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xtreme777
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continuation of our conversation:

xtmama: we all would. maybe by finding out what happened to your friend James, we can learn more about what happened to our friend Thomas
bethlmcconnell: perhaps so
xtmama: were you aware that someone stole your picture from the metadex website and put in on an advertisement for a credit company? I would not be very happy to find that out. Here is a link to the website https://www.clearcredit.com/registration/default.asp?cpID=c02332p2786&ckID=ban14921&n=b
bethlmcconnell: they took my picture?
bethlmcconnell: that wasn't so nice of them.
xtmama: if i were you I would ask them for a percentage of all the profits they recieve for the use of your picture. That way you could more easily afford to go on your paranormal expeditions

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Chat transcript

vargr23 (12:03:28 AM): I received your email on the list this evening. Are you in a position to chat?
bethlmcconnell (12:09:03 AM): I am, but it's slow going.
bethlmcconnell (12:09:18 AM): I have quite a few windows and distractions
vargr23 (12:09:41 AM): Understood. How is your friend faring?
bethlmcconnell (12:10:45 AM): He's disappeared.
vargr23 (12:11:23 AM): Did he bring you back safely?
bethlmcconnell (12:24:19 AM): Yes, I'm back safe and sound
vargr23 (12:26:13 AM): How are you feeling? Are there any physical effects from the translocation?
bethlmcconnell (12:52:01 AM): No physical effects at all
bethlmcconnell (12:52:22 AM): (thanks for being so patient, for some reason your window keeps getting buried under others)
vargr23 (12:54:11 AM): I imagine that you're pretty inundated. I have a test idea when you see your friend again. Ask him to predict an event that will occur in the world tomorrow, as specifically as he can. Something you can eye-witness if possible.
bethlmcconnell (12:59:15 AM): that would be interesting
bethlmcconnell (12:59:22 AM): that would also be very valuable
vargr23 (1:15:28 AM): I'm glad you think so. If ever I can be of assistance in your research, please let me know. I have an extensive archive of resources, and a very capable network of associates.
bethlmcconnell (1:18:23 AM): oh, i'll keep that in mind
bethlmcconnell (1:18:37 AM): i'm sorry that i've been so distracted tonight
bethlmcconnell (1:18:50 AM): it's made chatting very difficult
bethlmcconnell (1:19:04 AM): but i'm almost always online, so feel free to msg me sometime.
vargr23 (1:19:37 AM): I will. It's been good chatting with you. Good night.
bethlmcconnell (1:19:46 AM): good night.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:42 am
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Pretty sure I got somewhere.

It's obvious that we are going for something specific here... And it's obvious she knows what it is and is just waiting for one of us to "get it" given the data recieved, I think my conclusion is the most obvious choice and so far it looks like I'm definitely on the right track. w00t for me.

I especially enjoyed her compliment about my thoughts needing to be reread. I got all warm and fuzzy feeling. Wink

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Brad: Do you think it would be helpful if someone were to try to go to some of the places you have listed on your site or are those mainly just for reference for yourself?
bethlmcconnell: Those were mainly reference for myself.
bethlmcconnell: I'm still not sure of where they all are.
Brad: Just making sure. I can't really help otherwise. Do you think the coords hold any special meaning?
Brad: I understand that he talks normally now so I'll assume it's unlikely.
Brad: Might sound like an odd question, or maybe a dumb one, but does he have any idea why he can't remember his purpose or why he was broken?
bethlmcconnell: No, he doesn't and that seems to bother him. He's mentioned that several times.
Brad: I'm working on wrapping my brain around what sort of purpose he'd have. He can effect the area around him for periods of time and translocate. Has he dropped any other hints, said things that seem odd, like the line about "how everything is at it is perceived"?
Brad: Can he effect you, personally? I don't know how willing you'd be to test that, but you should see if he has any control over actual animals/persons. That might give insight to his purpose.
Brad: I have a pretty good idea of his purpose, maybe, but I need to know a few other things first, I don't want to just blurt it out unless I have to...
Brad: Was he able to stop time, possibly? IE: keep you out of the loop and freeze everything else?
Brad: What makes him or you or us think that when we "figure out" his purpose, he will accept it? What if he doesn't like his purpose? What is the point of figuring out what his point was if he already knows what he can do? If he is running from something, why is he doing it?
Brad: Did you know Thomas Anderson?
Brad: Hello? Beth? Earth to Beth? Have you dropped off the face of the earth?
Brad: Get back to me whenever you have a minute, I really don't mind.

