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Randoman96
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onetruepurple wrote:
Skully:

- 5 seconds of screen time in what's about an hour of footage at this point
- seen only in the distorted video in entry #26
- not once acknowledged by Jay
- too grainy to see if it's even a mask
- less meaning than the doll in #18 and #23
- not relevant


It's clearly a mask....I don't know where you're getting the "too grainy" part. And I don't see how it's not relevant?
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onetruepurple wrote:
Skully:

- 5 seconds of screen time in what's about an hour of footage at this point
- seen only in the distorted video in entry #26
- not once acknowledged by Jay
- too grainy to see if it's even a mask
- less meaning than the doll in #18 and #23
- not relevant

Are you one of the viewers who go by the rule "screentime=the only way to be important?"

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
onetruepurple wrote:
Skully:

- 5 seconds of screen time in what's about an hour of footage at this point
- seen only in the distorted video in entry #26
- not once acknowledged by Jay
- too grainy to see if it's even a mask
- less meaning than the doll in #18 and #23
- not relevant

Are you one of the viewers who go by the rule "screentime=the only way to be important?"


"Skully" as he's been nicknamed was hardly even acknowledged in the videos and there's been no twitter/story reference of him/it/whatever since. Rampant speculation has made this a part of the story when it might never end up being one. I seriously have a hard time believing that anyone is still rooting for the existence of this character.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there's four people/entities we should really be focused on: Jay, Alex, TiMasky, and Mr. S...

And who knows, Masky is a pretty fashion conscious young man in his yellow bomber jacket, maybe he just wanted to switch things up with a new mask. XD!

I kid, of course. I for one think it was something spooky that was inserted just to scare us a little bit. I don't think it was ever meant for this level of analysis of belief.

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 		That is a really poor way of looking at things. Of course it's important, in some way! It's another person in a mask. Even if it isn't important now, there is the best chance it's GOING to be.

By that logic, Jay never really talked much about the key early on in season two. I guess we can just disregard that it exists now.

If it appears like that as that, it deserves to be analyzed.

And also, you're telling me that Skully isn't deserving of being analyzed, and yet we had like six people fussing over a root that looked like a deformed leg like it was TTA.
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 		when I watch that video, I still have difficulty telling if it is actually another person in a mask; I mean, its not like the video in particular is very clear on that. Altogether, I'm not against the idea of it, but I don't think its a solid fact; its a distorted image that is on for a few seconds, and while it is possible that it is a masked bandito, I'd hardly add it to the official MH cast. There is no way to truly prove skully's existance or lack of existence until either skully appears, more evidence is given, or the series ends. So no one should be pressing for others to go one way or another, as its just one of those occurances where it is imposible to determine what we truly were looking at.

As for my personal opinion, I wouldn't mind skully, but it just doesn't seem...enough to really make me include it in my speculations. So until the series has further skully-linked evidence, I'm probably not going to join the Skully Side. On the bright side, though, this theory is a far more logical, acceptable theory than the old A. R. K. theory

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 		Again, to the people who think "Skully" is important, what content found within the scope of this series (videos and Twitter only) other than the initial appearance leads you to believe that it has relevance unto itself?

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when I watch that video, I still have difficulty telling if it is actually another person in a mask; I mean, its not like the video in particular is very clear on that.


I agree; to me, the entity known as Skully has always looked a bit like something with a skull painted on it, being held up to a peep hole. It's got the fisheye lens look, when I look at it.

The problem with TTA's responses is always that it's hard to parse out what's important imagery and what's imagery for the sake of atmosphere. See the figure in the drawing in "Intermission" - we don't know if it's meant to be someone specific or just a figure meant to look creepy. Same way with Skully.

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Randoman96 wrote:
That is a really poor way of looking at things. Of course it's important, in some way! It's another person in a mask. Even if it isn't important now, there is the best chance it's GOING to be.

By that logic, Jay never really talked much about the key early on in season two. I guess we can just disregard that it exists now.

If it appears like that as that, it deserves to be analyzed.

And also, you're telling me that Skully isn't deserving of being analyzed, and yet we had like six people fussing over a root that looked like a deformed leg like it was TTA.


I didn't agree with the tree root being over-anyalzed either, not that it makes any difference. The idea of comparing something like the key found in Jay's duffel at the beginning of season 2 and something as fleeting as the flash of the "Skully" mask is nonsensical.

The mask we saw in entry 26 (for less than a second, mind you) does not require the same legitimate attention as one of the main characters saying, "HEY GUYS! Look at this key that I'm very deliberately showing you for future reference." It's really easy for writers to over look little details when when you're busy with other things, and working on overdrive to produce a story for a demanding fan base. Skully may, and quite possibly could end up getting lost in the story. Other than MH, I can't really determine Troy's skill as a writer. Experienced writers don't bring up/show something that might end up getting lost in the mix. I have no idea how experienced he is. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt... but I digress.

Skully is hardly enough for the occasional mention, let alone to believe that it is a stand alone character. The more important something is, the more airtime it gets. This simple idea of economy in film is what has lead Marble Hornets to be so successful.

Do I believe the mask will produce something in the future? Yes...

Do I believe it'll be as big a deal as people are making it out to be? No.

Furthermore, just because my idea is different than yours does not make it a "poor way of looking at things". Obviously I'm coherent enough to formulate my own opinion, and it's worth just as much as anyone else here...

[NOTE: edited out my personal opinion at the end because it wasn't required. But for the record, I won't deal with someone claiming my, or anyone's ideas are poor. They're not... they're just different.]

