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Socio-Reengineering Seminar 2011
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goosenrose
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<3

i had a great time today. im glad i got to see / meet you guys! [and touch your hands, shoes, foreheads, etc....]

<3 g O O s e

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Everfalling
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today was great but i gotta be honest that i'm a tad disappointed it was nothing BUT team building exercises. it would have been nice to use juvenescence as a team builder and then, as that team, revolt against the JI. It sorta felt like it ended in a whimper rather than an energetic bang. It was fun, don't get me wrong, i just feel like we were building up to a great climax and it didn't come. if anything i have more in-game questions than before. there was a reason everyone just kinda sat slaw jawed when Octavio said 'Eva bless' and then disappeared. all in all a great experience just not one i thought we were being lead to Razz
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Eloquence Mineyes
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I'm with Everfalling on this one... I'm disappointed because every other part of the game was sooooooooo well done. There was back story and so many details that you were distracted at many points because you weren't sure which information was actually relevant.

The whole event on Sunday would have been fine as it was if we hadn't been pumped up ahead of time. But I guess that's just how one makes tea...

I would have rather had the game end at act IV. It was really, really amazing.

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Shady GaGa
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I thought it was the best possible ending. Up until Sunday we had all been suspending our disbelief and role-playing. Even during the first half of the seminar it felt as if everyone was a bit tense, as we just played along and listened to what we knew to be nonsense, all the while waiting to pretend to revolt against an actor pretending to be Octavio. Had we chased the Coleman actor out onto Market Street and thrown tea-balls at him, or pretended to take pictures of him committing crimes against nonchalance in the 1980s… would that really have been a better ending? I don't think so.

Instead, at some point, it all merged into reality, and by the end maybe we realized that-- surprise! The Jejune Institute really *is* a cult! It's just not a cult in which you hoard guns or drink poisoned punch; rather, it is one in which members find and befriend like-minded individuals, and find outlets for creativity.

Jeff Hull shared his vision for the reclamation of public space with us through the Jejune Institute, and helped bring us all into one another's lives. I think the finale of the game, and the subsequent Q&A, was pretty wonderful.

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dahanese
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I both agree and disagree with the sentiments of disappointment surrounding Sunday. I think with something so long and epic as this game, no ending would be completely satisfying because it is, after all, an end - and I would rather the thing not end. However, the logistics of a revolt and kidnapping might have been more complicated and risky than the team wanted to take on (like the Hip Hop kiosk that never ended up making it in the game) so they stayed with concepts they knew people would enjoy.

As for "Eva bless" I am still baffled by that turn - Octavio walked the line between breaking the fiction and making reality bleed into the game in a really awesome way and I'm not sure if that was just a sign off and good bye that was cool and fun or if it really does signal that these two groups really are one and not truly at odds.

I'm sad I didn't get to do every piece of this experience but I'm excited for his next project - and the fact I'll be able to be there from the beginning.

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MrEricSir
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dahanese wrote:
As for "Eva bless" I am still baffled by that turn - Octavio walked the line between breaking the fiction and making reality bleed into the game in a really awesome way and I'm not sure if that was just a sign off and good bye that was cool and fun or if it really does signal that these two groups really are one and not truly at odds.


My thinking was that his statement that we all considered this to be "just a game" was an acknowledgement by Octavio that it was, in fact, a game. But remember, following the directions on the induction card was breaking Octavio's wishes... or was it? To play the game was to defy Octavio, but now he's telling us that he wanted us to play the game all along.

So when he says "Eva bless," that's not really a contradiction.

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into all this.

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MrEricSir
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Also, here's a video of Octavio's final message. (Perhaps someone has a better recording than my shaky iPhone video?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nqsIudvaCY

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Mg_42
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Count me among the disappointed on this one. The trust building, and lowering of our inhibitions was fun for the first couple hours or so, but ultimately I was there because of the story. Sadly this final act contained no conflict, tension or meaningful resolution. Tension is what makes stories worth listening to. Just look at how having the assignment from Terrance the previous day added tons of interest and excitement to meeting the jejunites in the hotel room.