--- HUGE TWO HOUR GAP ---

bethlmcconnell: yikes. I just found a whole mess of hidden windows and yours was one
bethlmcconnell: i'm sorry about that
bethlmcconnell: I need to learn to keep a close things i'm not using!
Brad: haha, it's OK, luckily I'm not sitting here hanging on everything you said, otherwise i'd be very angry Wink
bethlmcconnell: and I only found it because I was closing everything down to go to bed
bethlmcconnell: well i wouldn't want you to be angry!
Brad: I don't think me being angry would effect you in any way, regardless Wink
bethlmcconnell: but i'm absolutely exhausted and have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a big day
Brad: well then I'll let you go, unless you just wanna give some yes/nos to the questions above first, it's alright either way.
bethlmcconnell: well no, it probably wouldn't effect me
bethlmcconnell: but it would still be not so nice
bethlmcconnell: i'll give a couple answers
bethlmcconnell: let me scroll up and see what all is there
bethlmcconnell: you may even get more than a yes/no
Brad: I already know the "no" to thomas anderson unless you have any other lights to shed on that one... if you even knew of him or not or the events surounding his transfer
bethlmcconnell: I just don't recognize the name
bethlmcconnell: I might have seen him around, but who knows
bethlmcconnell: people are coming and going all the time
Brad: yeah
Brad: sounds likely, didn't expect much more of an answer
bethlmcconnell: as for him effecting me personally
bethlmcconnell: my sense of smell was mine
bethlmcconnell: but i wasn't able to determine if it was done to me or if it was done to an area that i happened to be a part of
Brad: he wasn't able/willing to communicate that to you, whether it was him doing it to you or the surroundings? another one of those "percieve" comments?
Brad: eeh, I wont load anymore questions on you, you'll be around tomorrow I assume, hopefully with more data
bethlmcconnell: he didn't tell me and i didn't think to ask at the time
bethlmcconnell: i'll be around tomorrow
bethlmcconnell: and hopefully use some of the info from tonight to figure out some tests to run
bethlmcconnell: time is definitely something that i'm interested in seeing
Brad: welp, have a good night, and keep safe.... do you have any last comments about what sort of tests you're looking for? this is really hard, considering... time! I asked if he was able to stop time... ?
Brad: or is that just something you plan to ask?
bethlmcconnell: well it would be important to know if he could affect time in any way
bethlmcconnell: time and memory
Brad: I'm a pretty deep thinker, but what you're giving me/us to go on is sort of bare... very non-specific... not that I assume you know much more than you're telling, but...
bethlmcconnell: sort of bare? it's completely bare
Brad: Well, I have a pretty good idea pertaining to that... but it relies on what knowledge you have of other events.
bethlmcconnell: i headed up here without thinking at all about it
bethlmcconnell: which is something that I never do
Brad: What do you know of the Nekodas? Dina (who wrote that song) and Ethan?
bethlmcconnell: I just know Dina's music
Brad: Well, it seems to them that they were at one time different people, who have had their memories erased and reprogrammed, and have been relocated.... My idea was that the AI man might have had some part in that.
Brad: I mean... what other use could someone have with a construct that could possibly stop time/edit reality for short periods of time, and translocate?
Brad: I don't know what the bigger picture is, or why it happened, but that makes the most since to me... and if he could literally stop time and possibly edit people much in the way he can do it to reality... that could be his purpose... although that is a lot to put onto one construct.... I would assume the "person manipulation" would be a different construct, since that sounds like a highly specialized task.
Brad: Sorry to lay this all onto you at once right before bed, but it's all I could do from bursting from within.
Brad: With you searching for missing people, (to some extent, at least wondering where they are), a construct of that nature finding you would have to be more that coincidence.
bethlmcconnell: your thoughts need to be reread several times
bethlmcconnell: i like that
Brad: Thank you
Brad: As for ways to test that out... I think having him play with your memory in some small way would be a key... Asking him to put himself possibly in a childhood memory would be a good start. If he can't do that, then that knocks off the idea of him being able to "reprogram" memories.
Brad: And freezing time is an obvious test, since in a person relocation, manipulating time would be more important than manipulating reality in some way, especially for such short periods of time (unless the time limit is a symptom of the loss of memory).
Brad: OK, I think I'm done.
bethlmcconnell: right
bethlmcconnell: i'm thinking that i want to test him giving me a memory
bethlmcconnell: and taking one away
bethlmcconnell: because affect is one thing, the way it is affected is another
Brad: Yeah, definitely sounds like a good start.
Brad: Has anyone else had any really helpful suggestions? Assuming mine have been helpful...
bethlmcconnell: yours have been helpful
bethlmcconnell: several people brought up memory, which I hadn't considered
Brad: Oh well, if I can be any further help or if there is anything else that needs brain storming, give me a hollar, or I'll find you in some way. Have a good night if that is where you're heading still, I'm fresh out of ideas for now, I think, until more data comes in.
bethlmcconnell: yes, i'm still working on getting there
bethlmcconnell: i'm about braindead
bethlmcconnell: i'm almost always on, so feel free to msg me if you get any great brainstorm
Brad: You've made a lot of people braindead tonight, I think, haha.
bethlmcconnell: or if you just want to chat
Brad: Will do, for sure.
Brad: Haha, cool... I was gonna ask you if you've seen any good movies lately or read any good books, but I didn't figure you've had time Wink
bethlmcconnell: Smile
bethlmcconnell: i have a stack of books waiting to be attacked
bethlmcconnell: we'll see if I ever get through the first chapter on any of them
Brad: hopefully you'll have a chance to get to them whenever whatever-this-is boils over.
bethlmcconnell: here's hoping
bethlmcconnell: but until then. good night
bethlmcconnell: i hope to chat again soon
Brad: hope so too, night!


