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Kilo wrote:
The biggest problem with Jay being TTA is... well, it's a couple of things:

Exit: Jay is filmed by TTA going to Alex's car. Now, granted, this is old footage, so it's totally possible that it could've been handed to Jay at some point.

Addition: TTA films Jay while he's in the house, having a coughing fit.

Return: The camera moves. First it's a close-up shot of Jay's face, and then it's farther down the hall.

The only way I can see a theory of Jay being TTA working is if the camera man just records Jay at very specific times when TTA tells him to, and then he somehow gets the footage to TTA and he uploads, all while Jay is blacked out or whatever.


Exit : Didn't Alex give Jay all his old footage at the start of all this? Or am I missing something... Confused

Addition : Are we sure that's Jay having the coughing fit? Couldn't it be Alex or even Tim? Again, apologies if I'm missing something! However, that would fit with the 'SEE YOU' comment (if I believe that Jay is tta that is). I can't actually remember which entry this was a reply to, so please feel free to point me in the right direction and I will rewatch if I'm totally off course!

Return : I'll admit, I have no explanation for this in my theory as I can't place this in my time-line of events at the moment.

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Aperion wrote:
Spacechicken wrote:

It probably doesn't matter, but can anyone tell what Alex's present is? To me it looks a lot like a container that a LEGO Bionicle comes in. It is even the right size and shape. However, the first Bionicles came out in 2000, so either I'm wrong, or this is another small error.

It's a jar of skippy peanut butter
Alex's parents suck that's why he grows up to be a picture scribbling, leg smashing, self recording psycho he just wanted one non perishable birthday gift
and now it's too late.


^THIS

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 		WALL OF TEXT TIME PRESENTED BY YOUR LOCAL GAMES DESIGNER: HUNTEEEEEERRRRERIIIIISSSS!!! *Crowd goes wild*

Thank you, thank you. Now. Just getting this out there since it's being discussed.

I think TTA is Tim and I have no idea why people are thinking Alex could be TTA. That maks no sense and I see no real evidence towards it. I see evidence of Alex not quite being the tradgic victim we thought he was, but not him as TTA.

I first watched Marble Hornets right after season 1 ended. All in one go following the wiki's suggested viewing order (which is a God-send, thanks to whoever first came up with the idea). Even if I later think back that it could be Seth or Brian, it just still feels like Tim, or at least the Masked character who I wasn't sure on at the time but suspected was Tim.

The huge gap in his activity [speculation] could have been him getting his leg healed up. Only after he felt better did he start making videos and going directly after J again as Masky. Heck, for all we know he was laid out and on pain killers until where he started making posts on J's twitter.

As for Alex being TTA, what do we have? He possibly [speculation] sent that video that could have been recorded over old footage left over from the original shoot and added that ending card that said HELP in his scribble writing? So little evidence.

Plus in Entry 26 he was shocked to see the camera. You can see it in his face and the way he talks. I don't think that TTA would have been shocked. Plus, his girlfriend says that he's acting odd, meaning that he normally isn't paranoid, meaning [speculation] he was probably (mostly) balanced.

Even if you can look at the newer material containing Alex and say that it's evidence to him being TTA, during season 1 he just had no motive to get involved in J's life. Even if he knew that J was posting his old footage online, he would have the attitude of "If he doesn't point the camera at me, I won't see Him again."

Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.

tl;dr Tim has far more evidence of being TTA than any other character. J having Multiple Personality Disorder and being TTA has more evidence than Alex.

OOG:
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The way MH was written in series 1 was all over the place and they admitted that. Chances are they always meant Tim to be TTA and by Entry 26 it was too late to go back on.

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HunterEris wrote:

OOG:

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The way MH was written in series 1 was all over the place and they admitted that. Chances are they always meant Tim to be TTA and by Entry 26 it was too late to go back on.


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I feel like this is probably good OOG evidence to support that. No disrespect to Troy and Joseph, but they said that a lot of what they did in Season 1 was made up as they went, so they may not have been as creative with the plot twists as they are now.

Granted, they still have the ability to change anything, but I believe they said they pretty much stuck to the basic ideas from the begining.

But even then, knowing all that, Seth or Brian could very well be TTA.


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HunterEris wrote:
Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.[/spoiler]


Hmm this actually supports my theory of Jay being tta. Tims secret = that he's masky. Jay's secret = that he's tta.

I guess I'm too much in love with the idea of Jay being tta and Alex being a manipulated pawn.

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kiwistar wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.[/spoiler]


Hmm this actually supports my theory of Jay being tta. Tims secret = that he's masky. Jay's secret = that he's tta.

I guess I'm too much in love with the idea of Jay being tta and Alex being a manipulated pawn.


