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[Insomniac]

[King Mob]

So, is she back on the chat yet (I can't get on there; University proxy server won't allow it)? And if so, have we solved the problem of determing AI Man's purpose? She said she'd be back in about an hour.

[Mendax XIII]

Is this our guy?

"When the Matrix was first built there was a man born inside that had the ability to change what he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit. It was this man that freed the first of us and taught us the secret of the war; control the Matrix and you control the future."

Maybe his purpose is to show Beth the truth?

[Deneb]

beth's logs

[King Mob]

Nice of them to give us some more time to try and figure this out.

EDIT: I wonder if he's gone off to do some Wongmo-esque meditation?

[bakntime]

Re: beth's logs

[Sunny du Pree]

[amiantos]

thoughts

[King Mob]

I have to say that I don't agree that AI Man is the 'man born in the Matrix' that Morpheus was talking about; I mean, if Morpheus was going to talk about AI Man, surely he would refer to him as the program that he is, rather than as a human being (unless he somehow gained this legendary/mythological status over time/over subsequent 'reloads'?)
The fact that Morpheus refers to the 'man born in the Matrix' as having been born, and having later died (rather than deleted), seems to suggest (to me at least ) that they are not one and the same.
And as far as trusting AI Man goes; well, I would've thought that after his daring rescue of Texel, where he put his own code on the line, would've been enough to convince us that he's one of the good guys.

EDIT: As regards the AI Man is the same as the 'man born in the Matrix' theory, I just remembered that it was brought up before, and shot down that time too - there is a thread about it, but I couldn't find it . Anyway, one of the main points against the theory that was raised, if memory serves, was the fact that Thomas A. Anderson used to work at Metacortechs (before being ominously transferred...); why would the Matrix, or the Architect, have Mr. Anderson appear as a normal ordinary human in one version of the Matrix, but as the One in a later version? Plus, the fact that his body wouldn't have survived that long; the time period between the two was probably significant. Anyway, the thread I mentioned probably sums it up far better than I can; if only I could find it!

[loewin]

oh, maybe someone should have asked her if she knew thomas anderson?

[King Mob]

Sh*t! That would've been a great question - "yeah, Beth, about this Anderson guy that got transferred..."
And we get everybody to ask her the same question, over, and over, and over
This is what I look like right now, without sleep: and I still don't want to go to bed...

[loewin]

king mob, was that sarcasm? i did read what everyone was asking, there were some other silly questions.

[King Mob]

No, not sarcasm; I honestly would have liked to have known what her response would have been (assuming she actually answered the question instead of avoiding it like she did so many others). It would've also been interesting to see what she thought of James Avery's 'picture' in the personnel directory; why does she think it's so messed up? So many questions, so little time...

[loewin]

ok, sorry, i'm just tired

[King Mob]

No problem; I think that makes several of us who look like this: (and that's not just because we got to communicate with our main protagonist; how often does that happen in a novel or a film?)