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Newbie645 (11:57:43 PM): Hi! I'm sure you don't know me, but I have been following your website for a while
Newbie645 (11:58:08 PM): I read your recent email about your interaction with the AI, and am quite interested in your work!
Newbie645 (12:03:54 AM): Could you answer some questions about him that I have?
bethlmcconnell (12:16:36 AM): I could try
Newbie645 (12:19:04 AM): Do you know where he came from? Is he related to laberinth?
bethlmcconnell (12:20:58 AM): I have no idea where he came from
bethlmcconnell (12:21:13 AM): As far as I know, he is beyond any tech. that we have.
Newbie645 (12:22:37 AM): Are you familiar with the problems that The Aquapolis is having, and is the AI related?
Newbie645 (12:45:27 AM): What exactly is Labyrinth and Minotaur?
bethlmcconnell (1:09:21 AM): Labyrinth and minotaur are greek myths
bethlmcconnell (1:09:31 AM): I can't say beyond that Wink
Newbie645 (1:09:37 AM): I understand Smile
Newbie645 (1:09:53 AM): Are you familiar with the problems that The Aquapolis is having, and do you think that the AI is related?
bethlmcconnell (1:22:09 AM): I'm not familiar with any problems there
bethlmcconnell (1:22:16 AM): as far as I know it's going well
Newbie645 (1:22:41 AM): Ah, they were just having a few problems with the security system malfunctioning from what I have heard, not a big deal Smile
Newbie645 (1:22:52 AM): Hey, did you ever see that movie "The Matrix"?
Newbie645 (2:10:57 AM): Are you still here?
bethlmcconnell (2:11:07 AM): I was just leaving.
Newbie645 (2:11:16 AM): Ah, well have a good night then Smile
bethlmcconnell (2:11:18 AM): I'll be back on tomorrow though i 'm sure
bethlmcconnell (2:11:21 AM): you too
Newbie645 (2:11:27 AM): Great, I'll talk to you then.


