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[VIDEO] enttry #37
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Kilo
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sonicmax wrote:
mokie wrote:
chickenburger wrote:
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What about entry 35? I don't see any motivation for him to be a fake TTA.


That proves he's the masked man, but not that the masked man is totheark.


entry 19 & the totheark response kind of imply this though. both that tim is the masked figure in that video, and then TTA uploaded part of the missing 3 hours which implies that tim is TTA (unless someone else set up the camera for the TTA response- hard to know for sure i guess, but it's a far stretch that both tim and someone else were at J's house that night)


The thing is, though, TTA wasn't at Jay's house that night. It seems like TTA knew Jay would show up at the house, and recorded him being there. What Mask was doing at his house is a complete mystery.

Honestly, I think the biggest argument against TTA being Tim is Messages- why feature his own face in a video response when he goes through such lengths to keep it hidden?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:49 am
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Susil
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I have a question that might be crucial...


Is the Operator in this scene?

Obviously we see him, that's not the issue. I mean, is he physically there? Its just his presence is, as far as I can tell, only in those few seconds of distortion. I'll try and break down each side of the argument as I see it...

He's there: Well, if the Operator was at kid-Alex's birthday, we can safely say he's been stalked for much longer than the MH filming time. It might also point to the possibility of the Operator time travelling. The questions that this raises have been brought up and discussed already - things like why Alex, how does he escape for so long, etc.

He's not really there: This implies a lot more than has been discussed, I think. We can be pretty sure this video has been edited, with the symbol over little Alex's face. So, can we be sure that the Operator is part of this scene at all? Because if he's not, then a lot of the 'stalked since childhood' theories become a lot less solid.

Questions:

1. Have we ever seen the Operator turn up amongst the distortion like this before? The closest I can think of is at the end of 23 - mostly when we see him he's obviously in the scene as a physical presence.

2. How much have camcorders changed since the early '90s? (I've never owned one). I ask this because would the original tape that this was filmed on compat with the current cameras the MH guys have been using? If it was originally on a different format, then it must have been deliberately written to one of the tapes Jay found - assuming, of course, that it came from them. I wonder... if the tape formats are the same, might it be that Alex accidentally (or deliberately) used an old tape from his parents to record on. And that if the operator was caught on the tape on another occasion it sort of... corrupted all the footage. Many people suggested after entry 26 that cameras that have captured the operator somehow carry his essence. If the same is true of tapes, perhaps what we are seeing is not the Operator at Alex's party, but footage that is become more and more corrupted by something else recorded.

3. Is there a... human explaination here? Skwid put forward a good case for it not being Jay's work. If it is TTA's doing, keep in mind that some of their videos carry quite a threatening tone. Perhaps this is a video made as some sort of threat. I'd be pretty worried if somebody uploaded decade-old family video that I'd not given them. If this video came directly from Alex's parents, is it suggesting they're in danger now too?


Argh. Far too much speculation.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:24 am
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chickenburger
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det slanke mannen wrote:
Has anyone been trying to get something out of the audio during the first half of the video?
I tried playing it backwards to see if I recognise the melody then, nothing though, now trying to see if the notes are code or anything, but it's weird..
Anyone else have anything on that?

Have you figured out what the second, faster layer of notes are under the main one? That's what I'm trying to d right now but it's hard haha.

EDIT: I don't think it holds any significance, it just sounds like tense horror movie music (the kind they'd use in a scene if someone was going insane).

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shonkie wrote:

Sep 4th, 1991
-10:48 am


OH SHIT THATS THE DAY I WAS BORN Shocked Silly

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sp103
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Well that's a strange entTry.

I try to not to over analyze Marble Hornets, so with the tweets beforehand I think this video was uploaded by TTA or the Operator himself to show Alex has been a constant victim or part of his life. Nice little spin on the story.

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Oscar Langley
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Wait, wasn't there a regular VHS tape in the entry where J opened the safe? I remember seeing one and thinking it was odd. If there was one, that may be the tape this entry came from. My family had a circa '91 camera when I was little and that's the kind of tape it took.

