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[Trailhead] Jerusalem UFO Sighting
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Crisko
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 [Trailhead] Jerusalem UFO Sighting
Is this just an elaborate hoax or is it ARG time?

Hello, unforum, it's been a while...

So perusing youtube a couple months ago, I came across an increasingly popular UFO sighting in Jerusalem:



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The video was posted by user eligael. He and a friend of his filmed this from two perspectives:



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Continuing in my browsing, a third perspective was also posted by another user:



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Comments flooded the video claiming it was fake and video analyses were posted in responses debunking the video:



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It even made it to several television news programs, including CBS:



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I applauded the hoaxer's work, shared it on my facebook and moved on with my life. Then a few days later I get wind that a FOURTH video had been posted by a different user from a different perspective:



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I'm thinking another still image like the third video, but then someone synced this view with the first two:



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So now I'm wondering; not necessarily whether or not this is real, but that if it is an elaborate hoax by one eligael, why all this effort? For what purpose? To get ad revenue on his channel perhaps? But these other videos didn't even come from his main channel. Maybe just for the lulz? Sure, possibly. I decided I'd subscribe to his channel and keep tabs on his future postings.

Fast forward to last month, eligael posts this video with a 3 second teaser of a "close-up":



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I'm thinking, why the dramatic intro? Why a teaser? What's this leading to? Everyone else is screaming "FAKE" and "HOAX" but due to my history in ARGing, I'm thinking something unreal is about to unfold... Wink

Sure enough, a week or so later, the full video is posted:



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As you read the comments, you'll see people are absolutely freaking out about how fake this is, not to mention the over the top dramatisation of the monk, the dropped key and the sound track. I, on the other hand, have sunk into ARG mode and am almost sure this is the beginning of some sort of game.

Towards the end of the video, should you wait or skip through the minute of black video, eligael asks three questions:

1. What is the sign on the bottom of the disk?
2. Who is this monk?
3. Where (does) this key lead?

After the third question the video shows twos till photos of the key chain. On one side is a red cross and on the other is a checkerboard pattern with some sort of alpha/numeric code printed above it. Then, credits for the music fade in.

Well, what do you guys think? If this doesn't scream ARG I don't know what to make of it other than someone has way too much time on their hands.

My initial observations:

Eligael links to an article that analyses the shape underneath the saucer, showing comparisons to an English crop circle from July 16, 1991.

The "monk" wears a round medallion about his neck. The cross symbol on the keychain he drops is actually a red Knights Templar cross. Along this line of thinking, the checkerboard pattern on the reverse appears inside the inner sanctum of every Masonic Temple.



The code reads:
Code:
02-1122012 - T


As for the Templar/Mason connection, it is well known in recent Masonic lore that the Knights Templar were the precursor to the first lodge of modern/speculative Freemasons that stemmed from those who built the Rosslyn Chapel in Roslin Scotland under the direction of Sir William Sinclair, a descendant of the last of the Knights Templar in the St. Clair family (see The Hiram Key by Knight, Lomas). The Knights Templar were a group of Christian Royals who journeyed to Jerusalem to fight in the Crusades. It is said that the Templars dug under the temple mount, Mount Moriah, where they found an immense treasure that would eventually provide them with a means to become the most powerful society in Europe. This is the same mount where the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa mosque are situated on, where the UFO is described as hovering over. I don't know where to begin on the numbers, but maybe the 'T' stands for Templar?

So instead of belligerently dismissing eligeal, I'm going to take him up on his questions and see what happens. Cool

PS--
A link to the Facebook group linked on Eligael's youtube channel.

PPS--
Just as soon as I finished drafting this post, eligael posts a new video on his channel of a local hebrew talk show



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(Video updated, original was removed and then reup'd with the intro text.)
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Hmm, strange...

What struck me with the numbers is, when you ignore the first 0, you get 21122012 (21.12.2012 or 12.21.2012 for Americans).
Looks familiar, doesn't it?

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the key..
are the aliens going to play chess??

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Hi there

I've never played an ARG before in my life, but after stumbling onto this website, really really want to play one, and it looks like this one is just beginning, so yeh.

Because I have no idea how you would progress from something like this in terms of getting further in the ARG. So as a noob, probably won't be able to help you guys much. But, I *might* be able to contribute in a small way - I am pretty much fluent in Hebrew, so can help by translating things said in videos and the like.

For what it's worth, in the fourth witness video, one of the guys at the end says "this isn't real!", but that is probably meant to just be a typical reaction if someone actually saw that happening.

Maybe of some slight more relevance: in the first witness videos, after the UFO shoots back up into the sky, the guy on the balcony says "there's a whole group of them", and in the fourth video, some said "there's loads!"