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I was about to go to bed and realized I'd forgotten to post this...
I just want to add that I'm nearly 100% certain that Beth isn't a bot. I went through a bot phase once where I just downloaded and talked to all the bots I could find, learning ones and ones with preprogrammed responses, or both...so I've talked to a lot of bots. And Beth absolutely does not sound like one. Her responses are way too human and believable.
Just wanted to mention that. Good night. Very Happy

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AnthraX101
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Omnie wrote:
I was about to go to bed and realized I'd forgotten to post this...
I just want to add that I'm nearly 100% certain that Beth isn't a bot. I went through a bot phase once where I just downloaded and talked to all the bots I could find, learning ones and ones with preprogrammed responses, or both...so I've talked to a lot of bots. And Beth absolutely does not sound like one. Her responses are way too human and believable.
Just wanted to mention that. Good night. Very Happy


I am sure that she is not a bot. She will modify her responses too much, and selects which questions to answer, even when other keywords are there.

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AnthraX101 wrote:
Times are in EST:
Newbie645 (12:45:27 AM): What exactly is Labyrinth and Minotaur?
bethlmcconnell (1:09:21 AM): Labyrinth and minotaur are greek myths
bethlmcconnell (1:09:31 AM): I can't say beyond that Wink
Newbie645 (1:09:37 AM): I understand Smile


Newbie645 (1:22:52 AM): Hey, did you ever see that movie "The Matrix"?


Razz

Too bad she didn't "bite" on the Matrix thing...

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nonlocality
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Damn. We JUST finished talking. And she seems to have put up an away message now, so it could be she's really done for the night.

