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onetruepurple
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Gus23 wrote:
when has jay ever talked to himself on tape before??

#26, #28 (there's a "Wha..." after he walks away from Jessica), #31, #33, #34.

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HunterEris wrote:
Gus23 wrote:
personally i think they didn't arrive there together...or maybe i should say, i think that jay was talking to himself. but this is my question:

when has jay ever talked to himself on tape before??

i guess there's a first for everything. and i could be forgetting something. (and i'm excluding when he is talking to the viewer, i know he does that once or twice)


Entry 34 has him talking to the camera and then he realises that he's doing it. It also continues on from Entry 26 where he talks to the viewer.

Following that 26 and 34 are set 2 days apart, I'm seeing him starting to open up and start treating the camera/viewers as companions (even if in 34 he never intended to be talking to viewers again) and then having the 7 month amnesia just shutting him down again.

I think I agree with 8BitFilk in that we should stop now. I will state as a finality that I don't think they met before this. Searching for my posts will point to plenty of evidence if you are interested in my point of view. My posts are properly started around page 29 or so.

EDIT - redherring: I think I brought a few unique points to the table that weren't mentioned. *nod nod*
Talking to yourself and directly to a camera are two different things though. If a person talks to himself his only intended audience is himself. Directly into a camera implies the intention of eventually reaching an audience seperate from you.

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 		I'm surprised no one is discussing who sent Jay the tape in the first place with that return address. Given that at the very end of that tape there was a very totheark-like HELP.



In fact, there is absolutely *NO* reason for Alex to make this kind of a visual.

Jay then says that he is going to find Alex.
What better place to start than the return address, right?
Masky sent him this tape. Otherwise Alex would have been waiting inside this house, and not Masky.
Masky, expecting Jay, was startled when he saw Alex there as well. That's why Masky ran past Jay, and after Alex.

When you consider the HELP at the end of #26, something almost everyone is ignoring, it doesn't seem very hard to figure this altercation out imo.

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 		It's been brought up, but there really isn't much to say about that speculation. I don't really feel like there's anyone out there who doesn't see it as a possibility that ToTheArk sent the tape, so without opposing speculation, there's not really much else to pick apart with it.

It's definitely possible that he sent the tape. Dead end for much further discussion from there. It was the same way with the folder. Yeah, it's interesting that it's there and wasn't there before, but what else can we say? Simply don't know enough about it.

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Fly Hue wrote:
It's definitely possible that he sent the tape. Dead end for much further discussion from there.


I think the theory that Masky was waiting for Jay and Jay alone is ten times more plausible that the theory of Alex meeting Jay before this.
If Alex/Jay had met before, why didn't Jay post that tape.
It IS kind of important.

Also, further speculation is limitless assuming tta sent the tape.
Did he want to kidnap Jay, so he could lead him to the ark? (a la Entry #####)
Did he plan to kill him? Help him? Give him something? Give him Information?

We don't "know enough" about anything to viably discuss it. Stuff we do know enough about, there is no point in discussing. That's what speculation is all about. Discussion of the unknown.

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Magyk wrote:
Did he plan to kill him? Help him? Give him something? Give him Information?


This makes me think that there is going to be a video at some point of J getting a tape that gives him a new location. When he goes there, Tim is sitting on a couch with a broken leg and they talk about stuff.

Y'know, like the weather and how much they enjoy tea.

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Magyk wrote:
Fly Hue wrote:
It's definitely possible that he sent the tape. Dead end for much further discussion from there.


I think the theory that Masky was waiting for Jay and Jay alone is ten times more plausible that the theory of Alex meeting Jay before this.
If Alex/Jay had met before, why didn't Jay post that tape.
It IS kind of important.

Also, further speculation is limitless assuming tta sent the tape.
Did he want to kidnap Jay, so he could lead him to the ark? (a la Entry #####)
Did he plan to kill him? Help him? Give him something? Give him Information?

We don't "know enough" about anything to viably discuss it. Stuff we do know enough about, there is no point in discussing. That's what speculation is all about. Discussion of the unknown.



Maybe he hasnt found that tape or its missing. We have no proof this covers the ENTIRE 7 month gap, and he doesnt mention anyone telling him to look for something in particular, makes me think that happened between 34 and 35.

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Yellowbus0d00m wrote:
Magyk wrote:
Fly Hue wrote:
It's definitely possible that he sent the tape. Dead end for much further discussion from there.


I think the theory that Masky was waiting for Jay and Jay alone is ten times more plausible that the theory of Alex meeting Jay before this.
If Alex/Jay had met before, why didn't Jay post that tape.
It IS kind of important.

