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[VIDEO] Entry 36
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Mr.Beyond
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theonewhoquestions wrote:
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Randoman96 wrote:
Safety Scissors wrote:

Could someone clarify for me why people believe entry #26 must have been sent by TTA? Couldn't Alex have sent the tape and still not be TTA?


To me, it seems that the f'd up nature of the video's introduction, not to mention the Operator signal at the end.


If the video from 26 had been sent by TTA, I doubt he would have made it so.... up-front. TTA likes to TAUNT J. He would have sent a tiny portion of it overlaid with some cryptic messages and some freaky sound effects. He includes cryptic messages at the end of even his most straighforward videos (exit, return both have strangely formatted text in them.) His psychology seems like someone who likes to TAUNT J, not give him straightforward answers. The strange pieces at the beginning seem more like the effects of distortion and not deliberate editing like TTA.

I'm of the camp that Alex did send the video but is NOT indeed TTA. Of course, I don't believe TTA is TiMasky, either, so I'm part of the third-party camp.


I agree with you. The HELP seems almost TTA-like, but not enough that I would agree with him actually being TTA. And the footage is laid out as being there before she started recording. MAYBE, just maybe you could attribute it to a rush job.


It could have POSSIBLY been a rush job, but if so, I doubt he would have shown him the WHOLE video. He could have shown like.... twelve seconds of it, showing Alex, Amy and Slenderman without giving him the whole picture. I think the Help almost seems like... like a TTA-imitation. Like a sort of mockery or attempt at his style. I agree that the footage seems like it was there before she started recording. She even SAYS that on-camera: "I tried to watch it but it was... messed up or something, I don't know."

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Mr.Beyond wrote:
theonewhoquestions wrote:
Mr.Beyond wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
Safety Scissors wrote:

Could someone clarify for me why people believe entry #26 must have been sent by TTA? Couldn't Alex have sent the tape and still not be TTA?


To me, it seems that the f'd up nature of the video's introduction, not to mention the Operator signal at the end.


If the video from 26 had been sent by TTA, I doubt he would have made it so.... up-front. TTA likes to TAUNT J. He would have sent a tiny portion of it overlaid with some cryptic messages and some freaky sound effects. He includes cryptic messages at the end of even his most straighforward videos (exit, return both have strangely formatted text in them.) His psychology seems like someone who likes to TAUNT J, not give him straightforward answers. The strange pieces at the beginning seem more like the effects of distortion and not deliberate editing like TTA.

I'm of the camp that Alex did send the video but is NOT indeed TTA. Of course, I don't believe TTA is TiMasky, either, so I'm part of the third-party camp.


I agree with you. The HELP seems almost TTA-like, but not enough that I would agree with him actually being TTA. And the footage is laid out as being there before she started recording. MAYBE, just maybe you could attribute it to a rush job.


It could have POSSIBLY been a rush job, but if so, I doubt he would have shown him the WHOLE video. He could have shown like.... twelve seconds of it, showing Alex, Amy and Slenderman without giving him the whole picture. I think the Help almost seems like... like a TTA-imitation. Like a sort of mockery or attempt at his style. I agree that the footage seems like it was there before she started recording. She even SAYS that on-camera: "I tried to watch it but it was... messed up or something, I don't know."


Yeah, I get the feeling he may have found all these vids right after he was attacked because he knew Jay was the one he gave them to. My thoughts exactly on the HELP too.

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From what I heard, it didn't sound like Alex sent him the tape, only that he knew about it. I dunno. It's hard to tell if/when J is a reliable narrator, and that's part of the fun I suppose.

Anyway, I still don't view Alex as suspiciously as a lot of other fans do right now. Put yourself in his position: he's had scary shit happen to him, he got away from it for a while, got a girl and put his life back together. Then his dumbass friend starts posting it on youtube, the Operator reappears and possibly kills/scares away his girlfriend, and Tim's lurking around and stabbing him.

I'd be feeling the same way in that situation. Like he said, he could have done worse - and from the looks of things, he probably should have.