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nonlocality (11:01:20 PM): I've been following your log on your website. The eperience your having as amazing! Translocating around the world! Is your friend around or is he still gone?
Bethlmcconnell (11:03:46 PM): He's still gone
nonlocality (11:03:49 PM): The way you were just listing coordinates, I got the idea that you didn't know exactly what the locations you visited were. I could tell you where you went if you like.
Bethlmcconnell (11:04:04 PM): that would be great!
Bethlmcconnell (11:04:09 PM): i have ideas on some of them
Bethlmcconnell (11:04:26 PM): but others I have no idea, outside of general time of day and temperature
nonlocality (11:05:17 PM): Okay, going backwards (because that's how I wrote them down. Smile ) They were:
nonlocality (11:05:51 PM): In or near Vladivostok.
nonlocality (11:06:35 PM): prior to that, in the Balkans, in or near Belgrade
nonlocality (11:06:50 PM): Were those two urban areas?
nonlocality (11:07:53 PM): It was hard for me to judge the minutes in my atlas, but the landscape should let you know if you were in the city or near it.
Bethlmcconnell (11:08:21 PM): I was near a city if not in one, iirc.
nonlocality (11:08:41 PM): prior to Belgrade, you were in the Dominican Republic, in or near Santo Domingo
Bethlmcconnell (11:09:24 PM): Yes, and that was wonderfully warm. I was cold on much of the trip.
nonlocality (11:09:38 PM): Prior to that, you were in what should have been the middle of nowhere. In the desert in central Oman. Was there anything there?
nonlocality (11:11:45 PM): I mean, there might be a shanty town or something to small to be on my map, but that one was easy, since there were no minutes, and it's in the middle of a large expanse of desert with nothing around.
nonlocality (11:13:41 PM): Heh, I imagine you must be swamped with IM boxes from your email list. I'll go on, but I am curious what was there.
nonlocality (11:14:20 PM): Prior to the confluence point in Oman, you were in Romainia, in or near Bucharest.
nonlocality (11:14:51 PM): Prior to that I believe you were in Isreal, in or near Tel Aviv
nonlocality (11:16:46 PM): Wow, you must be really swamped...or something is happening. Beth, is something up?
nonlocality (11:18:49 PM): Are you there?
nonlocality (11:19:32 PM): I hope everything is all right. To continue:
nonlocality (11:19:52 PM): Prior to Tel Aviv, you were in Norway, in or near Oslo.
nonlocality (11:20:06 PM): Prior to that, in Egypt, in or near Alexandria
nonlocality (11:20:42 PM): Prior to that, in the Ukraine, in or near Odessa.
nonlocality (11:21:00 PM): And prior to that you were in France, and I think you were in Paris.
nonlocality (11:21:50 PM): And of course, Prior to that you were in the woods in Washington
Bethlmcconnell (11:32:20 PM): well that was quite a trip
Bethlmcconnell (11:32:35 PM): sorry, I got bombarded elsewhere
nonlocality (11:32:35 PM): Yeah. I'm still curious about what was in Oman.
nonlocality (11:32:42 PM): I understand. It's all right.
nonlocality (11:33:13 PM): My map shows nothing there. Was there anything around at all?
Bethlmcconnell (11:33:47 PM): You know, I don't remember Oman
nonlocality (11:34:18 PM): It should have looked like a flat expanse of gravel as far as the eye could see. According to my map.
Bethlmcconnell (11:34:31 PM): I don't remember that
Bethlmcconnell (11:34:36 PM): which I think that I would have
Bethlmcconnell (11:34:59 PM): It was right before the D.R.
nonlocality (11:35:05 PM): How strange. Do you remember what it looked like?
nonlocality (11:35:10 PM): Yeah, that's the one.
Bethlmcconnell (11:35:10 PM): It's all such a blur
nonlocality (11:35:44 PM): After Romania, before the Dominican Republic.
nonlocality (11:37:36 PM): Hey! Wait a minute!
nonlocality (11:38:52 PM): Do you remember if that was an urban area? If so, I think I have yet another odd coincidence to add to the picture here.
Bethlmcconnell (11:45:29 PM): I don't think it was urban
Bethlmcconnell (11:45:39 PM): but I don't think it was gravel as far as the eye could see
nonlocality (11:45:54 PM): What was it, can you remember anything?
Bethlmcconnell (11:46:41 PM): I really don't remember, there had to have been a building and a street
nonlocality (11:47:04 PM): Hm. Strange. Here's what I noticed that is odd:
nonlocality (11:48:52 PM): On your company's website, there is a map (can you tell I like maps?) with all the Metacortex locations, and one of them is there, in that middle-of-nowhere place in Oman. They lable it as Kuwait City, but that isn't where Kuwait City is.
Bethlmcconnell (11:49:16 PM): Well that's interesting
Bethlmcconnell (11:49:41 PM): I don't think I was in Kuwait City
nonlocality (11:50:35 PM): A building and a street... but not an urban area. No, you weren't in Kuwait City. I thought maybe there was a typo and that coordinant was supposed to be 57W, but that's in the ocean. I don't think you were there either.
