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[VIDEO] Entry 36
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WeAreInsanity
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Hey guys. I've been lurking for a while here, but I had a few ideas that I wanted to throw out with this entry.

First of all, this is going under the assumption that TTA is Masky/Tim. Here's a few reasons why I think I can make that assumption:
1. The "Warning" video: Assuming that the first part ("The following is raw footage...") is simply mocking Jay, then how the heck would Alex have all that footage of Masky doing... masky things?
2. I find it too unusual that Masky and TTA, two characters who seem to know all the answers and are hell-bent on interfering with Jay's life would be separate people.

Okay. So, we can almost certainly assume that Alex sent the tape in Entry 26. Remember that Alex and Jay had about zero contact with each other since Alex fled the area until this point. How does Alex know to send the tape to Jay? Keep this in mind for a sec.

Next, a lot of info is in the quote "I could have done worse and I probably should have." This shows that Alex knows about the existence of Masky from one way or another.

These two things suggest at least one of two points: One, Alex has been watching the entries, or Two, Alex has been "haunted" by Tim or someone else in a mask. I'm inclined to think both.

There's a simple reason why I think Alex has been being haunted by someone similar to Tim. Going back to Entry 26, on the tape Alex sent jay, at 2:34, there's a mask. Not Tim's mask, but something similar. Since the tape came from Alex, and the footage is from Alex, wouldn't it make sense to think that someone similar to Tim has been chasing after Alex?

That would also explain why he didn't hesitate to try to kill Tim, even though Jay (being in a very similar situation) freaked out when Alex tried to.

This also is why I think that TTA is not Alex. I think Alex and Jay are two people in very similar situations, and that's really the extent of it. Thus making Tim Totheark, and possibly suggesting a second "Masky."

One other thing I wanted to mention; Has anyone else noticed how little the operator has actually appeared to Jay? Since Jay stopped uploading Alex's footage (entry 15, excl. entry 17), the Operator appeared once in Return, and once in Entry 23. It's as if the Operator is more Alex's issue, and Tim is Jay's. Just an observation there.

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Coded
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Christ, the distorted noise was hard to listen to. I almost threw my earphones off.

Good enough entry that brought some more answers. I wonder if Alex had any influence on where Jay was staying, or if Jay just chose the hotel himself.

I'm still wondering what Tim wants from Jay. Is it a tape?

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Danyull
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Does anyone else think it might be of note that Jay's twitter didn't upload saying this was up?

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theonewhoquestions
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Danyull wrote:
Does anyone else think it might be of note that Jay's twitter didn't upload saying this was up?


Jay is just forgetful.

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HunterEris
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theonewhoquestions wrote:
Danyull wrote:
Does anyone else think it might be of note that Jay's twitter didn't upload saying this was up?


Jay is just forgetful.


Nah... He hasn't forgotten much in the past. It's not like there's a 7 month gap or anything Very Happy

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WeAreInsanity wrote:
Hey guys. I've been lurking for a while here, but I had a few ideas that I wanted to throw out with this entry.

First of all, this is going under the assumption that TTA is Masky/Tim. Here's a few reasons why I think I can make that assumption:
1. The "Warning" video: Assuming that the first part ("The following is raw footage...") is simply mocking Jay, then how the heck would Alex have all that footage of Masky doing... masky things?
2. I find it too unusual that Masky and TTA, two characters who seem to know all the answers and are hell-bent on interfering with Jay's life would be separate people.

Okay. So, we can almost certainly assume that Alex sent the tape in Entry 26. Remember that Alex and Jay had about zero contact with each other since Alex fled the area until this point. How does Alex know to send the tape to Jay? Keep this in mind for a sec.

Next, a lot of info is in the quote "I could have done worse and I probably should have." This shows that Alex knows about the existence of Masky from one way or another.

These two things suggest at least one of two points: One, Alex has been watching the entries, or Two, Alex has been "haunted" by Tim or someone else in a mask. I'm inclined to think both.

There's a simple reason why I think Alex has been being haunted by someone similar to Tim. Going back to Entry 26, on the tape Alex sent jay, at 2:34, there's a mask. Not Tim's mask, but something similar. Since the tape came from Alex, and the footage is from Alex, wouldn't it make sense to think that someone similar to Tim has been chasing after Alex?

That would also explain why he didn't hesitate to try to kill Tim, even though Jay (being in a very similar situation) freaked out when Alex tried to.