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7thhouse
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I'm totally new to the Slendy myth, Marble Hornets, etc. I have read every single page (it has taken me two days!) of this thread and since I'm new, maybe it has given me a, uhm, fresh perspective? If none of this makes any sense, feel free to ignore. Smile

What if Slendy is a family affair? What if Slendy is passed, father-to-son, for generations? Maybe Alex's dad WAS a Slender Man, and his son was supposed to find victims? The birthday present young Alex is opening has Slender Man-type pictures on it, and if you look veeery carefully it looks like he is playing with the head of the Slender-doll still in the package. What if this is the birthday Alex's dad passed Slender-powers on to his boy? Then something happened and Alex "forgot" his Slender duties… After videotaping himself and seeing dear old Slender-Dad stalking him as a reminder of what he should be doing, maybe he tried to forget again, or run away from his duties?

(What prompted me along this thought line: Someone mentioned Jessica being Alex's sister. Someone else mentioned the deep "singing" voice was the Operator. Someone else mentioned dad/grandpa bringing Slendy back from a war. Someone else mentioned people "becoming" Slendy, or that there are more than one of Slender Man. And still another person mentioned Alex finding Slender-victims for Slendy.)

Don't know if any of that makes any sense, but I thought it was a fun theory. Smile

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I think that there is SOME signifigance to some of the dates. Maybe not all, but some of them.

Also I really don't know how people are getting that the singing is the Operator. That just sounds really stupid to me...

I DO have a genuine theory for this post however. I don't personally think it's true, but it was just a thought.

The woman next to Alex (his mother?) waves away someone off camera, and Alex looks at it and gets the (X) symbol on his face.
Is it possible that off-camera, the Operator really does have a face and appears normal, it's just when recorded he doesn't have one.

Maybe that's how he stays anonymous in a way. His face can change and adapt to be a different person if need be.

This could also be a part of the whole "Slendy hates cameras" thing.

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Skwid wrote:
So I'm still heavily under the impression that enttry 37 is a TTA post....

I personally think this lends evidence to Jay=TTA.

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Something to consider:

Jay tweeted that he was about to upload entry #37 but YouTube didn't let him - this implies that the entry was finished and ready to go.

'enttry #37' doesn't have the title card or the usual commentary at the beginning, it's just the raw footage.

Where did the real entry #37 go?

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Kilo wrote:
Honestly, I think the biggest argument against TTA being Tim is Messages- why feature his own face in a video response when he goes through such lengths to keep it hidden?


He is a [both of them are] highly disturbed psychopath(s) with little or no motivation behind violent and manipulative actions. You expect his behavior to be logical?

As far as motivation, all we know is that totheark wants to be led to "the ark", which we don't even know actually exists let alone what it is.

Oh, and did I say he wants to be led there? We don't even know that. All we know is that [the person who posted Entry ######] told Jay, "...you will lead me to the ark," which can be interpreted as a statement or a command.


Sad

... You can tell I suck at this; I spend more time saying, "We don't know that for sure." than contributing actual theories...

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onetruepurple wrote:
Something to consider:

Jay tweeted that he was about to upload entry #37 but YouTube didn't let him - this implies that the entry was finished and ready to go.

'enttry #37' doesn't have the title card or the usual commentary at the beginning, it's just the raw footage.

Where did the real entry #37 go?


Not to mention that when he tweeted the link, he was missing the traditional "Entry ##:" that precedes it.

Something tells me that Jay didn't upload this. And that he isn't awake yet.

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Zaden wrote:
... You can tell I suck at this; I spend more time saying, "We don't know that for sure." than contributing actual theories...

Pfft, I don't think it means you suck at this. I think it means you're wise enough to realize that there's no way we'll ever KNOW anything in this series that they don't decide to outright tell us. I think it's good to put a reminder out there now and then that none of these theories are written in stone...

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Randoman96 wrote:
The woman next to Alex (his mother?) waves away someone off camera, and Alex looks at it and gets the (X) symbol on his face.

Watch the video again. I'm 80% sure she's swatting a bug.
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Is it possible that off-camera, the Operator really does have a face and appears normal, it's just when recorded he doesn't have one.
That's actually been my personal theory about Slender Man for a long time.

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It probably doesn't matter, but can anyone tell what Alex's present is? To me it looks a lot like a container that a LEGO Bionicle comes in. It is even the right size and shape. However, the first Bionicles came out in 2000, so either I'm wrong, or this is another small error.

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