Bethlmcconnell (11:52:14 PM): No, I would have definitely remembered that!
nonlocality (11:52:30 PM): Did your friend mention anything about what was guiding his choice of locations?
Bethlmcconnell (11:55:41 PM): No
Bethlmcconnell (11:55:46 PM): it seemed almost random
nonlocality (11:55:55 PM): If there is some connection between these locations, it might reveal more about your friend and his powers. Alternatively, is it possibly your company has a location there and just mislabelled the map?
nonlocality (11:56:28 PM): Ah, but at first the anomalies that got you to where you are now seemed random as well.
Bethlmcconnell (11:56:52 PM): very true
nonlocality (11:59:18 PM): If he is an AI, it seems strange that they would be random locations. I mean, just think from a code point of view about what random locations would have meant. Over two thirds of this planet is water, and that wouldn't be too fun to land in. Unless you were near Myknos, maybe. Heh.
Bethlmcconnell (12:02:23 AM): heh
nonlocality (12:02:59 AM): So at the very least there was probably a restriction to only land coordinates. He seems to be able to tell his exact location at all times, and from your account he knows it in some way that doesn't use GPS because he would have to reacquire sattelites in each new location and that would have taken more time. He controlled wind. He removed your sense of smell, which is also an atmospheric effect if you think about it. And when you can't smell, you can't taste either. I'm just think these things are more likely to have guiding principles than to not.
nonlocality (12:04:58 AM): And perhaps identification of various guiding purposes will suggest what might be your friend's overall guiding purpose.
nonlocality (12:07:19 AM): Was there a long period of time between him bringing you back to Washington and his departure?
nonlocality (12:16:55 AM): You said he got excited with each new location. Maybe there was something guiding the locations that he was sensitive to was exploring, and he left to continue with the sequence. But probably not if he stuck around for a while after taking you back.
nonlocality (12:22:30 AM): Wow, if my guess that the periodic long delays are due to you having a ton of other people who read your site talking to you, you must really be swamped on a small laptop screen. Do you have some sort of system for cycling through them?
nonlocality (12:23:59 AM): Heh...not that that particular guiding principle is likely to be revelatory. I was just curious about that one. I would like to know if you agree with my reasoning on your friend's nature, though.
Bethlmcconnell (12:36:49 AM): yes, i'm sorry that i got so distracted tonight
nonlocality (12:36:57 AM): It's perfectly understandable.
Bethlmcconnell (12:37:02 AM): it must be ten times more frustrating for you than it is for me
Bethlmcconnell (12:37:07 AM): and it's frustrating me
nonlocality (12:37:13 AM): well, relatively speaking
Bethlmcconnell (12:37:25 AM): i feel like i get to the point where real conversation begins and then i have to start all over
nonlocality (12:37:37 AM): With your friend you mean?
nonlocality (12:37:52 AM): Or with the people?
Bethlmcconnell (12:38:07 AM): no, with you and other people (i suddenly got over 40 chat windows at once)
Bethlmcconnell (12:38:18 AM): it was one of those overwhelming moments
Bethlmcconnell (12:38:44 AM): and people, like you, were getting buried under others that would pop up
nonlocality (12:38:52 AM): Heh, I guessed as much. I'm sorry that I contributed to your frustration.
Bethlmcconnell (12:39:04 AM): oh, don't apologize!
Bethlmcconnell (12:39:16 AM): i just wish that i hadn't left you hanging so much
nonlocality (12:39:18 AM): Yeah, that's why I was wondering about your method of cycling through em. I'd never manage it on my laptop.
nonlocality (12:39:30 AM): Don't worry about it, I understand perfectly.
nonlocality (12:40:14 AM): Did you have any thoughts on my reasoning about your friend, or have you been to frazzled?
Bethlmcconnell (12:41:26 AM): I like your reasoning
Bethlmcconnell (12:41:31 AM): I just reread it
Bethlmcconnell (12:41:39 AM): i'm also a bit frazzled
nonlocality (12:41:50 AM): Wow, that's quite an investment when you have 40 chat windows, rereading something.
Bethlmcconnell (12:42:33 AM): there was some delay after we returned and he left. he stayed through dinner though he didn't eat
Bethlmcconnell (12:42:41 AM): he asked a number of questions
Bethlmcconnell (12:42:49 AM): and then when i was cleaning up he left
Bethlmcconnell (12:42:54 AM): and i didn't notice
nonlocality (12:43:21 AM): Did he have any answers for you?
Bethlmcconnell (12:45:18 AM): no.
Bethlmcconnell (12:45:28 AM): he was more curious about my daily life
nonlocality (12:45:48 AM): In thinking about possible guiding principles and code-based systems, I've been trying to find some mathematical relationship of the coordinates, but nothing is immediately apparent. He asked you questions? What did he ask?
