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[VIDEO] Entry #39
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Banshee 21
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Rosswood was the park Jay went to in Entry 31 right? It least now we know for sure it has more relevance.

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Jsor
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Here's what we KNOW about Rosswood:

1. Alex (or Alex's voice via his phone number, to allow for hacking) wanted to meet Jay there around 1 week after the events at the abandoned house in 35/36.

2. Rosswood is the name of the park Jay explored in Entry 31.

3. Rosswood is split, one part is a traditional park, with slides, swings, etc normal park equipment for kids, picnics, etc. The other is a forest with hiking trails. There seems to be a road that splits the two parts, at least partially.

4. The older trails are poorly maintained, very run down.

5. It's off Rosswood Road (hey, I'm listing ALL things we've been told)

6. Jessica "may have been there as a kid." (Could be important if Jessica was stalked by Slendy AND Slendy has a connection to Rosswood forest as per Alex's story)

-- Things we may SUSPECT about Rosswood, given other entires and [1-6]

A. It was the park in Entry 29, but Jay never found the right path.

B. It was the park visited in Entry 38, which is in fact the meeting mentioned in [1].

C. This entry takes place near Rosswood park (probably in the parking lot). This is the least certain, since Jay could have easily parked on the edge of the road planning to get to Rosswood early in the morning. The scenery doesn't match to me, but we barely saw any of the parking lot, so that doesn't mean much, not to mention it's so ridiculously dark we can't make fair scenery judgments.

-- My Proposed Timeline

Entry 35/36 occurred, one week later Alex calls. That night Jay sleeps near Rosswood park and SOMETHING visits him. He meets up with Alex the next day for Entry 38, and Alex tells him "spooky ghost stories." [Missing Data/Unclear Timeline] He wakes up some time later in a hotel, conveniently near Rosswood park.

Entry 29 could have occurred before 35/36 (possible), before he meets Alex in 38 (doubtful), INSTEAD of Alex (doubtful, it places 38 in temporal flux), Some time after the camera shuts off in 38 (possible), or some time after that in the same general area (possible, but little evidence either way).

My theory (disregarding the anomaly of 29)

Jay meets with Alex in the park, as planned. 38 happens. After the camera is shut off, something happens and it inevitably ends up with Jay waking up in a mysterious hotel near Rosswood. This "something" could be something Alex did as soon as the camera shut down, Entry 29, or something else entirely. However, given the information from this Entry I posit that the time difference between Entry 27 and Entry 38 is very small, possibly measured in days or a couple weeks.

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Very well said Jsor.
One thing that is bugging me, and no one has brought up is Alex's tone on the phone. Did it sound like normal Alex? Or Slendy-controlled Alex? He was extremely agitated about something, and would not even talk to j. Also, why did J feel the need to use subtitles for when Alex is talking, yet not for the voicemail msg?
Also do we know which lake he was chilling by? I know they pointed out a couple rivers in previous episodes, but can't remember a lake. This entry is very odd for me. We see J waiting around for Alex at night in a parking lot. Alex never told J where in the park or when to meet. Very fishy. Those tapes they use are 60min, and now they're recording in 720p so after the 40 mins pass he would be running out of tape soon. Are we to believe that he's changing these out every hour?

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Queserasera wrote:
Olmstead, your analysis of the possible visitors and the implications of each was awesome. At least it was to me. That is the kind of thing that I feel generates more thought than simply focusing on whether it is or is not one person (still something I don't think we are meant to know for sure yet).

But about the park...isn't that the park Jay was asking about at the hotel? How likely is it that the events of entry #29 took place there? I think it was entry 29, the one with the huge drainage tube thing?

If that took place in the same park, I am wondering where it will fit in with the continuity being established here. And how exactly the following events unfold will likely bring that to terrifying, terrifying light.

I am so excited.