This also is why I think that TTA is not Alex. I think Alex and Jay are two people in very similar situations, and that's really the extent of it. Thus making Tim Totheark, and possibly suggesting a second "Masky."

One other thing I wanted to mention; Has anyone else noticed how little the operator has actually appeared to Jay? Since Jay stopped uploading Alex's footage (entry 15, excl. entry 17), the Operator appeared once in Return, and once in Entry 23. It's as if the Operator is more Alex's issue, and Tim is Jay's. Just an observation there.


I own a masky mask, and a camera. not hard to immitate IMO, but you did make some good points, I'm not sure if Alex is TTA, because it just doesn't seem like he was doing it, or masky was doing it.

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IonCharge wrote:
My Theory:

Alex says "...hotel you are at, etc." However I think that he could be saying in context:
"They were able to find the hotel you were at, the room you were at and get a pacakge delivered to your door."

I think they are probably talking about Tim here. I think Tim sent him the video, as Tim knew where the Operator was, but suddenly before Tim can get down to explaining, Alex turns up, after watching J and his entries online. Then Alex gets the whereabouts of the mystery hut/house and turns up as well, not wanting J to know the whole truth (?). Then Tim realises Alex is there, then puts on his mask and tries to get stabbing.
Of course, this fails and his leg is broken. Then after Alex abandons J in this entry, (which looks like the park from a few entries back) J goes back to find Tim to see if he is okay, as J is a nice guy and all, plus he wants answers. However, upon arrival, our favourite tall gentleman turns up and wipes J's memory.

No idea where Jessica is in all of this. Still wanting to know where Amy is. Hoping the next entry contains some traces of Slenderman.

I like this theory in general, however I think the memory-erasing happened shortly before Jay started uploading again. As you recall, one of the first things he mentioned was that he woke up in the hotel with a camera strapped to him and he had no idea why. It seems likely those seven months were wiped just before.

Another thought: Considering the limping Timasky had when he accosted Jay at the hotel, I think that 34 through 36 happened at most a month or two before Jay started uploading again. There's probably a lot more ground left to cover.

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Zarggg wrote:
Another thought: Considering the limping Timasky had when he accosted Jay at the hotel, I think that 34 through 36 happened at most a month or two before Jay started uploading again. There's probably a lot more ground left to cover.

We know that #34 happened back in April, because Jay tells us while he's driving that he'd just left the hotel he was in to check the return address on the package. We can't know for sure how much time passed between #34 and #35, but it doesn't seem like it was very long. I'm thinking we have about six more months of footage to go through before we're caught up to entry #27.

I'm no expert on broken bones, but we don't know the extent of the damage. Maybe it was really awful? I looked back at #33, and it looked like he wasn't bending his right knee at all. I remember some people speculating back in the #35 thread that if it was a knee injury, it could potentially take a lot longer to heal than say, a broken shin.

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Salty
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I don't think it's hard to believe at all that Tim may have avoided proper medical attention (maybe because he can't communicate, maybe because he's a criminal, who knows, there could be any number of reasons) and still been dealing with a slight limp nine months after the incident.

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sp103
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I don't think because Alex said " i should of done worse" is an indication that he has had prior encounters with Masky, I think its more that he just got stabbed by him!

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@YamaKami: You're right. Total brainfart on all that. Sad

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Sorry to be out of place but I'm I the only one thinking that Jessica is Alex's girlfriend?

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Biohazard80 wrote:
Sorry to be out of place but I'm I the only one thinking that Jessica is Alex's girlfriend?

Hi, welcome to the forum! Are you talking about Alex's girlfriend Amy from entry #26? Salty posted a helpful screen shot on page 11 of this thread. You might want to check that out!

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sp103 wrote:
I don't think because Alex said " i should of done worse" is an indication that he has had prior encounters with Masky, I think its more that he just got stabbed by him!


THIS.


In all honesty, the big problem is that we have just enough facts that a HUGE number of potential theories can be constructed of them, but we're missing vital information that could actually Disprove any. So really, maybe WeAreInsanity's theory is true, but we won't know for sure either way till we gets more information.

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Biohazard80 wrote:
Sorry to be out of place but I'm I the only one thinking that Jessica is Alex's girlfriend?

ah, missed that. Anyway, based on this entry and fragments I'm convinced Alex is totheark. Jumbled pic of Tim, "you are broken," all this before J or anyone for that matter knew that Tim's leg was broken by Alex, except Alex of course. The only other explanation is that J is actually totheark and has plit personality disorder.

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