nonlocality (12:46:48 AM): Sorry to have two different trains of thought at once there. I got excited when you said he asked you questions, what he asks might be as revelatory about his nature as what he can do or where he can go.
Bethlmcconnell (12:48:39 AM): he was just very curious about relationships
Bethlmcconnell (12:48:44 AM): human friendships
nonlocality (12:50:46 AM): What was it that made you suspect he could translocate in the first place? Was this a subsystem he was testing?
Bethlmcconnell (12:51:05 AM): well he had translocated someone before
nonlocality (12:51:25 AM): Who?
Bethlmcconnell (12:52:08 AM): a girl in GA
Bethlmcconnell (12:52:23 AM): I can't think of her name right now
nonlocality (12:52:24 AM): Oh, of course
nonlocality (12:52:29 AM): The anomalies
Bethlmcconnell (12:52:36 AM): so that's what brought that up
nonlocality (12:52:47 AM): Sorry, wasn't thinking for a second.
Bethlmcconnell (12:52:49 AM): and I joked that if it had been me I'd want to go to Paris
Bethlmcconnell (12:53:02 AM): and one thing led to another and off I went
nonlocality (12:53:18 AM): I see. So he CAN control his destination.
nonlocality (12:53:32 AM): Was something said next about Odessa?
Bethlmcconnell (12:53:48 AM): no.
nonlocality (12:54:03 AM): Hm. So did he say why he wanted to take you there?
Bethlmcconnell (12:54:13 AM): after Paris it all seemed random
Bethlmcconnell (12:54:24 AM): but he said that he wanted to show me the world
nonlocality (12:54:56 AM): He seems to have some sort of innate connection to it. What with the coordinates and all.
nonlocality (12:55:19 AM): Perhaps his purpose is something global scale. Maybe his desire to show it to you is related to it being a main focus.
Bethlmcconnell (12:55:47 AM): you know, that could be
nonlocality (12:56:02 AM): Or...all the other effects went away after a few minutes, right?
Bethlmcconnell (12:56:12 AM): yes
nonlocality (12:57:03 AM): Well, maybe the subsystem for translocation is the same way. He took you to paris, but after a few minutes that subsystem discontinued being in that location.
nonlocality (12:57:16 AM): and reverted to a preprogramed sequence.
Bethlmcconnell (12:57:38 AM): hmmm, now that's interesting. I had never made that connection.
Bethlmcconnell (12:58:09 AM): that could be something.
Bethlmcconnell (12:58:31 AM): there has to be a reason why it only lasts a short time
nonlocality (12:58:46 AM): If there is a preprogrammed sequence of locations, then that suggests intended spot-checking or something. Like a scan.
Bethlmcconnell (12:58:48 AM): i need to test that tomorrow, if he returns
Bethlmcconnell (12:59:02 AM): exactly
Bethlmcconnell (12:59:10 AM): moving through a process
nonlocality (12:59:14 AM): Perhaps try to see if he is able to stop these things BEFORE they stop on their own.
nonlocality (12:59:31 AM): See if he can control it, or if he is just executing something autonomous.
nonlocality (1:01:49 AM): The process he was running through, if that is what it was, always brought you to population centers, or near them. Except in Oman, which is still something of a mystery.
nonlocality (1:01:56 AM): Hmm.
Bethlmcconnell (1:02:24 AM): I'll have to ask him about that
Bethlmcconnell (1:02:28 AM): why there
nonlocality (1:02:29 AM): So that suggests the purpose is something related in some way to people or is oriented around people.
nonlocality (1:03:03 AM): Please do, it's been driving me crazy! heh.
Bethlmcconnell (1:03:16 AM): heh
nonlocality (1:03:24 AM): Incidently, since that coordinate is a conluence point, I figured there might be a picture of it online. There was.
Bethlmcconnell (1:03:37 AM): well, it's been great chatting, but i can barely keep my eyes open
nonlocality (1:03:52 AM): http://www.confluence.org/confluence.php?lat=21&lon=57
nonlocality (1:04:13 AM): Okay, perhaps we will chat another time. But is that at all what you saw?
Bethlmcconnell (1:06:06 AM): Similar, but I remember a building or a row of buildings
nonlocality (1:06:17 AM): Hm. Then it must have been built in the last year.
Bethlmcconnell (1:06:30 AM): i might have missed it when he gave the minutes
nonlocality (1:06:51 AM): That could be too. Anyway, have a good night.
Bethlmcconnell (1:07:14 AM): yes, you too
Bethlmcconnell (1:07:27 AM): i'm going to clean up the site and go to bed
Bethlmcconnell (1:07:40 AM): i'm almost always on, so feel free to msg me
Bethlmcconnell (1:07:58 AM): and i'll be sure to ask about oman
Bethlmcconnell (1:08:00 AM): Smile
nonlocality (1:08:26 AM): Thanks, I will if I come up with anything else. And thanks. My cartographic curiosity won't let me rest until I understand that one.
nonlocality (1:08:58 AM): er, the second thanks was for asking about Oman. Sheesh. Maybe I'm getting tired too. G'night.
Bethlmcconnell (1:12:06 AM): gnight


