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Alchimiste wrote:
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I'm still trying to figure out if Tim is a protagonist or an Antagonist. When I first watched the series, it seemed to me like he was trying to protect Jay from something. Now I'm not too sure.


I'm thinking that while Tim does attack J on their first meeting, he seems to need J for something important (being led to the Ark).

I think that he may be a protagonist so long as you are viewing Alex as the bad guy. Look at it like this [Antagonist > Protagonist]:

Slender Man > Alex > Tim > Jay

Man, if that turns out to be correct then J is in touble unless he can get on Tim's side.


I was watching all the entries again. The entry where Alex and Seth are in the abandoned house, why do they keep looking at that boiler?


'Cause that's a damn fine boiler.

(And Operator or one of his victims might be in there. )

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HunterEris wrote:
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So whats that blood doing on the wall?


We don't actually know anything about that place yet, I believe.

And this is going way off topic. Maybe you should read the Entry 22 thread if there is one? There might be answers there.


Alright, back to 37.

So this shows that this all kind of happened when Alex was a child?

Something distorted the video, but it isn't the usual tear.

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Alchimiste wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
So whats that blood doing on the wall?


We don't actually know anything about that place yet, I believe.

And this is going way off topic. Maybe you should read the Entry 22 thread if there is one? There might be answers there.


Alright, back to 37.

So this shows that this all kind of happened when Alex was a child?

Something distorted the video, but it isn't the usual tear.


There seem to be two main theories about this video. I follow the first (not 1.5).

1: Slendy has been stalking Alex since he was a child. This leaves the question of why did he do nothing until Alex was filming Marble Hornets.

1.5: Slendy can time travel and started stalking Alex when he was filming MH, then went back to stalk him as a child.

2: Slendy does not appeear in this video and it is just a video of Alex's 6th birthday party that has been edited.

The video has definitely been edited as Alex has the Operator Symbol on his face at one point.
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HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
So whats that blood doing on the wall?


We don't actually know anything about that place yet, I believe.

And this is going way off topic. Maybe you should read the Entry 22 thread if there is one? There might be answers there.


Alright, back to 37.

So this shows that this all kind of happened when Alex was a child?

Something distorted the video, but it isn't the usual tear.


There seem to be two main theories about this video. I follow the first (not 1.5).

1: Slendy has been stalking Alex since he was a child. This leaves the question of why did he do nothing until Alex was filming Marble Hornets.

1.5: Slendy can time travel and started stalking Alex when he was filming MH, then went back to stalk him as a child.

2: Slendy does not appeear in this video and it is just a video of Alex's 6th birthday party that has been edited.

The video has definitely been edited as Alex has the Operator Symbol on his face at one point.


Perhaps Alex edited it to show Jay just how long Slender man has been stalking him?

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HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
So whats that blood doing on the wall?


We don't actually know anything about that place yet, I believe.

And this is going way off topic. Maybe you should read the Entry 22 thread if there is one? There might be answers there.


Alright, back to 37.

So this shows that this all kind of happened when Alex was a child?

Something distorted the video, but it isn't the usual tear.


There seem to be two main theories about this video. I follow the first (not 1.5).

1: Slendy has been stalking Alex since he was a child. This leaves the question of why did he do nothing until Alex was filming Marble Hornets.

1.5: Slendy can time travel and started stalking Alex when he was filming MH, then went back to stalk him as a child.

2: Slendy does not appeear in this video and it is just a video of Alex's 6th birthday party that has been edited.

The video has definitely been edited as Alex has the Operator Symbol on his face at one point.


My theory for #1 and 1.5 is that Alex has been stalked since he was a child, he simply forgot/repressed the memories of it. Following the "forgot it" theory is the fact that Slendy stopped stalking him for a while until he "remembered" Slendy in #26.

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 		We don't exactly know who uploaded this video.

J: It is possible, as indicated by the name of the video and his tweetpocalypse, but we still can't be sure.

TTA: Likely the one who edited the video. It's entirely possible that the name of the video is a taunt to do with the tweetpocalypse. Also, J couldn't remember his password, but that could mean that TTA has hacked the account and changed the password.

Alex: The description of memories points to him, but it could be a taunt from TTA.

All evidence points to either Slendy-Trance J or TTA, with very little to go on for Alex. With Slendy-Trance J. I don't know how he would have gotten this video originally, but I think it was edited before it went in the safe.

For TTA, I again don't know how he would have gotten the video but it looks like his kind of edits and him just trolling along.

Staabula: Should have mentioned the forgot/remembered theory in my summing up of theory 1. It does seem like a good theory, but I think cameras are more of a clue.
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 		The part about Jay being TTA that doesn't gel with me is why the hell would Jay need to take himself To The Ark?

