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[META] Our Slender Universe. Or is it Universes?
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zbeeblebrox
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[META] Our Slender Universe. Or is it Universes?

I've often wondered what the general opinion is around here regarding how different Slender Series interact, even the ones that don't specifically interact with each other via crossovers or name-dropping (a practice that has notably increased lately). I've been wondering about that moreso ever since Trailhead Troll's thread

Since the first, eh, "side story" appeared following Marble Hornets, I preferred to imagine everything taking place a coherent universe, much like the one you would need to assume exists in order to watch those playlists without going crazy. That made sense to me. Even if the mythology between two vlogs didn't quite match, it was still easier to swallow that there was only one (or one species of) entity fitting Slenderman's description who did exactly what Slenderman did and who caused psychological effects and video effects exactly the way Slenderman does. But that's just me. I know there may be some people here who find that odd, and maybe even frown on the crossovers that have already happened, desiring instead to rest assured that every series is an isolated incident occurring within its own universe. And I can understand that sentiment, since that gives creators leave to do whatever they want to really create unexpected and surprising events, but it seems a bit unwieldy.

Of course many more of you take a more complicated view, I am sure. You see some series as sharing a universe, while others are isolated and unique. This sounds like a lot of extra mental work to me, but it's probably the most rational in the long run. Assuming we can reconcile everything. That's the big hurdle.

But if it's a hurdle we can overcome, the results might be useful to future series, for deciding how to move forward: they can just glance at our list and see that Universe B contains series X and Y, made by people near enough geographically to work with, and that they should avoid mentioning popular series Z as a real thing because it's happening in Universe C. That would be a very useful resource...potentially. Or a big mess full of holes and irregularities and split timelines that nobody can agree on, but let's not dwell on Zelda shall we?

SO! With that in mind, I'd love to hear what everyones' opinion is on this question. Especially since nearly every series (video series at least) is still unfinished and are each making their best effort to keep us in the dark about how their worlds work. Even with everything laid out in the open I know there'd be a lot of discrepancies, so I imagine there are quite a few differing opinions out there. It might be that one of those opinions is more correct than the rest. But we'll never know unless we try.

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SoulHammer
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I actually like the idea of multiple universes. If you stick to one universe there are limits now as to what you can have slenderman do. If you have slenderman doing something that he hasn't done in marble hornets and it's based in the same universe then it's just odd.

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Since nobody knows much about slenderman, there are, in my opinion, unending possibilities as to what he's capable of, and therefore the multiverse theory really isn't needed.

As a boogey-man, he's too "young" to have to abide by rules. He's the rebellious teenager of scary monsters.

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It is definitely universes.

Dark Dream Chronicle was built ground-up as a separate continuity and universe from every other series, and thus there will be no crossovers.
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chasechan2050
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Personally, I like the multiple universes.

Take my blog and it's universe, Stopping Lights. There is a somewhat violent Slenders. Then take something like Haunted..... That's more of a benevolent Slenders. Then take Hiking Fiend and the Slenders there is super fucking violent. Though Hiking Fiend is canon in my 'verse, Haunted is not.

And with the new blogs that I'm planning, the three are going to be completely void of any other slenderverse reference other than maybe the comments. But that'll be it's own universe.

But that's just me and I can't speak for any of the other creators or fans Razz

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I know of at least one series in which the multiverse theory is a fact.
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I know of a couple series which lean on multiversal theory. Certainly EMH seems to. That being said, I'd seen evidence in the past that many of the major vlogs - EMH, TT, TJA, maybe MH, who knows about others - all co-exist in the same universe, along with possibly the Seeking Truth blog. I'm not sure if that holds for MH, but the overall suggestion was certainly put to us at one point during the Angorapocalypse chat some months ago. And that was fine by me - their stories weren't violating each other's in any way.

But really, I think all that is very fluid. It can be a single universe or you can see it as many individual ones for a lot of those series, since they rarely interact. The Slondorworld would be awfully busy if they all existed in a single one. I assume there is a multiverse, one way or another - I see a lot of influence, deliberate or incidental, from Don Coscarelli's Phantasm films in the current mythos, at least vlogwise, where Slender Man is a being from another reality, slipping through ours and others. You can wonder if it's one constant entity refracted across many universes, or if's one per universe, or if it's a species spanning them - it can go anywhere. People don't play with these concepts enough.
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Alloflifedecays
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Obviously the blogs which interact are in the same continuity. I personally like the idea of the Slender Man specifically being different depending on the person who's being hunted, but it all happening in the same continuity. In one of my blogs, I toyed with the idea of the Slender Man being the symptom of a memetic virus, and the inconsistencies were mutations in that virus.

Indeed, if He is a tulpa, or thoughtform, or otherwise exists based on the perception of his prey, it would make sense that the information would change, like chinese whispers.

If He's an actual entity who exists independently, then yeah, a multiverse would work, if a little...clumsily. But if we hold to the tulpa theory, or that he is in some way spread via information, then the inconsistencies of information spreading are enough to explain this.
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You wouldn't decide that 28 Days Later and Night of the Living Dead take place in the same continuity of events just because they both have zombies in them.

Different stories are allowed to have different vampires.

Slender Man is just another horror icon to be used however the filmmaker wishes.

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BranRainey wrote:
You wouldn't decide that 28 Days Later and Night of the Living Dead take place in the same continuity of events just because they both have zombies in them.

Different stories are allowed to have different vampires.

Slender Man is just another horror icon to be used however the filmmaker wishes.


I kinda side more with this. To me, all series are in separate universes unless explicitly stated. Smile

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I say one universe, and then blame any inconsistencies on Dimensional Bleeding.

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It all depends on what the author thinks of it. The fourth generation blogs (third, too) give an image of a world under siege with all their proxies and interactions and Slender attacks. That's a cool literary device to play with. Then there are the ones in more of a second generation vein, which go more for the slow tension and self-supporting structure, using their own characters, and more often than not, going for horror rather than action. It's also a fun literary device to play with, though I'd personally think it makes it a lot harder to write. There are some of them which will acknowledge every other blog ever, and some which will acknowledge none of them. And trying to reconcile that wouldn't really be creating an accurate representations of the universes the authors write in, because I don't know they'd think about it in terms of universe and canon. Not all of them at the very least.

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SolDL wrote:
It all depends on what the author thinks of it.


This. So very this.
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zbeeblebrox
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BranRainey wrote:
You wouldn't decide that 28 Days Later and Night of the Living Dead take place in the same continuity of events just because they both have zombies in them.


Neutral There are no zombies in 28 Days Later.
Anyway, as an analogy, other Horror *properties* are poor examples, since the lawyers would form up and block any attempt at intermingling, even if it was desired. Slenderman is more properly compared to the Lovecraftian mythology, which was an open-source, collaborative effort that nobody really owns, and which shows up in a lot of stories, popular and unpopular alike. Some acknowledge each other and some do not.

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You decide... http://jeffreykoval.com/post/7962977053/the-day-the-tips-touched-and-the-streams-crossed

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