Edit: Actually, I don't want to leave my messenger name up. If you copied this conversation to an archive or just your computer, please replace that version with this one. All that's been changed is my name, and the smilies didn't copy. I think there were four, I put back in the two I could remember. Not that they are important.

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nonlocality wrote:
Damn. We JUST finished talking. And she seems to have put up an away message now, so it could be she's really done for the night.


That was some conversation! Surprised

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Tell me about it. I was actually glad for those breaks while she spoke to other people. Gave me time to think about how to guide the conversation while still staying in the believable reality of just a reader of her website.

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Has anyone taken the straight up "I know a lot about you and can access your metadex, Marcus', Phillip's and Kat's and.....[insert information useful to Beth here]" approach yet? I would, but I don't have AIM or an AIM account, although I'm thinking about it.

EDIT: Well, from what I've been told on IRC she wouldn't believe a word of anything like that....so scratch that idea Confused
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I thought about that, but I decided against it. Here's why:

It has been demonstrated repeatedly that those running this thing don't abide deviation from storyline. Anything out of context is shut down immediately. Now, if someone said something like,

"Incidentally, I was chatting with some other people I know online who are on your mailing list--a bunch of paranormal hobbyists. One of them was saying some things that were a little troubling, about how he was sick of not having access to the archives. I didn't hear the beginning of the conversation, but he was talking as though he had been reading your email or something. You might want to change your passwords."

that would be within the boundaries, but what would come of it? She might ignore it, or she might dismiss it (she previously mentioned she has never really been scared of having personal info online), or she might act on it and change the password, in which case we have to figure it out all over again.


Side note: I've looked at some of the other transcripts now, and it is pretty clear she always shuts down out-of-context stuff. I can't believe how many people mentioned the monitors. Unless Beth mentioned the monitors somewhere and I missed it, that is basically the same as saying, "Beth, I've been reading your email." And notice that her response was always "I have not brought them up," which has something of a double meaning when you think about it.

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nonlocality wrote:
Side note: I've looked at some of the other transcripts now, and it is pretty clear she always shuts down out-of-context stuff. I can't believe how many people mentioned the monitors. Unless Beth mentioned the monitors somewhere and I missed it, that is basically the same as saying, "Beth, I've been reading your email." And notice that her response was always "I have not brought them up," which has something of a double meaning when you think about it.


er, whoops. *looks around shiftily* Yeah, you make a good point. Quite honestly, I (and many others, I'm sure) got pretty excited, and conveniently completely forgot what we were and were not supposed to know. Convenient, because there's quite a lot that we aren't supposed to know. Beth took it all quite well...if I were her, I'd be totally freaking out about how much total strangers seem to know about my life. Actually, she must have been pretty excited too, after all that happened to her, so it makes sense that she didn't stop to think about what we knew. Also, she never wondered how all these random people suddenly knew her SN, when she'd only told Phil about it in a private e-mail. So, in-game, this requires a certain suspension of disbelief on both sides. I do think that you're right, we should be more careful in future conversations. I really think we should stay in our prescribed role of people on her e-mail list, and not try to confuse the poor woman completely. Because, while she conveniently ignored certain things that were said, I don't see how she could ignore someone telling her that they'd read all her e-mail...and her friends' e-mail, and her boss's e-mail...and her research archives...yeah. I'd suggest not doing that. Very Happy

(I'm not still up and awake, btw...er, I'm typing in my sleep, yep. Pretty good for someone unconscious with her eyes closed, eh?)

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I'm asleep as well. And I spent this evening working on the things I need to get done before monday.

We are all such responsible people. If I weren't sleeping it would bring a tear to my eye.

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So, nonlocality, any idea yet about what was up with Oman? Did the PM's just give us the wrong coordinates, or are they working off more up-to-date maps?
I liked the idea about it being pre-programmed, or a scan, that AI Man had tapped into (or perhaps was a part of his own programming?), but if that is the case, why might they (I assume this scan is part of the Matrix rather than anything Metacortechs is doing) want to scan those particular areas?
Nonetheless, very cool conversation, most of which went right over my head!
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