two people at once is very slim. Fighting isn't like a movie, where you can fight a guy while his friend waits around patiently for a one on one. I'd cut my losses and try and get them alone, if I was a mysterious malicious masked menace.

As for the bloody knife, I suspect it was jay that got cut by Masky. It's hard to see, since the blade is facing the camera, but judging by that, and the manner that Tim was holding his fist when he came out of the room, he was holding the knife at exactly 1:09. I suspect he cut Jay as he was passing by, but was stopped by Alex, and was overpowered during the off camera scuffle.

Also, I didn't really notice any limp in #33, after re-watching it.


It's there, you can see it as Tim chases after Jay in the hallway and uses the wall to support himself.

Also, is the whole -settingupentry-awesomeentry-boringsettingupentry-awesome entry- going to be a regular thing now. I''d hate for Marble Hornets to become predictable.

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MistrPibb
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My theory is that "he's not going to follow us" refers to Tim demanding to be "lead to the ark".

I'm also 99 percent sure that Tim was injured, but recovered.
A new ToTheArk wouldn't take Tim's jacket.

That's just plain creepy.

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Phenom wrote:
As a former victim getting my leg broken myself, 7 seven monthes is more then enought to heal. But what Alex gave to Tim will probably give him a small limp forever.


I can't wait for confrontion, 20 dollors says Tim won't rememeber a thing.


Also,why was there blood on that knife?


I have not read past this post. I am sorry in advance... Slenderman wants to collect on that...You owe him Cool $20...

On a real note. Wow Wake up see this...imo Alex and Jay came together or arranged to meet. Alex either arrived early or late and catches sight or hears our limpy leg friend. He comes in and catches Jay's attention just before he unknowingly walked into his own knife via masky and ways Jay about him.

After this point just observations, and random thoughts of what things could be.

The green folder could contain almost anything. Maybe psychotic sketches of Jay and/or Alex, A picture or picture of Alex, Pages from a playboy with masks drawn on the women who knows. The scream could have been Tim. Think of earlier entries with audio distortion did anyone talking sound human when the distortion got bad.

The distortion could be cause by slenderman or Tim. If its Tim the distortion is getting worse as it goes cause its getting worse and worse of an oh shit moment. If its slenderman he is getting closer to the point that the camera cuts out.

The driving after, Either something was removed by J or Masky (masky had the code to the safe he had access.). Or he recorded over a different tape. Either meaning he was in a hurry (didn't want to be late for meeting Alex) or he was out of tape didn't want to go to get new tapes and grabbed either the first tape he saw or a tape he knew had nothing interesting other than him driving and his face of discomfort was he was looking for somewhere to go to the bathroom, he ran over a skunk, anything else you can think of that would cause discomfort or a bad mood.

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Does anyone else feel like Masky just doesn't really care about Jay? It looks to me as though he's just trying to get out, like he's afraid of Alex.

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dfw
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jeeze guys, way to make a bazillion pages while I was asleep XD
(and btw sleeping was not easy after this entry)

blahblah wrote:
Mariolee wrote:

A broken leg that's been examined and medicated by a doctor generally heals within 3-5 months. I would assume that Tim doesnt get to have all of those medical luxuries. He's gone full masky crazy. Have you noticed he didn't say a single thing throughout the entry, just a lot of grunts screaming and coughs.

He's crazy. He's being controlled by the Operator.

He says "No" a few times when Alex ties Tim up.
NEW QUESTION: TIM FROM THE INTERVIEW IS WAY DIFFERENT THAN MASKY. IS TIM POSSESED? OR DOES HE HAVE A WEIRD AGENDA?

My guess is he couldn't manage to say much while he was being ground into the floor and being half strangled with some rope cord things.
(btw if alex wanted to kill him he could have just kept using the cord? Why go for the rock?)

mistersmile wrote:
Okay guys, seriously, are you in such a rush to throw a theory at the forum just to be the first one who says it that you don't watch the video properly before stating something?

Okay now read very carefully.

Seconds 57 to 58
Alex walks in and says "Jay?"

YES, IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION
Now read very carefully why I say that the other theory about it being more of a "hey pay attention"

Seconds 59 to 1:00
There is a noise.. yes, you guessed right, MASKY MADE THAT NOISE
Do you see where I'm going now?

Alex heard that noise, than made a shush sign because there was obviously no time for questions. Because he realized they weren't alone/the location of the third person then he pointed to where he heard the noise, which jay probably had heard but was still too much in a shock from alex's appearance to care about.

Let's carry on from now, this opens up to a much more logical situation, while the contrary wouldn't make sense.

I was trying to enjoy the topic and never had to butt in before, but I had to make a username to clarify this OBVIOUS logic.

I agree with this just saying.

I haven't read all the pages yet so sorry if I've repeated anything.

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Regarding Masky in #33, there is evidence both for and against it being Tim. Comparing the Tim and 33's Masky, they are definitely different jackets. They are the same color (upon close comparison, they don't seem identical, but that may be lighting), but Tim is definitely wearing a zip-up hoodie. You can tell it has a zipper when he comes out of the stairwell (which I didn't realize was there, Tim didn't go down there in 34) because it isn't zipped up all the way. You can see it clearly. Masky is wearing a hoodless buttoned jacket in 33. Even so, I could swear Masky has had a couple jackets throughout the series, all in that same sort of yellow-ish color.