Thank you Queserasera, it is always nice to know someone gained some use from your thoughts. And i do believe you are right, the identity of Visitor, while seemingly blatant, may actually be more important than we realize. Totheark may answer the question of the identity, or may instead point to the question of why Visitor is important.

As for the park, and the events of Entry #29 (you are indeed correct). Remember that this file too had no date associated to it, much like Entry #38. It may be nothing, or it may be that these dateless videos are linked to a single event, and perhaps single location, this Rosswood Park. Entry #31, also taking place in Rosswood, gives us a clearer image of the areas build. A plain casual park, as well as a trail winding into the trees, unkempt and poorly maintained. If Entry #29 is indeed be the final piece in this series of videos pertaining to this particular encounter with The Operator, I must wonder who may have met their grim fate, and why. I could indeed be Alex's final resting place we saw in Entry #29, but if so, then maybe he learned more than The Operator wanted him to know, and had to be silenced. It may be that The Operator work in a certain realm of secrecy, the more this realm is probed, the less he can affect his victims. Recent new footage of Alex does indeed show him healthier, and over the "slender sickness" as many refer to it.

Jsor wrote:
My theory (disregarding the anomaly of 29)

Jay meets with Alex in the park, as planned. 38 happens. After the camera is shut off, something happens and it inevitably ends up with Jay waking up in a mysterious hotel near Rosswood. This "something" could be something Alex did as soon as the camera shut down, Entry 29, or something else entirely. However, given the information from this Entry I posit that the time difference between Entry 27 and Entry 38 is very small, possibly measured in days.


First let me thank you for the Primer on Rosswood, it will prove very helpful actually. But in regards to your theory: If the time between the beginning of this new arc and the current Entries is so short, then why 7 months? What else has happened during that time, before all of the current events? It seems, while the time between this all may be shorter than the entire 7 months, there are a few things that I am reminded of.

To begin with, J receives a stern lecture from Alex in Entry #36 about how easy he was to find (which alludes to my theories touched upon about Alex and Totheark's relationship). I think perhaps Alex was following J, maybe even guiding him to the abandoned house eventually, in order to make contact, as well as draw Tim our of hiding. Meaning that while the events in the abandoned house may not be the beginning of the 7 month gap, I think your right int hat it is more recent than that. But days seems a bit short. Perhaps weeks? How long could J have been in that room before his "wake up" in Entry #27? Could he have already been there for some time? I do think you are onto something.

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Jsor, going off of what you just said,

I would like to throw my hat into the "Entry 29 happened AFTER Entry 38" ring. I don't really know why, I just have this feeling from Alex's creepiness that some messed-up stuff is about to go down. Who is with me on that?

I also kind of want to know what IS happening with Tim. If he's currently disabled, then where is he recovering? What is he doing? Has he recovered his mind temporarily or is he lost for good? Super curious about that. How far gone is he? He seems super crazy, but we don't see him all the time...

I'm going to be upset if Jessica is never to be seen or heard from again, which has happened in the past and could happen now. It seems much less likely in this case given the few details we have about her, and I suppose there's time since we're currently covering the time lapse.

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Olmstead wrote:
while the time between this all may be shorter than the entire 7 months


That brings up yet ANOTHER nagging issue.

What's up with 7 months? There HAS to be a good reason why he would have lost that much time, and the timeline being established seems tighter than 7 months' worth. Is it significant to indicate just how much time Jay has begun to lose to the Operator? Or are we going to see something in the near future to give us a reason to believe that he's been out for 7 months? I understand that, OOG, there had to be SOME reason to explain the lack of posts for a lengthy time period, but are we ever going to see substantial reason to believe that 7 months have gone by?

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Woke up at 2 am with the munchies to this :>

Nothing really to add. I liked this video and how it was shot. My first thought of the visitor is it was SM. A lot of people argue against it but even if there's little inconsistencies, I think it was -meant- to be SM. Or I think it could be TTA and maybe we'll get a response :3

Silly thought that popped into my head at the end was it was Jessica.

