Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
 
The time now is Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:30 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)
View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
[VIDEO] Entry #38
Moderators: Giskard, JKatkina, Zarggg
View previous topicView next topic
Page 12 of 28 [417 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, ..., 26, 27, 28  Next
Author Message
Megarain
Decorated


Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Posts: 285
Location: Looking for a new Host system.

Rogue Thoughts wrote:
Antifringe wrote:
Is anyone else uneasy with the direction the story is going? I don't think that Marble Hornets needs a long brick of demystifying exposition about the Slenderman's origins.

I agree. A backstory kills the "fear of the unknown" vibe, so now Slendy's actually gonna have to do something to be scary again. Besides standing there menacingly.


Also @iFaux
I completely disagree. He's still an unknown force. Is he the reason the trees grow fast? Or is that for some other reason. Perhaps the form he takes is due to all the people killed there. Who knows. I surely don't.

All we have now is a hint at why he looks like he does.

As to the three growth delema: If you mount a person by the feet to the base of a tree, and by the hands to the top of a tree. As the tree grows, they will slowly be stretched out. In the case of normal growth, this would take decades.

Also they could have mounted them in various ways to make it work.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:12 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
dfw
Decorated


Joined: 12 Feb 2011
Posts: 267
Location: NC

onetruepurple wrote:
Pardon if it's assholish to quote oneself here, but:
onetruepurple wrote:
This footage can't come from before season 1, because Jay and Alex's relations are nowhere near as friendly as they were in Entry #5, for example. Also, Alex pretty much described the Operator in his talk - he's trying to make sense of this clusterfuck as well, and the folklore tale was the sanest possibility he had.

Jay is not laughing at ghost stories - he's visibly unsettled by Alex's behavior.

Also, as someone mentioned, Jay was taping the entire thing - he didn't do that until several weeks before the events of #18.


How do we know it wasn't Alex's camera though? He was carrying it at first wasn't he?

and and, why did Jay ask why Alex was telling him the story? If Alex was trying to make sense of this thing, (and maybe he was), why didn't Jay like, catch on that was what he was telling the story for?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:15 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Cactus Wren
Boot


Joined: 16 Mar 2011
Posts: 60

Two observations:

1. BranRainey and Aylana are right. There is something phenomenally creepy about unadorned raw footage of two men walking along a woodland trail -- I kept expecting them to come across something horrifying, or Alex to suddenly turn around and reveal that his face was gone.

2. "The nineteenth century"? Thank you, Alex, that's helpful as hell: WHEN in the nineteenth century? Some of us would like a chance to check your extremely dubious historical allegations, you know, or at least have a remote idea what period you're talking about. And "brought them out here to try them before God" sounds more seventeenth- or early eighteenth-century than nineteenth. History is not a monolithic slab of The Olden Days, you know. You're probably one of those people who thinks of the Napoleonic Wars as "Victorian", aren't you?

(Cactus Wren begins pounding her head against the wall, wishing she could do the same with Kralie's)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:16 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
J.Fawkes
Veteran


Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 147
Location: Earth

I think therre is some excellent foreshadowing going on. I don't really expect to see dismembered bodies in trees, but this does fit very nicely in the Slender Man Mythos.

I noticed there was some visual tear near the beginning, and some very slight audio distortion throughout, but no sighting of Slendy. I could be wrong and totally have missed him though.

I have a bad feeling about this.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:20 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
redherring
Unfettered


Joined: 04 Dec 2010
Posts: 469
Location: NJ

Megarain wrote:
Rogue Thoughts wrote:
Antifringe wrote:
Is anyone else uneasy with the direction the story is going? I don't think that Marble Hornets needs a long brick of demystifying exposition about the Slenderman's origins.

I agree. A backstory kills the "fear of the unknown" vibe, so now Slendy's actually gonna have to do something to be scary again. Besides standing there menacingly.


Also @iFaux
I completely disagree. He's still an unknown force. Is he the reason the trees grow fast? Or is that for some other reason. Perhaps the form he takes is due to all the people killed there. Who knows. I surely don't.

All we have now is a hint at why he looks like he does.

As to the three growth delema: If you mount a person by the feet to the base of a tree, and by the hands to the top of a tree. As the tree grows, they will slowly be stretched out. In the case of normal growth, this would take decades.

Also they could have mounted them in various ways to make it work.


Re-watching, Alex does say 'tied them to the trees'. These were clearly simple folks (1800s villagers) so they may have just tied them up by their hands to a branch/branches and assumed it'd just stretch them as the trees grew.