Also, further speculation is limitless assuming tta sent the tape.
Did he want to kidnap Jay, so he could lead him to the ark? (a la Entry #####)
Did he plan to kill him? Help him? Give him something? Give him Information?

We don't "know enough" about anything to viably discuss it. Stuff we do know enough about, there is no point in discussing. That's what speculation is all about. Discussion of the unknown.



Maybe he hasnt found that tape or its missing. We have no proof this covers the ENTIRE 7 month gap, and he doesnt mention anyone telling him to look for something in particular, makes me think that happened between 34 and 35.


If this is true, then he's watching the tapes in achronic order (something he didn't seem to like in the early Entries with Alex's unlabeled tapes) or that he met Alex and it is on the HDD or one of the unlabeled tapes, both of which he hasn't told us he's checking yet.

EDIT - Personally, I would have plugged in the HDD and checked what was on it first since it would be the easiest to check. Then watch the unlabeled tapes. But this kinda ruins the suspence Razz

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 		ok. my theories...i thought about these for a while and waited to post them...

-i believe jay and alex met up prior to this entry. jay clearly had come back to the shack after entry 34 only to find nothing. after he somehow met up with alex, they returned to the shack where jay was frustrated and pissed off, stomping around and loudly proclaiming his frustration. now i know people have said that when alex enters he says "jay?" as a question but that doesn't mean he was surprised to see him there. i am sorry, but there is no way that jay would just not react to alex suddenly being there, bad acting or not. he said he wanted to find alex, and if alex just stumbled into some abandoned building that jay was already in, he wouldn't just silently react to seeing him. the "jay?" could have been a "shut the fuck up and walk into the room i am pointing at"

-tim is obviously masky...but i also think he is TTA. why would TTA post videos using masky's mask?...he might be controlled by the operator, hence the TTA videos and the use of "we"...but i don't know.

-something is definitely off with alex. after tackling and pinning down tim, which jay is all for, he yells for the knife, which jay says no to. he then picks up a huge damn rock aiming to crush something, which jay tries to stop. why is he so violent now? how does he go from paranoid and frightened to badass and violent?

-masky has a limp in 33. which suggests that something was wrong with his leg. i'm supporting the alex broke tim's leg with the big fucking rock so he couldn't "follow us now" theory...

that's all i've got. i've rewatched the video and my thoughts haven't changed...by the way this entry was the best entry ever.

on another note, i am excited to see what TTA has to say about all of this...

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HunterEris wrote:
Yellowbus0d00m wrote:
Magyk wrote:
Fly Hue wrote:
It's definitely possible that he sent the tape. Dead end for much further discussion from there.


I think the theory that Masky was waiting for Jay and Jay alone is ten times more plausible that the theory of Alex meeting Jay before this.
If Alex/Jay had met before, why didn't Jay post that tape.
It IS kind of important.

Also, further speculation is limitless assuming tta sent the tape.
Did he want to kidnap Jay, so he could lead him to the ark? (a la Entry #####)
Did he plan to kill him? Help him? Give him something? Give him Information?

We don't "know enough" about anything to viably discuss it. Stuff we do know enough about, there is no point in discussing. That's what speculation is all about. Discussion of the unknown.



Maybe he hasnt found that tape or its missing. We have no proof this covers the ENTIRE 7 month gap, and he doesnt mention anyone telling him to look for something in particular, makes me think that happened between 34 and 35.


If this is true, then he's watching the tapes in achronic order (something he didn't seem to like in the early Entries with Alex's unlabeled tapes) or that he met Alex and it is on the HDD or one of the unlabeled tapes, both of which he hasn't told us he's checking yet.

EDIT - Personally, I would have plugged in the HDD and checked what was on it first since it would be the easiest to check. Then watch the unlabeled tapes. But this kinda ruins the suspence Razz


Also there's the theory that's been brought up a few times in this discussion so far in this thread: maybe the footage we're seeing was taped over the next tape chronologically and was actually filmed later on in the seven months. This seems pretty plausible, considering the jump cut on the footage (I was mistaken a while back saying there was black in between - it jumps straight from Rock-Wielding Alex to Driving Jay).

To HunterEris (and others who are continuing the DidTheyMeetBeforeThisEntry? debate), I'm not saying the theorizing is bad. It's just sorta repetitious when you've read through this whole thread already. Some good points have come up post-page 30, I'm just not getting convinced either way by it any more.