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Well, Jay was running away and tracking Alex, that could have easily taken quite some time. In addition, I'll grant that the hotel may not be a coincidence, but it may not be concurrent with the memory loss either. For instance, Jay could have been told by Alex that he was "safe near him" or Jay felt that being near Alex's home or investigating Rosswood was important, so he rented a hotel nearby, stored his tapes in the vault over the months, and then, many weeks or months later, lost his memory.

(Fridge logic for this whole season: Where the hell does a presumably unemployed paranoid guy get the money for a cross country gas trip and over seven months of hotel fare plus living expenses? Maybe 6 of those 7 months were spent filing TPS reports at his desk job to make back the money)

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Good point, Jsor, it's likely he did not spend the whole 7 months in a fugue state. But perhaps the 7 months ended with something so big the The Operator just took every trace of it out of Jay's head? What would that big thing be? I guess that is a more relevant question to consider. And--

Jsor wrote:

(Fridge logic for this whole season: Where the hell does a presumably unemployed paranoid guy get the money for a cross country gas trip and over seven months of hotel fare plus living expenses? Maybe 6 of those 7 months were spent filing TPS reports at his desk job to make back the money)


Shhh! We're not supposed to ask those kinds of questions... Shocked

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The interesting thing here is, we SHOULD know the dates in question. We know that there's no chance in hell that either

A. That one tape was a week long, so Jay could just time it in fast forward

or

B. The tapes in that bag were in any sort of coherent order

Which leaves us with the possibility that the tapes are dated, and Jay figured out the timeline via simple subtraction/date comparison.

I suppose there are other possibilities, such as Jay or Alex mentioning "a week ago" at some unuploaded point. The only other one I can think of is that Jay is being a naughty boy again and lying to us, and he really remembers just enough to be able to know the timeline without any external cues. I find the tapes being dated and Jay knowing the mystic 1st grade ritual of date comparison to be the most likely though.

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Uh.. yeah, the tapes are in a coherent order; they're labelled, remember? Except a couple, like Entry 38, which was clearly "unlabelled," as mentioned in the description. You can't have unlabelled tapes without labelled ones to which to compare them. That, and he said the tapes were labelled. >_>

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DJay32 wrote:
Uh.. yeah, the tapes are in a coherent order; they're labelled, remember? Except a couple, like Entry 38, which was clearly "unlabelled," as mentioned in the description. You can't have unlabelled tapes without labelled ones to which to compare them. That, and he said the tapes were labelled. >_>


By "coherent order" I meant a natural order, like sorted books on shelves, where you'd know the ordering even if they weren't labeled.

I guess he could have labelled them "1, 2, 3, 4..." but that would be stupid. I just forgot about that fact, calm down. Either way, it proves that we really SHOULD know the dates in question, of course...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I suspect Troy hasn't thought too hard about literal dates, nor would he release them so he can give himself wiggle room plotwise, in addition to rightfully knowing that people will find something to nitpick no matter what dates he chooses.


Edit: I sent Jay a PM on Youtube asking if he could give us a rough timeframe between Entry 35/39 and when he woke up or posted Entry 27. I doubt it will do much good, but hey, it might.

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Guys, clearly the smudgy figure at the end was the door tossing fire fighter from entry #25.
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I'm almost positive Entry 29 DOES NOT take place prior to 38 and I'm fairly sure it doesn't take place immediately after. Entry 29 was filmed from the camera he has in the hotel while he is holding another camera. To be fair, I don't think we see J in Entry 38 so maybe he puts on a second camera just in case or maybe he finds it(and then wears it? strange...). But from what we see right now he does not yet have that camera.

Also, if Alex lived in this area prior to the events of Marble Hornets and Jessica did too, perhaps they go back?

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Okay, assuming that was slendy I may have noticed something.

There's no distortion in this one, and IIRC there was no distortion in vids where he enters Alex's room while he's asleep. Perhaps there's something to do with unconsciousness?

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