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[REAL LIFE] FBI Seeks help decrypting message
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[REAL LIFE] FBI Seeks help decrypting message

Saw this article on Slashdot. http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/fbi-wants-public-help-solving-encrypted-notes

Apparently they found these notes on the body of someone that was murdered and haven't been able to crack it.

Note 1: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/march/cryptanalysis_032911/image/cyphered-note

Note 2:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/march/cryptanalysis_032911/image/encyphered-note

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TBH, this is kinda cool. It would be funny if the ARG community could crack it.

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Saw the headline on Yahoo news this afternoon.

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Tue Mar 29, 4:22 pm ET
FBI asks public for help breaking encrypted notes tied to 1999 murder
By Brett Michael Dykes
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EmailPrint..By Brett Michael Dykes brett Michael Dykes – Tue Mar 29, 4:22 pm ET

In what seems like a throwback to the still-unsolved Zodiac killings that terrorized the San Francisco Bay Area in the 1970s, the FBI has sent out a public appeal for amateur sleuths to help solve a key cryptographic clue in a 1999 murder case.

On June 30, 1999, police officers in St. Louis, Missouri found the body of 41-year-old Ricky McCormick, who'd been murdered and dumped in a field. The only clues investigators recovered from the scene were two encrypted notes stuffed into the victim's pockets.

"Despite extensive work by our Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit (CRRU), as well as help from the American Cryptogram Association, the meanings of those two coded notes remain a mystery to this day, and Ricky McCormick's murderer has yet to face justice," the FBI said in a press release today. CRRU chief Dan Olson added, "We are really good at what we do, but we could use some help with this one ... Maybe someone with a fresh set of eyes might come up with a brilliant new idea."

The FBI has reached out to the public with code breaking brain teasers in the past--but they were games, not actual cases. This is the chance for want-to-be FBI sleuths to break their brains on code that is part of a current investigation.

The bureau isn't offering any reward for assistance in solving the case at this time, but the FBI is asking people who believe they may have some insight into the notes write to the address below:

FBI Laboratory
Cryptanalysis and Racketeering Records Unit
2501 Investigation Parkway
Quantico, VA 22135
Attn: Ricky McCormick Case

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If any community can solve it, the arg community can.

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I just saw this on Twitter and was about to post. Looks like you beat me to it.
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So this is actually legit?

I still find that incredibly hard to believe.


If these notes were written by the victim in his secret language that not even his family knew of, then there's pretty much no chance of getting this. He must have written a translation to his language somewhere though.

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It's possible...Last week I saw a video describing the coded number sequences in COD: Black Ops, and how to decode them. Maybe this same method is applicable to the notes? The Soviets called it a "one time pad" meaning to decipher the code, you had to have a certain phrase to filter the code into, so it's harder to crack than the average Caesar cipher. Turn the letters into numeral placements and it would seem to fit. If it's true, then it doesn't make a difference, seeing as we don't know if there's any book or phrase the murderer and/or victim praised.
The video I described is here: http://tinyurl.com/4olja68

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Wikipedia entry is up already: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_McCormick_murder_notes

Definitely seems to me to be too many repeated groups to be a straight polyalphabetic substitution (e.g. vigenere). SCBSolver hasn't had any luck with the standard Ngraph file.

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decripting clue

Using this note, and the top group only,
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/march/cryptanalysis_032911/image/encyphered-note

I put it in one of my decriptors and it did return some interesting results that have words in them:

(Spy and Roleplaying)
~LGRMS ~LNS - NS SAMS ~LNS IMNS-YMNS-ONS-~AMNS GRAMANS~REANSOLE RY~S ROLEPLAYING RSE~LENMN ISPL E~LIMM6M~RNS RY~SPY
**************************************************

So maybe the FBI should check and see if he was in some kind of roleplaying game (maybe he was a spy in the roleplaying game), and the roleplaying game got out of control and he got murdered in the game (who ever else was playing was mixing roleplaying with reality).


They said in the article that he has been doing codes since a child so roleplaying games sound like a plausable theory to me.
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Re: decripting clue

Palm wrote:

They said in the article that he has been doing codes since a child so roleplaying games sound like a plausable theory to me.


That's very excellent work. What decryption did you use?

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Re: decripting clue

Rorschachian wrote:
Palm wrote:

They said in the article that he has been doing codes since a child so roleplaying games sound like a plausable theory to me.


That's very excellent work. What decryption did you use?


I used http://www.blisstonia.com/software/WebDecrypto/.
I have gotten very good results in the past on decrypting things.
I didn't take any time to fool with it, I just typed it in exactly as it was - except it is hard to tell where the spaces might be - the spaces are crucial. I added a space before and after the first dash. The other dashes, I did not add any space. The result is the #26 hit on the list (with rollplaying and spy). Try it - if you type it in the same as I did you should get it. See #26.
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The standalone version (WinDecrypto) lets you parse strings by disregarding spaces in the text, altogether. It's pretty relentless in that mode; But; expect to wait a long time to see anything promising.

I tried working on this for a bit; But I'm not trusting my interpretation of the text in a lot of cases. Judging from all the different versions I see on the web, I'm not alone.
It'd be cool if the handwriting analysts at the FBI gave us their best interpretation so we'd have the cleanest version.
I think it is simple substitution that uses a variable number of letters in substitution. Single letters, bi-graphs and tri-graphs.
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Haven't been on in a while, but this one caught my eye. I didn't think it would be a code per se, but a series of short hand of some kind, since there were too many phrases repeated in certain sections, especially on page 1. I did some digging and there is one theory out there I thought I'd share.

http://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/ge3sq/fbi_wants_public_help_solving_encrypted_notes/c1n4peb

These folks think that the codes are merely a way for a bipolar or schizophrenic person to remember their medication and medical history. It's easy and keeps people out of their business. I don't quite buy it all the way, but some of it does make sense.

What do y'all think?

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Legit.

I saw this on KSDK news here in the Metro East St.Louis area about a week ago. It's legit.

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Not to mention it's, you know. On fbi.gov. Unless it is tinfoil hat time.

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