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[RustyMuffler]

Up The Academy!!

[Broklynite]

Feel's like we've been here before...

In all seriousness, I've known some of the people who do the reviewing and voting for the Academy, and ever since then, I both stopped giving a damn about their opinions, and cared even less about what they feel should be awarded.

Do you know what an Academian does? They send him/her a bunch of DVDs/VHS tapes and these people sit and watch it over dinner with their families. Are these people non-biased? Nope. Impartial? Nope. I mean, let's face it- how often do excellent science fiction movies win anything? Fantasy does fine, because fantasy is okay and adult, while scifi is childish. It's published in those pulp magazines. And people who like scifi are nerds, and we are actors and don't like nerds.

It's sad, but that really is the attitude.

Worse is when they don't bother to review the movie themselves, but loan out their copies to other people to ask their opinions. How crazy is that?

Now, I'm not saying that Tron legacy was the be-all and end-all. I don't know if I would say that Garret Hedlund deserves best actor or whatever. But I cannot say that I am surprised that it wasn't even given a chance. You'll be less frustrated if you accept that the people who run the academy are rarely people like you and me.

Hell, look at Siskel and Ebert. Siskel used to say a movie was garbage, and Ebert used to say "Yea, but it was fun garbage." When is the last time you heard Ebert talk about how something was fun garbage? Sometimes a movie is trash, but we enjoy it anyway. Look at christmas movies- you cannot judge them the same way as other movies, they have to be examined in a totally different light. They tend to be more sappy and sentimental that other genres, because that is what we've come to like and expect. People change in their opinions. Nowadays Ebert is always so damn serious about What Is Art and all that crap. When is the last time you heard someone who worries about Art (note the capital A) actually enjoying a good SF movie? Or SF book? Or a video game?

Face it, the academy does not represent the opinions of us, the people. It represents the opinions of the Academy reviewers, and nothing more.

I always thought that it was a load of crap that Triplets of Bellville lost Best Music in a Foreign Film to The Two Towers. Which used the same damn music that was used in the previous film, and I'm not sure if you can really consider it as a "foreign" film, even though it was filmed in a foreign country.

[Rogi Ocnorb]

American Beauty
Forrest Gump
Denzel for Training Day (Instead of for Malcolm X when Pacino got it for Scent of a Woman)
Carey for Truman
Al Gore... Really?

I stopped caring what the experts thought long, long ago.

[tronprogram]

Maybe the Academy thought TRON was still cheating by using computers 28 years later.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Best Original Song: 4 noms, 2 from animated movies

Best Original Score: 5 noms, 1 animated

Best Visual Effects: 5 noms. <sigh> Swelling up someone's head is "best" I guess.

Oscar can suck my you-know-what. "Sound Editing"? F you.

[KC0GRN]

I seriously think hollywood has way too many award shows anyways. People sitting around in a big room patting themselves on the back all the while prepping for the awards shows by having spa treatments and playing a fashion show on a red carpet outside.

I enjoy movies, but in all honesty, I don't worship the people who make them. I can respect them for what they do by watching/buying their movies, possibly collectible items, soundtracks and would probably even think it was cool to meet them or get something signed by them. I don't have to nominate them for awards that are chosen by biased people anyway (face it, everyone is biased, it's called having an opinion). The concept is truly meaningless.

[ShadowDragon1]

How the heck can the Oscar voters just up and dismiss and snub Tron Legacy and not give even a Visual effects or Soundtrack nomination?
The Daft Punk Score album for the film is their biggest hit in the US! WTH? This page demonstrates they deserved nominations, watch the videos on this site (warning lot's of spoilers if you haven't seen the movie).

http://digitaldomainvip.com

I rarely get pissed off. But this bullshit Oscar snubbing pisses me off.

[Euchre]

I haven't believed in the Academy since Titanic won Best Picture and a slew of others. I guess you could say that was the iceberg that sunk the Oscars.

The 'making of' video on Digital Domain is awesome. I like the seamless transitions between effects stages and composite steps to final shot. Instead of laboring with dialog about how they did this and that, they just show it to you.

I think Disney learned long ago that golden statues don't hold a candle to golden revenue results.

[shaved_ape]

what a stupid list.

[PFloyd]

[madopal]

[IllusionOfLife]

I was equally disappointed that Scott Pilgrim didn't get the nomination for VFX either. And to add insult to injury, one of the nominees makes zero sense for a VFX nomination; sorry Clint Eastwood, I like you, but this does not have more impressive visual effects than TRON: Legacy or Scott Pilgrim

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/hereafter/

Also, on the score front, all of the nominees have great scores, but nothing as original or memorable as Daft Punks score for TRON: Legacy.

I am disappoint.

On a side note, EDGECRUSHER, what did you mean by singling out the animated films that were nominated? I sincerely hope you weren't trying to imply that they were lesser films because they were animated because that would be equally, if not more narrow minded than the Academy's snubbing of TRON: Legacy.

[Nighthawk]

[madopal]

[EDGECRUSHER]