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[niobexrev]

[surfloser]

im just waiting for random to give me a pill
will it be red
or will it be blue
do you have a chaser?

[AnthraX101]

[nathius]

surfloser: you have me scared;
if anyone experiences a dream in which they are chasing beth and the AI man, please do inform. im now afraid to even think about the game, in fear that it will set off the agents.

lol

[surfloser]

i understand the first part of your explination anthrax
but wouldnt beths visual experiences trigger their systems?

[joebrent]

[surfloser]

yes yes this is all well and good
but what about beth and what she is seeing on a DAILY basis now

[adagio]

As far as sight triggering monitors goes, are we assuming that there is a reason for them to do this? The only reason for sight to trigger monitors is if there already exists a visually identifiable target to go after. They would have to know what they are looking for.

I am beginning to think that this takes place in a world/matrix before a "one" exists, before there is a reason for them. It would make sense if the monitors went after people who were suddenly exposed to glitches or discovered they suddenly had the ability to change things.

I have a further speculation. What if after the wars with the machines, humans were given the a choice? They become permanently enslaved by doing physical work to generate energy to power the machines, or to assist the machines in the creation of the matrix so that they would not have to live such horrible existences? I doubt if the machines would have the imagination or the understanding of how we perceive the world to be able to create the matrix without help from humans. What if Beth already understands in some way that she lives in a virtual world?

[yeahyeah]

its not what the participants see, its what the monitor/agents can see.. (if we stick with this train of thought)

And I'm still pretty sure it should be sight, not site.. :)

[joebrent]

[surfloser]

you guys remember the animatrix, when the girl went to the HAUNTED house and they had that little trace program type thing like anomaly located or something to that sorts im pretty sure its been a while though
*i see now what your talking about with visual experiences but you dont think they would be able to track this thing down when they had no problem tracking neo trinity or anyone else that wasn't supposed to be doing something*

[surfloser]

lets just say i find it hard to believe they can locate them and not her

[ArchGod]

But when did the agents track Neo and the gang when they weren't doing something to affect the rules of the Matrix? Never! They were always doing something that wasn't possible in the real world, that is what triggered the system to find the problem and fix it. Since Beth hasn't done anything that would be against the program rules then she wouldn't set off any firewalls.

I've got a question, maybe if we ask Beth "Since you know that the world is artificial, and your friend can change stuff, do you think you could try to change things?" Although if she did change something or bend the rules, then she would be in trouble according to my theory.

I also think that we should tell Beth to go back to work, but to be careful and to keep an eye out for the monitors.

Although now that I think of it, Beth could have set off firewalls by travelling throughout the world in just seconds.

[surfloser]

her participation in the events would have no beiring on this?

[ArchGod]

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