Or, Alex really is hiding something terrible and Tim is actually some misunderstood hero... but I just don't care much for that theory. I like Tim better as a villainous douchebag and Alex as a somewhat moody and pretentious but overall decent guy who got caught up in some Weird Shit and wants to end it.

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Sachael wrote:
Or, Alex really is hiding something terrible and Tim is actually some misunderstood hero...


See, this is the theory I'd like to believe. It seems to explain Alex's changed behavior. It seems very strange to me that Alex would suddenly be all macho and so assertive with J and Masky. Something must have happened to change his attitude from "gotta GTFO of this mess" to wanting to be a part of it again.

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Hello everyone! This is my very first post here! I just caught on to Marble Hornets about a month ago and spent tons of time watching all the vids while reading along with people's theories and observations at the same time. Very time consuming reading a few thousand posts between each vid, but it made me feel like I've been watching it for years now.

This is the first time I've seen a new vid when it first came out. I'm so damn excited. I'm gonna post again right after I see this and read all the replies. My only regret was that I did not check my youtube sooner.
Very Happy

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GameGodOfAll wrote:
Hello everyone! This is my very first post here! I just caught on to Marble Hornets about a month ago and spent tons of time watching all the vids while reading along with people's theories and observations at the same time. Very time consuming reading a few thousand posts between each vid, but it made me feel like I've been watching it for years now.

This is the first time I've seen a new vid when it first came out. I'm so damn excited. I'm gonna post again right after I see this and read all the replies. My only regret was that I did not check my youtube sooner.
Very Happy


Yay, welcome to the madness! Your very first Marble Hornets live update is a special thing. Very Happy

I respect your tenacity, reading through old threads. It can seriously be a slog. High five!

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GameGodOfAll wrote:
Hello everyone! This is my very first post here! I just caught on to Marble Hornets about a month ago and spent tons of time watching all the vids while reading along with people's theories and observations at the same time. Very time consuming reading a few thousand posts between each vid, but it made me feel like I've been watching it for years now.

This is the first time I've seen a new vid when it first came out. I'm so damn excited. I'm gonna post again right after I see this and read all the replies. My only regret was that I did not check my youtube sooner.
Very Happy


Welcome to Unforum! Don't feed the trolls, avoid men in suits, and have fun. Smile

(First new entry I saw was #27. I had a dramatic entrance.)

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Theycallmehsexypants wrote:
It could be possible that [Alex] knows his way around a computer and could have gotten Jay's I.P. through one of his Tweets.

I'm about 99% sure that Twitter doesn't store the submitting IP address in a tweet's XML data (though it does store a LOT of information can be datamined by the right tools; they're designed that way). Then again, this is a fictional story, so it's possible... would be a pretty silly cop-out though.

I'm starting to be come less adamant on the "There's no way Alex can be totheark" theory. Though for him to be TTA, we still have to get over the fact that Alex was busy running from The Operator when TTA was filming Jay getting the batteries.

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Alex has had that mustang for, like, 5 years now. good for him. Razz

I feel like if Alex did actually send the package to jay, then alex has to be TTA. the editing's the same and stuff. cryptic text message. fits right in with the rest of totheark's repertoire (actually, a lot more so than entry ######).

So the rest of this is assuming that whomever sent the package to jay is TTA.

couple things that don't make sense if TTA is alex.

-"you've been keeping secrets". That line made Jay reveal that he's been filming himself, and leads him to the discovery that TIMASKY WAS IN HIS ROOM AND STUFF, MAN. How would TTA know that unless he was masky, the only one that's been in the room. And, as recently seen, alex and masky don't quite seem like they're on friendly, information sharing speaking terms.

-Alex turning around and filming jay get more batteries and stuff out of alex's car in exit. alex would have had to had switched tapes, filmed jay, switched back, and filmed all the stuff from 14(?), which i don't think he had time to do.