And yeah... this entry gives absolutely no answers about Slenderman. It hints at some possible backstory, but it's a folk legend. It could have a lot to do with the Operator, it might be vaguely related to it/him, or it might be an entirely irrelevant red herring. We'll only really know when we see the rest of this entry.

I really don't see what the fuss is about the 'back story' killing the mystery. I'm MORE confused and intrigued now. (That said, I can understand why some would find this boring, so if that's your entire argument here, I don't think that's without merit. I personally don't think it is, but c'est la vie).
_________________
http://ryan.lelache.net

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:20 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
Geneaux486
I Have No Life


Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Posts: 2423

I'm curious, I've seen it mentioned several times here that they are touching on the actual Slender Man mythology in this video, and the whole "child went missing, this is what happened to him" thing I know is part of that. I'm curious as to whether or not the whole "bringing bad guys to the forest, stringing them up and burning the trees" thing is based on any aspect of the mythology.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:22 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
kiwistar
Boot


Joined: 26 Mar 2011
Posts: 57
Location: UK

Jay's acting skills have improved immensely.

Alex's... seem to have got worse Confused

General feeling after this episode? Meh. How cliche to run out of tape at the end like that. Just a ploy to keep us coming back.

And has anyone ever actually asked themselves the question, how will/can/ever this end? This story seems to be dragging into infinity... I'm getting a bad taste in my mouth and I don't know why Crying or Very sad

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:27 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
IThinkImMe
Veteran


Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Posts: 91
Location: Orange County, CA

Well on the bright side, this entry certainly made EVERYONE think. The Operator has been following Alex at least as far back as his childhood. Perhaps Alex has something it wants. Perhaps Alex is the key to the Operator becoming something else. Or maybe it's trying to get Alex to do something for it. We know SM can manipulate objects in the real world, i.e. the swing and Jay's bedroom door. Whatever its' reasons, it likes to be sinister and foreboding.
Ever since I started watching MH, I've noticed strange things happening. In fact as I was typing this I got a phone call on my house phone. The number calling was MY number.(And the name was some weird v0405125etc) And the on the other end was a computer that said, "We'd like to tell you about your account. Your account is fine." CLICK and the other day I posted about someone spray painting my wall with a peace sign (to which I was rudely mocked), it did happen, however. All these things ARE mere coincidence I know. My psyche is running anything I find strange through its MH filter first.
But I digress. This entry could have happened at ANY time, however I have a strong feeling it happened before season 2 started with Jay waking up in a hotel room.
One other thing is Alex obviously knows exactly where he is leading Jay. If Jay can find the next tape that would easily explain it. BUT what if there isn't a next tape that happens when he switches them out right there. What if something happened and he managed to get away with the camera and tapes and started a new one much later?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:28 pm
Last edited by IThinkImMe on Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:13 pm; edited 1 time in total
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
morscata12
Unfettered


Joined: 03 Sep 2009
Posts: 351

Geneaux486 wrote:
I'm curious, I've seen it mentioned several times here that they are touching on the actual Slender Man mythology in this video, and the whole "child went missing, this is what happened to him" thing I know is part of that. I'm curious as to whether or not the whole "bringing bad guys to the forest, stringing them up and burning the trees" thing is based on any aspect of the mythology.


It's not part of the original mythos from the SomethingAwful thread. There were some stories with themes of ordinary people (under the thrall of the Slenderman) sacrificing people to him. Quite a few stories had fire, and/or trees. But I don't think there were any criminal punishment stories, and there weren't any that blended those elements together in that way.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:29 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Jsor
Decorated

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Posts: 165

Could this have occurred during Jay's CURRENT blackout?

Geneaux486 wrote:
I'm curious, I've seen it mentioned several times here that they are touching on the actual Slender Man mythology in this video, and the whole "child went missing, this is what happened to him" thing I know is part of that. I'm curious as to whether or not the whole "bringing bad guys to the forest, stringing them up and burning the trees" thing is based on any aspect of the mythology.