You can see quite a few lights in the sky at the end of the second witness video. The hebrew clarifies that this comes from several UFOs, rather than several lights on one UFO

Excited for this!

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Rabbit Holy of Holies?

A google search for "eligael" returns results that seem to suggest that the UFO community is taking this seriously, though as a hoax.

but just in case,

http://twitter.com/Eligael

sadly, nearly all posts are in Hebrew, so I can't make any sense of it.

http://he-il.facebook.com/people/Eligael-Gedalyovich/100002071407740

This doesn't feel very trailheadie/rabbit holie to me, but I'll look at the videos and comments once more and keep an eye on this thread.

-z
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ok. i think that's him dressed as the monk. look at the FB profile pic, then at the video.

Also, several people in the comments of the YT videos claim that he and some of the other witnesses/posters are all Tel Aviv film students.

I think this is, at best, viral self-marketing. We'll see if anything develops, though.

I just spotted this. I don't think it's been posted yet:



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it *is* interesting that his FB and twitter accounts show no activity prior to mid/late February.

OH, also, he registered a domain in mid-march, though it is currently just a collection of ads: http://www.eligael.com/
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I am interested in what this will develop into, but then again it seems like a strange way to introduce an ARG. . If it's a case of pot luck on whether you have an interpreter for half of the material chances are we will be out in the dark most of the time.

It could be nothing but the Templars link and the mysterious nature is still intriguing if nothing else.

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Re: Rabbit Holy of Holies?

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This doesn't feel very trailheadie/rabbit holie to me, but I'll look at the videos and comments once more and keep an eye on this thread.

-z


What did it for me was the last video with the monk and the keychain, otherwise I would not have posted anything here. I agree with your assessment at this point as this being something along the lines of viral-marketing, but this whole keychain thing and the connections with the saucer hovering over the place the knights templar found their hidden treasure is something that makes me think this is leading to something else much more in depth.
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sub-xero wrote:
I am interested in what this will develop into, but then again it seems like a strange way to introduce an ARG. . If it's a case of pot luck on whether you have an interpreter for half of the material chances are we will be out in the dark most of the time.


So far, nothing whatsoever in the hebrew of any importance on FB or twitter, it's literally all "i've subscribed to this channel" or "i favourited that video". Will chip in if anything vaguely relevant comes up in hebrew.

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Nice one JehosephatDostoevsky, it's handy to have someone prepared to do that with the know how to boot Very Happy I'm actually buzzing with anticipation for this but then it all seems too much like attention seeking rather than "hey let's play" I mean, it's bold and in your face hoax and little more thus far. .

Gutsy film student attempt at conspiracy rallying? Legit ARG trailhead gathered too much media moss?

I remain fenced.

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Let Down?

A simple Google search of "Eligael UFO" results in the discovery of this website known as UFO Disclosure Countdown Clock. I stumbled across the list of keywords linked to articles and Eligael Gedalyovich was listed along with a rather large amount of info. . sadly, this does seem more and more likely to be a hoax.

Check this out which seems to want to link the monkish video to the release of the Hyundai Genesis on the 02-11-2012. Amongst other things;

http://ufodisclosurecountdownclock.blogspot.com/search/label/eligael%20gedalyovich

We still have no idea what this truly is, but someone has gone to a lot of effort to provide this information all the same

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seems to me like the ufo countdown website doesn't actually have anything to do with eligael per se, they just got way way way too enthusiastic about his videos.

As I said, this my first attempt at getting involved in an ARG, so I really hope it doesn't end up being a hoax; to that end, just gonna throw out something I originally just dismissed but, in hope of spurring on some progress with this, have gone back to.

In the monk video, there's hebrew on the building the monk comes out of. The writing basically declares the building to be a study hall that's part of a yeshivah (basically a Jewish seminary). This time I decided to google the name of the yeshivah, and it turns out must be a pretty major one as it has its own wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porat_Yosef_Yeshiva

so that's the name of the specific yeshivah in the video - maybe that can lead to a new line of pursuit?

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This makes me think of the recent news that Iran has built an unmanned spy "flying saucer". Laughing
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/23/iran-announces-launch-unmanned-flying-saucer/

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I do alot in the ufo and paranormal community.This is being taken as really and has appeared and been investigated on several ufo programs so I do think this is a arg in my opinion.
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It would seem this is not only dead, but floating on the surface being poked at with a stick.

So far no indicators whatsoever that this is an ARG and the would be pm is certainly not playing ball. No response to messages sent to his youtube account and no other links to anything relevant or motivating.

In my opinion, debunked.

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