I believe the "secret" was that he was recording himself.

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kiwistar wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.[/spoiler]


Hmm this actually supports my theory of Jay being tta. Tims secret = that he's masky. Jay's secret = that he's tta.

I guess I'm too much in love with the idea of Jay being tta and Alex being a manipulated pawn.


I was talking about him filming himself, but it works in that context too.
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kiwistar wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.[/spoiler]


Hmm this actually supports my theory of Jay being tta. Tims secret = that he's masky. Jay's secret = that he's tta.

I guess I'm too much in love with the idea of Jay being tta and Alex being a manipulated pawn.


This whole thing is centered around Alex. He's not a pawn, he and slendy are in control of this whole game.

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Alchimiste wrote:
kiwistar wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.[/spoiler]


Hmm this actually supports my theory of Jay being tta. Tims secret = that he's masky. Jay's secret = that he's tta.

I guess I'm too much in love with the idea of Jay being tta and Alex being a manipulated pawn.


This whole thing is centered around Alex. He's not a pawn, he and slendy are in control of this whole game.


I don't agree. Alex/SM seem to be our antagonists, sure. This whole thing began because of Alex. But we are following Jay's journey (and descent), not Alex's.

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kiwistar wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
kiwistar wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.[/spoiler]


Hmm this actually supports my theory of Jay being tta. Tims secret = that he's masky. Jay's secret = that he's tta.

I guess I'm too much in love with the idea of Jay being tta and Alex being a manipulated pawn.


This whole thing is centered around Alex. He's not a pawn, he and slendy are in control of this whole game.


I don't agree. Alex/SM seem to be our antagonists, sure. This whole thing began because of Alex. But we are following Jay's journey (and descent), not Alex's.



I'm still trying to figure out if Tim is a protagonist or an Antagonist. When I first watched the series, it seemed to me like he was trying to protect Jay from something. Now I'm not too sure.

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Alchimiste wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out if Tim is a protagonist or an Antagonist. When I first watched the series, it seemed to me like he was trying to protect Jay from something. Now I'm not too sure.


I'm thinking that while Tim does attack J on their first meeting, he seems to need J for something important (being led to the Ark).

I think that he may be a protagonist so long as you are viewing Alex as the bad guy. Look at it like this [Antagonist > Protagonist]:

Slender Man > Alex > Tim > Jay

Man, if that turns out to be correct then J is in touble unless he can get on Tim's side.
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HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out if Tim is a protagonist or an Antagonist. When I first watched the series, it seemed to me like he was trying to protect Jay from something. Now I'm not too sure.


I'm thinking that while Tim does attack J on their first meeting, he seems to need J for something important (being led to the Ark).

I think that he may be a protagonist so long as you are viewing Alex as the bad guy. Look at it like this [Antagonist > Protagonist]:

Slender Man > Alex > Tim > Jay

Man, if that turns out to be correct then J is in touble unless he can get on Tim's side.


I was watching all the entries again. The entry where Alex and Seth are in the abandoned house, why do they keep looking at that boiler?

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Alchimiste wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out if Tim is a protagonist or an Antagonist. When I first watched the series, it seemed to me like he was trying to protect Jay from something. Now I'm not too sure.


I'm thinking that while Tim does attack J on their first meeting, he seems to need J for something important (being led to the Ark).

I think that he may be a protagonist so long as you are viewing Alex as the bad guy. Look at it like this [Antagonist > Protagonist]:

Slender Man > Alex > Tim > Jay

Man, if that turns out to be correct then J is in touble unless he can get on Tim's side.


I was watching all the entries again. The entry where Alex and Seth are in the abandoned house, why do they keep looking at that boiler?


Not really sure on that. Think they hear a noise at 2:32, though. Guess it's paranoia.
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HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out if Tim is a protagonist or an Antagonist. When I first watched the series, it seemed to me like he was trying to protect Jay from something. Now I'm not too sure.


I'm thinking that while Tim does attack J on their first meeting, he seems to need J for something important (being led to the Ark).

I think that he may be a protagonist so long as you are viewing Alex as the bad guy. Look at it like this [Antagonist > Protagonist]:

Slender Man > Alex > Tim > Jay

Man, if that turns out to be correct then J is in touble unless he can get on Tim's side.


I was watching all the entries again. The entry where Alex and Seth are in the abandoned house, why do they keep looking at that boiler?


Not really sure on that. Think they hear a noise at 2:32, though. Guess it's paranoia.


So whats that blood doing on the wall?

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Alchimiste wrote:
So whats that blood doing on the wall?


We don't actually know anything about that place yet, I believe.

And this is going way off topic. Maybe you should read the Entry 22 thread if there is one? There might be answers there.
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