-Jay has tweeted before (maybe said in a youtube entry, not positive) something along the lines of "TTA, who i presume is the masked individual, knows where i live". I think it was an entry, actually. now if jay's saying that alex sent him the tape of 26, which by extension makes alex TTA, then jay lied at some point here. He's obviously an unreliable narrator, but one of those statements has to be false, and, until we get a video of alex saying "Jay, I was the one making those ToTheArk videos.", we can't be certain.

-"warning" has masky in it. doesn't make any sense that masky would be working with alex here. considering. leg smash.

-TTA having footage of jay with slenderman, after masky led jay out of his room to him. again, masky and alex not really on speaking terms. or maybe they had a falling out or something. but. doubt it.

couple things that do make sense if alex is TTA:

-"the following are raw footage excerpts from alex kralie". at first, those in the alex=tta camp screamed "HEY! THATS PROOF! RIGHT THERE! PROOF! ITS HIM!", then everyone else countered "he's just mocking jay. that's how jay began the entries." But, hey, maybe it actually was what the first thought was all along.

-how TTA seems to have access to audio and footage that even jay doesn't have (or maybe just didn't upload i guess).

i dunno. i've always been in the tim=tta camp, and i'm still finding it unlikely. though, with the advent of the package possibly coming from alex, my viewpoint has shifted from "impossible" to "unlikely", so, hey. whatever.

tl;dr if alex sent jay the entry 26 package, he's probably tta, and that could make sense but there's still gaping holes to be filled.

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Man... if Alex turns out to be TTA, I'm going to feel pretty angry.

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My first one I posted under was the one where TimMasky came back.

As for tape speculation, I believe Alex sent the tape knowing Timasky would see it. TimMasky say entry 26, saw that Jay had announced going to the return address, and went there himself.

Alex had the place staked out, didn't make his prescence known the first time Jay was there because Masky hadn't reached it yet.
When he came back the next time,

-Tim was hiding knowing with Jay there, Alex would be there soon.
-Alex saw Tim go in and hide
-Jay is oblivious third party

Thus entry #35
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also: maybe jay did lie low. maybe he lied SO low even HE doesn't know what he's been up to. that's how well he did it.

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Thanks! I must admit that I squealed like a school girl when I saw the twitter update right before going to bed tonight. Now I gotta get to bed. Figures the first time would be the night before I have another big mid term test in college.

As for the entry I liked it a lot. This feels like they were sort of answers our theories. As if they didn't want us to be completely left up in the air like a few entries did in season 1. It was nice, but it wasn't just filler. It added a lot.

My theories:

Distortion- I think Alex can cause it as well. I think anyone who comes into contact with the Operator gets it over time and Alex has been very close for 3 years give or take now.

Now J is assuming Alex left the package. I have no evidence to back this up, but my gut says this may be a red heiring.

Alright that's all for now from me. Sad Wish I had more crazy theories.

Now to go asleep and constantly look out at that really scary looking tree across the street.

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Zarggg wrote:
Theycallmehsexypants wrote:
It could be possible that [Alex] knows his way around a computer and could have gotten Jay's I.P. through one of his Tweets.

I'm about 99% sure that Twitter doesn't store the submitting IP address in a tweet's XML data (though it does store a LOT of information can be datamined by the right tools; they're designed that way). Then again, this is a fictional story, so it's possible... would be a pretty silly cop-out though.

Sorry to quote myself, but I just remembered that Twitter's data object does store latitude/longitude coordinates for the point of submission (if enabled by a cell phone or Firefox, for example). If Jay was dumb enough to turn that option on, it's entirely possible and not at all implausible for someone to find him via his tweets.

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Loved this entry. I like how we're getting to hear characters talking again. And Jay has a pretty entertaining voice when he's upset XD

So, this was probably brought up a long time ago, but it just now hit me. Don't Alex's drawings as seen in the original tapes seem kinda ToTheArkish? Random crudely drawn symbols and cryptic, oddly rendered phrases like "SEESME"...I don't know why I never noticed the connection before =/ but like someone else said, there's still a lot of things that only really make sense if Tim is TTA.

Also, since post-26 all we've seen of Alex is two entries/one day, isn't it possible that Amy is still with him and just stayed home during Alex's Tim-smashing adventure?

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