Also, if Masky in 33 is indeed another character, his build matches the Park Guy from 31 just enough to be worth considering, I think.

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HOLY CRAP AWESOME VIDEO!!!!! Very Happy

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After this Entry, this immediately comes to mind: http://jtroyw.blogspot.com/2011/01/surprises.html

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shoeler
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DickDastardly wrote:
Wow, this puts a whole new complexion on the argument in Episode 9!



YouTube: Link


I guess they really got sick of eachother.


^this

also, that "maybe brian grew up" quote earlier was one of the best posts on this forum all time.

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Leśniak
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Gone over it again. My best guess is that this is actually within only a few days of Entry #26 being posted. Think about it.

J's come back in the morning. He probably left, drove to the nearest hotel, slept it off, then came back to see if he could find anything. He was obviously frustrated (he's realised TTA probably lead him here deliberately), and he reckons he's being taunted, so he calls out in case TTA/whoever is there, watching him.

Turns out Tim is there, probably waiting to jumpscare J for whatever reason, but then when Alex shows up, he gets scared and decided to bolt, so he runs past J, who drops the camera from shock and being shoved aside. Alex blocks him, so Tim goes at him with the knife (hence Alex's "Oh god"). They subdue him. All is well.

There are three possible explanations for Alex showing up:

1. As soon as he'd gotten Amy out of the house in #26, he dodged the Operator (this is the major problem with this theory: What does a brother have to do to pacify the Operator?), but stuck around in the vicinity and waited for whoever to come and retrieve the camera, possibly knowing it would be Tim. He then followed him out to the house in the field and either saw him going in through the side entrance or just worked out that J wasn't a threat because he was ranting about not seeing anything. Pretty pissed off at Tim, he decides that he's going to put him out of action one way or another and breaks his leg with a rock after J points out killing him would be stupid.

2. Alex sent J the tape himself (this seems very unlikely: it's way too antagonistic and it's obviously been doctored what with the "HELP" message at the end) with the return address as a safe meet up point (again unlikely, you'd think he'd have had enough of lurking around abandoned, burnt out buildings by now). Tim could then have been trailing either of them: he seems to have always known their locations throughout all of this.

3. An independent party led Alex, J, and Tim to the same location. This seems most farfetched, because it doesn't explain why Tim immediately hid in the back room, or who planted the camera in Alex's house and sent the tape to J.

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I somewhat doubt it was a fit of rage. Alex's actions....he seems to calm. Like this is what he has to do, because he's done it before. Perhaps its not that easy to kill an agent of the operator.After all, we just saw a masky.

Note: My hand is broken right now, so please excuse any typos.

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Does anyone else get the feeling that the green folder is what Masky wanted J to find?
Like J was supposed to find it, and Masky was hiding nearby to make sure he got it and stuff...then Alex was there and Timasky wasn't expecting that.
And that Alex showing up stopped Jay from finding it maybe?
I dunno..random thought. Also, blood on knife..
My theory is Tim felt trapped at knowing 2 people were there, pulled knife out to try and scare them so he could make a run for it. Alex doesn't let him get by and so he gets cut or stabbed as Tim tries to escape, but then he is of course overpowered by the two of them.

Megarain wrote:


Note: My hand is broken right now, so please excuse any typos.


Alex threw a rock at you too?!!1?

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Wall of text time

Alright, now that I've calmed down enough to think semi-straight, there are some things I want to bring up.

As far as we know, there have been NO attempts on anyone's life in this series. Yes, there was the fire at Jay's apartment, but I'm too convinced it was either an extremely disturbing coincidence or TTA knewn Jay wasn't going to be there and did it as a show of power.

However, this video just feels... wrong. There's something wrong going on, and I think it has to do with Alex. Up until now, he's been considered nothing but a poor victim of the Operator, but what if we're completely off? He tried (maybe succeeded, but I'm leaning towards no) to kill a guy for what appears to be no reason other than prejudice. As far as we know, Masky has had nothing to do with Alex other than working with him as Tim and getting into arguments with him.

I'm not even convinced Timasky was trying to kill Alex with that knife. It was awfully puny, I doubt it could do a serious amount of damage. Which brings up my next point.

BLEEDMORE

If Alex is indeed being followed by the Operator up to this point, then it's perfectly logical that he's somewhere nearby while this confrontation between Alex/Timasky/Jay happens. If BLEEDMORE was a clue as to how to keep the Operator away, that could be Tim's reason for passing up Jay and heading for Alex with that knife.

Which brings up my NEXT point.

I haven't thought hard on this, so there are probably huge holes in it and it will probably change as my mood changes. But. What if Alex is the ARK? Not in a stupid "Alex blah blah blah Kralie" sense, but as a vessel for escaping the Operator.

The message BLEEDMORE, I think we can mostly agree, was directed at Alex, but it could have easily been a clue given to Jay. What if there is something about Alex's very blood that has the ability to end this entire slenderbusiness once and for all? Or at least get the Operator our of everyone's hair.

Webster's Dictionary wrote:
Definition of ARK

something that affords protection and safety


Just something to chew on.

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