Is the 'Jay?' + 'Ssh' and Jay's mild reaction to seeing Alex evidence that he's seen him already? Maybe. Could Jay and Alex both be in a bit of shock, and Alex wasn't expecting to see Jay on his way to meet/attack Tim? Also possible. Could they both have been plotting this, having met first, to catch Tim and things went wrong from there when Alex went rogue? (A theory I threw out on a whim a while back.) Unlikely, but we'll know the answers to these questions pretty soon hopefully, and then we'll have even more things to theorize about! Very Happy


What's got me intrigued most right now honestly are Alex's motivations and allegiances. For a while, I thought he was the good guy, the guy who needed saving. Now... I'm not so sure. He's seemed 'off' in my mind since that entry with him and Seth in the bath house where he announces everyone is 'gone'. Entry #26 confirmed that uneasy feeling for me. Entry #35 put me a bit over the edge into the '... maybe Alex is the guy I should be afraid of, not Masky...' camp. I have a really strong feeling that Alex might ultimately be our antagonist by the end of this series, and that this might have something to do with his involvement with and/or handling of events surrounding the arrival of and the 'plague' delivered upon the crew by the Operator. I'm not sure yet WHAT this'll look like... (still working on that part of my theory) but we will see! (Please feel free to deconstruct!)
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 		I don't mean to keep continuing the debate but other people keep posting what I deem to inacurate and I'm an arguer~ Smile

ANYWAY...

I agree that Alex is more and more looking like the main antagonist.

Tim and TTA (who I believe are the same person, but I'll list them seperately for thsoe that don't) seem to have a point to their actions. I can't tell if they are good or bad anymore because of Entry 35. I originally thought they were bad because I think that's the way I think it was written on purpose, but now...

Alex started off as the innocent victim and slowly got more depressed and insane. But in Entry 26 he seemed kind of... detached. I see it again in this episode until he flips and starts getting deadly. He's gone from victim to psychopath with a short fuse.

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HunterEris wrote:
I don't mean to keep continuing the debate but other people keep posting what I deem to inacurate and I'm an arguer~ Smile


Hah, I can relate. Razz Trying to work on it though! Very Happy

HunterEris wrote:
...He's gone from victim to psychopath with a short fuse.


^ And that, my friends, is why MH is officially one of my favorite things ever right now. If they develop this whole possibility right, this could be one of the greatest plot twists (well maybe not twist... more like totally flipped on its freakin' head). It's making me rethink everything (and take a page from Yellowbus0d00m and rewatch the whole series to look for hints at Alex's detachment and... well, kind of insanity).
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 		okay. this new season is great, it's really building a lot of suspense... but i kinda feel that MH is becoming a story more based around totheark/masky than the operator, which was the original problem in the story. we haven't seen him at all this season except for possibly entry 29, but then we dont' even really know if that is for sure the operator or not. i have been waiting for a while for him to make an appearance. he hasn't been seen for a long time now and sometimes i even forget about him when watching the new entries. i'm really hoping for something to be shown that slendy is still out there trying to do something. this new season has been centered around finding the last 7 months and masky. i really hope we see something that will actually keep me up at night in the next entry

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okay. this new season is great, it's really building a lot of suspense... but i kinda feel that MH is becoming a story more based around totheark/masky than the operator, which was the original problem in the story. we haven't seen him at all this season except for possibly entry 29, but then we dont' even really know if that is for sure the operator or not. i have been waiting for a while for him to make an appearance. he hasn't been seen for a long time now and sometimes i even forget about him when watching the new entries. i'm really hoping for something to be shown that slendy is still out there trying to do something. this new season has been centered around finding the last 7 months and masky. i really hope we see something that will actually keep me up at night in the next entry


And Tim's leg-crunch scream didn't keep you up? Poor Tim.

I kinda think there's going to be more of the Operator in this series but there probably won't be much until series 3 (if they are actually going to split it again). For now, J is looking through the tapes and dodging Tim and I only think the Operator will appear in tapes with Alex in them, since the Operator doesn't seem to want to stalk J, even if he has Slendysickness.

The Operator appears in, what, Entry 23 and a TTA video when J is around? I think he doesn't care much about J and more about Tim and Alex.

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 		Now Alex steals Evan's place as the most agressive character on a slendy series.

How about Alex sent the tape, but they didn't met the first time and just continue to be there. Masky picked J's trail and followed him to the house. Alex was watching, waiting for J.

Did someone thought of the TTA's entries as a warning? Would it match? Perhaps Alex WAS aware of J's quest, on youtube, and then he tried to make him o forget about anything with the cryptic videos, so he wouldn't be recognized?

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