Yes I agree chasing Coleman out of the building while throwing tea at him would have been silly, but there were so many opportunities to expand the story of this final act. What if the EPWA hacked into the video feed thanks to us having our tea in pockets. What if Eva made an appearance on screen (or even just over the speakers) and called out all the groups for falsely acting in her name. So many possibilities...

We were promised so much leading up to this, surely it wasn't going to please everyone. But to ignore the previous acts, and characters introduced was quite odd. That said, I think the performances, and design of everything was top notch. And I am so glad to have been able to have participated in this with all of you. Just left me wanting more I guess.

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superdilettante
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As much as it pains me to say so, count me as one of the disappointed. So much could have been said/done, and at the end it's just a sweaty hippie party? Was that the point? That there are no good guys or bad guys in the world?

why bother with all of the sturm und drang and buildup that effectively rendered us insensible to the supposed "messages" we were supposed to be receiving from Antoine Logan, if Antoine's messages were the point of the day? All it did for me was create mistrust of the entire thing. 

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Sgt Tashigi
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 My thoughts
Yes? No!

Initially I admit I was a little confused and disappointed. Though I also won't go ahead and say that it was the best ending ever. What I will say is 'it is what it is'. I'm thankful for the experience and I really appreciate all the planning that has filled my last year with as much curiosity as it has filled me with uncertainty.

Well wait, let me back up a bit. I'm an interloper. I haven't done act 4. I couldn't do act 2 for lack of teeth and not lack of determination. That poor girl at Paxton's is probably so glad to be rid of me... My act 3 was cut short due to Film Yard closing. I spent hours this weekend studying jejune and elsewhere in fear that i might get thrown out for being a poser.

Maybe there's no other way for me to take the whole seminar than whole-hearted graciousness, but I think this ending begs us to do one singular thing.

Transcend to your Elsewhere. Make your own story for other squadronites and non-squadronites alike to enjoy, fear and explore.

Then again, I could have missed something.

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superdilettante
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Re: My thoughts
Yes? No!

Sgt Tashigi wrote:


Maybe there's no other way for me to take the whole seminar than whole-hearted graciousness, but I think this ending begs us to do one singular thing.

Transcend to your Elsewhere. Make your own story for other squadronites and non-squadronites alike to enjoy, fear and explore.


This is a good message indeed. But that's what I gathered from Act IV.

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Sgt Tashigi
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Re: My thoughts
Yes? No!

superdilettante wrote:

This is a good message indeed. But that's what I gathered from Act IV.


damnit I knew I missed something.

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Everfalling
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I think they did themselves a major disservice by getting us all pumped up for a revolt through all those nfltr8 emails, the last dispatch from elsewhere, and the subversion at the pre-screening and then simply not delivering some sort of appearance by the EPWA even if it wasn't a full on revolt. Hell even if the EPWA came to tell us that they, in fact, have made peace with Coleman and maybe have Eva come out and have a similar speech that Coleman gave I'd feel a LOT better about it even if it was as equally evasive of a lot of the questions still left unanswered. But at the end, when Coleman had left and even after we had all applauded, people were still wondering if that was it and WHY that was it. There was clearly something that just didn't happen and I think it kept a number of people from truly absorbing the message.
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superdilettante
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Re: My thoughts
Yes? No!

Sgt Tashigi wrote:
superdilettante wrote:

This is a good message indeed. But that's what I gathered from Act IV.


damnit I knew I missed something.


That's just my interpretation of Act IV: that we passed through to Elsewhere and back again, and as such there was no difference between us and Eva, therefore no separation between our contributions and her creative/divine fire. In collaborating with each other and sharing it with at least one member of the Hollowheads, the message I got was "good. you got this far. Now you have a responsibility to carry the message the way we did."

I took it to heart.
I didn't get that feeling from the Seminar. That felt more like a sweaty inappropriate hug rather than a meeting of the minds. Wink

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Sgt Tashigi
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Arrrgg11 !!! *insert more rage*


maaaannnnn that sounds so awesome! No wonder so many people are totally let down.

If anyone has video from the experience, I for one would like to see it

~wannabe squadronite

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