Not much AFAIK, it does in several themes: trees, fire, dismembered bodies strung up in the forest, but nothing that's directly been mentioned before.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:30 pm
Last edited by Jsor on Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
BranRainey
Unfettered


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Posts: 371

I can't buy it not being from the seven months for lots of reasons:

  1. I can't imagine why either J or Alex would want to film an entire tape of walking through a forest silently if it's pre-Operator. If they were just getting stock footage, they wouldn't have shown themselves in the frame so much and certainly wouldn't have held the camera upside down.
  2. Alex doesn't seem to like J. Entry #20 and maybe some other parts I'm forgetting clearly show that they were good friends.
  3. J is plenty nervous, for his character. He's a bit of a dumbass and would definitely say something like "spooky ghost stories" even after season 1. Razz
  4. It's filmed in 720p. If J/Alex had an HD camcorder in 2006, they would be a) rich, and b) not using a 480p camcorder to film the in-story Marble Hornets. (A minor point, sure, but they did go out of their way to upload enttry #37 in a lower resolution.) (Also note that J has never scaled a small image up to do fake HD. When he shows the image of the package in Entry #36 and when he shows enttry #37 in this video, the original resolution is always maintained.)


Robodashy wrote:
Wow. WOW!!!
Just downloaded the video (shhh don't tell youtube) - if you watch the upside down footage frame by frame
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
OOG: LOL they aren't even walking for most of the shaky part - they just keep the sound going.

the way Jay is just standing there looking at the camera ... it's really creepy. REALLY creepy. His head is turned on an angle and everything (see if I can get a screen dump going).


J isn't walking for the first few seconds, then starts walking. Alex is walking the entire time. OOG it could be the beginning of a take, but IG it's not hard to handwave it as J stopping to pull out his cell phone (which it looks like he has in his hand a bit later in).

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:30 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
Kilo
Decorated

Joined: 09 Oct 2009
Posts: 278

Cactus Wren wrote:
Two observations:

1. BranRainey and Aylana are right. There is something phenomenally creepy about unadorned raw footage of two men walking along a woodland trail -- I kept expecting them to come across something horrifying, or Alex to suddenly turn around and reveal that his face was gone.

2. "The nineteenth century"? Thank you, Alex, that's helpful as hell: WHEN in the nineteenth century? Some of us would like a chance to check your extremely dubious historical allegations, you know, or at least have a remote idea what period you're talking about. And "brought them out here to try them before God" sounds more seventeenth- or early eighteenth-century than nineteenth. History is not a monolithic slab of The Olden Days, you know. You're probably one of those people who thinks of the Napoleonic Wars as "Victorian", aren't you?

(Cactus Wren begins pounding her head against the wall, wishing she could do the same with Kralie's)


I seriously doubt that there's any bit of this that's based on historical record. If anything, it might be folklore tied to the area, but even then, folklore usually doesn't bother itself with, you know, facts.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:33 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
emevas
Boot


Joined: 29 Mar 2011
Posts: 18

I think it seems very pre, but the entry makes me doubt a little cause the jay says 'i don't know when in the seven months this falls' or something like that.

but if alex has been stalked since childhood, its not unlikely he'd be interested in his stalker and went seeking him. Maybe he founf him and that's how it all got started.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:35 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Jsor
Decorated

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Posts: 165

I think we're focusing a little too much on the "spooky ghost stories" line. I'm pretty sure it was just Jay eyerolling and telling Alex to get to the point, I don't think it signifies any lack of Operator knowledge. It's more like "look, you dragged me out into the middle of nowhere for a reason, and I know it wasn't to tell me some pointless story that may be vaguely related to our situation, get to the point."

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:39 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
MagicNein
Veteran


Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Posts: 99

Arison wrote:
Soooo recalling earlier entries; remember the painting in Entry #20? It was of a burning forest.


This is also me being a derp, but the stretching out of criminals' bodies is... very similar to The Enigma of Amigara Fault. The criminals were tried and the worst conviction was being sent into one of the carved tunnels that slowly stretched out the individual's body until they no longer looked human.

Just sayin'. It's the first thing I think of when I imagine stretched out humans.


I thought of it, too!

I also thought of the first Fatal Frame, where girls were ritually sacrificed in order to keep the door to hell closed. Each limb, and the head, were tied to a different wheel, which was turned by a Priest until the girl was ripped apart. They used the rope to bind the door shut, because the Shrine Maiden's blood was Holy or something. There's more to it, like how everyone had to wear masks all the time so the Shrine Maiden wouldn't become attached to life, but I'd pretty much have to explain a good portion of the plot and that would be a huge tl;dr.

Maybe they used the criminals as sacrifices to keep the Operator away? Sorry if that's been said already.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:46 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 12 of 28 [417 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, ..., 26, 27, 28  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group