If the Ark wasn't a place but a state of enlightenment or something I guess it could work. Or if TTA'd Jay couldn't enter the place and only normal Jay could smuggle him in... but in context both of those seem VERY stupid.

Now... there is the possibility that Tim posted ##### to try and mimic TTA as best he could, figured taking someone to the Ark was TTA's goal and wanted in on some of that, but it just seems like a lot of wasted effort when he already appears able to kidnap Jay and just do whatever.

Addition also features a moving camera watching Jay (assuming that is Jay and not someone impersonating Jay (that is a lot of clothing...)).

Jay=Alex theories are... okay... there are still holes but I'm not going to write another diatribe tonight.

Now, as for this. Yeah, I could see Jay just wanting to blow off editing this crap since just looking at it gives him a headache. I can also see TTA getting into his account.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I mean, I can even see him just being dead now, leaving us with a non-ending since there is no goddamn way to end this series in a satisfying manner, in my opinion. If Troy can do it though, he deserves some applause.


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HunterEris wrote:
We don't exactly know who uploaded this video.

J: It is possible, as indicated by the name of the video and his tweetpocalypse, but we still can't be sure.

TTA: Likely the one who edited the video. It's entirely possible that the name of the video is a taunt to do with the tweetpocalypse. Also, J couldn't remember his password, but that could mean that TTA has hacked the account and changed the password.

Alex: The description of memories points to him, but it could be a taunt from TTA.

All evidence points to either Slendy-Trance J or TTA, with very little to go on for Alex. With Slendy-Trance J. I don't know how he would have gotten this video originally, but I think it was edited before it went in the safe.

For TTA, I again don't know how he would have gotten the video but it looks like his kind of edits and him just trolling along.

Staabula: Should have mentioned the forgot/remembered theory in my summing up of theory 1. It does seem like a good theory, but I think cameras are more of a clue.


Well 37 was apart of the cache of tapes Jay got out of the safe, and I don't think we can really speculate anything more until the next entry of the seven months he forgot. Which I suspect is going to be around april 4th.

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Entry #38 is 'Gimme $20?

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theonewhoquestions wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I mean, I can even see him just being dead now, leaving us with a non-ending since there is no goddamn way to end this series in a satisfying manner, in my opinion. If Troy can do it though, he deserves some applause.


I agree with your TTA = J stuff. I don't like it either. There are huge holes in it.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Troy can do it. It'll end with TTA being sorted out and away with the Ark either used to get rid of Slendy or being broken. Slendy with back off and leave them alone. I do think that Alex kinda has to die at some point. He may already be dead with noentry.


Alchimiste wrote:
Well 37 was apart of the cache of tapes Jay got out of the safe, and I don't think we can really speculate anything more until the next entry of the seven months he forgot. Which I suspect is going to be around april 4th.


Until it is revealed who posted it, we cannot garuntee that the tape was in the safe.
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HunterEris wrote:
Even if you can look at the newer material containing Alex and say that it's evidence to him being TTA, during season 1 he just had no motive to get involved in J's life. Even if he knew that J was posting his old footage online, he would have the attitude of "If he doesn't point the camera at me, I won't see Him again."

Hell, in Messages, TTA says that J is keeping secrets then shows a picture of Tim in a "I've told you my secret, now tell them yours" kind of way.


Agreed on the first point--if anything, re-introduced Alex looked peeved to have been dragged back into this mess. On the second, looking at the whole video as a hint to check his recording, it could also just be TTA teasing Jay or trying to clue him in, which would suggest that TTA knew Masky was Tim all along.

To drag this kicking and screaming back to the topic...

Whether the figure was edited into the tape or not, the Operator symbol was. Correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from Warning, I don't recall the symbol showing up in TTA's videos, and, as the wiki points out, Warning isn't consistent with TTA's style and caused some speculation itself. It is consistent with the mysterious Entry ######, which (like Warning) features Masky prominently, and has that whole 'you will lead me to the ark/you will lead me, totheark' thing going on. The symbol is very much associated with Alex, and with Masky, but not with TTA. (No, really, correct me if I'm wrong.)

It makes me doubt that TTA had anything to do with #37, but Masky did give Jay plenty of time to load up tapes before chasing him out of the hotel, and that, with (what I interpret as) the aforementioned nudge to check his tapes and clue that Masky is Tim, puts me more firmly in the TTA=not-Tim camp.

So, if this wasn't uploaded by migraine-addled Jay, then I'm thinking it was Masky, again making jabs at Alex.