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Randoman96 wrote:
That is a really poor way of looking at things. Of course it's important, in some way! It's another person in a mask. Even if it isn't important now, there is the best chance it's GOING to be.

By that logic, Jay never really talked much about the key early on in season two. I guess we can just disregard that it exists now.

If it appears like that as that, it deserves to be analyzed.

And also, you're telling me that Skully isn't deserving of being analyzed, and yet we had like six people fussing over a root that looked like a deformed leg like it was TTA.


Can you remind me what key you're talking about?

At first I thought that Skully was just another mask that Tim was wearing, but watching that tiny segment, it looks more like a painting or something that's being held up to the camera.

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Timur wrote:
when I watch that video, I still have difficulty telling if it is actually another person in a mask; I mean, its not like the video in particular is very clear on that. Altogether, I'm not against the idea of it, but I don't think its a solid fact; its a distorted image that is on for a few seconds, and while it is possible that it is a masked bandito, I'd hardly add it to the official MH cast. There is no way to truly prove skully's existance or lack of existence until either skully appears, more evidence is given, or the series ends. So no one should be pressing for others to go one way or another, as its just one of those occurances where it is imposible to determine what we truly were looking at.


This. There is absolutely no way to tell if there's any significance at all until we get further information. None of those disjointed clips at the beginning of the mystery tape made any sense. The skull mask could be a red herring added for creepiness, or it could be another masky. But there's no evidence to back up either theory.

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Yuki wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
That is a really poor way of looking at things. Of course it's important, in some way! It's another person in a mask. Even if it isn't important now, there is the best chance it's GOING to be.

By that logic, Jay never really talked much about the key early on in season two. I guess we can just disregard that it exists now.

If it appears like that as that, it deserves to be analyzed.

And also, you're telling me that Skully isn't deserving of being analyzed, and yet we had like six people fussing over a root that looked like a deformed leg like it was TTA.


Can you remind me what key you're talking about?

At first I thought that Skully was just another mask that Tim was wearing, but watching that tiny segment, it looks more like a painting or something that's being held up to the camera.


When Jay was looking through a duffel bag he found in his room there was some ibuprofen, a key and a couple of other objects that he didn't remember collecting. It was only a couple episodes into season two... can't remember off the top of my head.

Chances are they pertain to something but it's impossible to tell right now. Sad...

Oh well, at least speculation hasn't lost its fun.

[EDIT: it's Entry 28]

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 		Tao, I wasn't claiming your opinions weren't important or invalid or anything like that. I'm just saying, I don't think you guys should dismiss the skully scene like you are. Something like an entirely different mask does not a red herring make.

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Unless the writers want to be dicks, in which case, yes it does.

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Tao wrote:
Yuki wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
That is a really poor way of looking at things. Of course it's important, in some way! It's another person in a mask. Even if it isn't important now, there is the best chance it's GOING to be.

By that logic, Jay never really talked much about the key early on in season two. I guess we can just disregard that it exists now.

If it appears like that as that, it deserves to be analyzed.

And also, you're telling me that Skully isn't deserving of being analyzed, and yet we had like six people fussing over a root that looked like a deformed leg like it was TTA.


Can you remind me what key you're talking about?

At first I thought that Skully was just another mask that Tim was wearing, but watching that tiny segment, it looks more like a painting or something that's being held up to the camera.


When Jay was looking through a duffel bag he found in his room there was some ibuprofen, a key and a couple of other objects that he didn't remember collecting. It was only a couple episodes into season two... can't remember off the top of my head.

Chances are they pertain to something but it's impossible to tell right now. Sad...

Oh well, at least speculation hasn't lost its fun.

[EDIT: it's Entry 28]


Huh. For some reason I'd thought it was the key to the hotel room or something, when I first watched it. It looks like a house key.

That being said, it is focused on a lot more than Skully...

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Randoman96 wrote:
Tao, I wasn't claiming your opinions weren't important or invalid or anything like that. I'm just saying, I don't think you guys should dismiss the skully scene like you are. Something like an entirely different mask does not a red herring make.

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Unless the writers want to be dicks, in which case, yes it does.


Of course, it should't be dismissed, but I think its a but of a leap going from the footage to the assumption that there is an entirely different masked other. I mean, its worth keeping in mind as a possibility, and it isnt like the footage should be ignored, but at the same time many people are right to be skeptic at such major assumptions from so little and so vague.

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Tao wrote:
WhyYouBawwing wrote:
onetruepurple wrote:
Skully:

- 5 seconds of screen time in what's about an hour of footage at this point
- seen only in the distorted video in entry #26
- not once acknowledged by Jay
- too grainy to see if it's even a mask
- less meaning than the doll in #18 and #23
- not relevant

Are you one of the viewers who go by the rule "screentime=the only way to be important?"


"Skully" as he's been nicknamed was hardly even acknowledged in the videos and there's been no twitter/story reference of him/it/whatever since. Rampant speculation has made this a part of the story when it might never end up being one. I seriously have a hard time believing that anyone is still rooting for the existence of this character.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there's four people/entities we should really be focused on: Jay, Alex, TiMasky, and Mr. S...

And who knows, Masky is a pretty fashion conscious young man in his yellow bomber jacket, maybe he just wanted to switch things up with a new mask. XD!

I kid, of course. I for one think it was something spooky that was inserted just to scare us a little bit. I don't think it was ever meant for this level of analysis of belief.

There's also been hardly no mention of Brian or any other MH cast members except Alex in quite some time, yet people continue to consider them extremely important so I fail to see how Skully's importance is lessened simply because of the amount of episodes it was featured in.

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