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The biggest problem with Jay being TTA is... well, it's a couple of things:

Exit: Jay is filmed by TTA going to Alex's car. Now, granted, this is old footage, so it's totally possible that it could've been handed to Jay at some point.

Addition: TTA films Jay while he's in the house, having a coughing fit.

Return: The camera moves. First it's a close-up shot of Jay's face, and then it's farther down the hall.

The only way I can see a theory of Jay being TTA working is if the camera man just records Jay at very specific times when TTA tells him to, and then he somehow gets the footage to TTA and he uploads, all while Jay is blacked out or whatever.


Exit : Didn't Alex give Jay all his old footage at the start of all this? Or am I missing something... Confused

Addition : Are we sure that's Jay having the coughing fit? Couldn't it be Alex or even Tim? Again, apologies if I'm missing something! However, that would fit with the 'SEE YOU' comment (if I believe that Jay is tta that is). I can't actually remember which entry this was a reply to, so please feel free to point me in the right direction and I will rewatch if I'm totally off course!

Return : I'll admit, I have no explanation for this in my theory as I can't place this in my time-line of events at the moment.


Exit: He did give him all the old footage, however, that would have to mean that Alex is the one that recorded Jay. It's totally possible, mind you. Alex could've easily recorded him during the cut, they did their thing, and Jay left and then Alex encountered the Operator. However, to my knowledge, there's only one car present, and Jay would've had to stumble upon the footage by sheer luck to see it and upload it as TTA. You can starting delving into elaborate schemes that he saw the video as Jay and then it sent him into a TTA trance and he uploaded it and forgot about it and went on with his life.

Addition: Yea, it's totally possible. But it's a video response to Entry 16, when Jay first explored the house. He had his coughing fit in the hallway, and that's where the footage is from. I mean, in order to get that footage and have the coughing person be someone that isn't Jay, that would require a lot of elaborate staging and cooperation from other folks, or Jay just happened to have a camera handy and happened to catch someone else, having a coughing fit in the same hallway, with a flashlight.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but Jay seems to be the person that's least likely to be TTA, because of those examples. Sarah, Seth, and Tim are all very much more likely to be TTA.

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 		Mokie: I dunno, I think it's all very typical of TTA.

Look at Exit, Addition, Signal, Warning, Admission and Entry #####. They all seem like they were made by the same person.

TTA, to me, has two styles. And I'm suspecting that one style is without the mask on and the other is Masked. Think of it as Coded videos and Symbolic videos.

Coded: Regards, Operator, Deluge, Impurity, Program, Advocate, Version, Attention, Sidetone

Symbolic: Exit, Addition, Signal, Messages, Return, Admission, Warning, Entry #####, Fragments, Broadcast

I believe there was a code in the lights flickering in Deluge (?) which makes it Coded, not Symbolic. Coincidentally, there are an equal number as of Sidetone if you discount Entry #####
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HunterEris wrote:
Alchimiste wrote:
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Alchimiste wrote:
So whats that blood doing on the wall?


We don't actually know anything about that place yet, I believe.

And this is going way off topic. Maybe you should read the Entry 22 thread if there is one? There might be answers there.


Alright, back to 37.

So this shows that this all kind of happened when Alex was a child?

Something distorted the video, but it isn't the usual tear.


There seem to be two main theories about this video. I follow the first (not 1.5).

1: Slendy has been stalking Alex since he was a child. This leaves the question of why did he do nothing until Alex was filming Marble Hornets.

1.5: Slendy can time travel and started stalking Alex when he was filming MH, then went back to stalk him as a child.

2: Slendy does not appeear in this video and it is just a video of Alex's 6th birthday party that has been edited.

The video has definitely been edited as Alex has the Operator Symbol on his face at one point.


My take on #1 is that Slendy can only be seen on camera (or only seen while he's being recorded). So Alex was always being stalked, but didn't notice until he started filming all the time. Entry #9 is the first instance we can see of Slendy (chronologically), and no-one seems weirded out by him at all, they just ask him to move.

So, Alex has always been stalked by Slendy, who would have just blended into the background or appeared as a normal person until he started seeing how he really looked on camera. This adds a whole new layer to the moments when he appears right in front of the camera - what does the cameraman actually see? Just a normal looking guy appearing out of nowhere in a dark, empty house? That's almost scarier.

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 		I'm kinda going with the Slendy went back in time or the video's edited theories. While the 'stalked since he was a child' theory makes sense, I just can't see why he wouldn't say anything. And if he forgot, why would he start remembering as soon as he started filming?

And it almost seems too default, too cliché for them to do. Leaning towards the edited theory, which while it's not as exciting makes the most sense IMO.

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