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solnushka
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Magyk wrote:
Excuse me for posing what is probably a very obvious question, but..

Why does everyone think this was a "week" after the rock-meets-knee incident? Did I miss something? Last I knew Alex said to "lay low" and he'd contact Jay when he needed him, he did not say "I'll meet you in a week."

Unless I have missed something (VERY possible) who's to say that the leg-smash didn't occur at the very beginning of the 7 month vacation, and this sleeping-in-the-car episode at the very end? That would make TTPL=Tim a whole lot more realistic.
Plus I kind of like the idea that Jay fell asleep in the back of his car and woke up in a hotel room, not having remembered the last seven months.


TL;DR: Where does Jay say these events take place all within a one week span? Because best I can remember Alex just said he would contact him when he needed him. For all we know, that could've been months.

In the beginning he says that he hadn't called him for a week and the last time they were together was when the leg smashing occurred.

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DHock513
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 		Very Happy the nickname sorta kinda caught on. I only wanted to nickname h(im/er) because we don't have a confirmed real name. Anyways, I guess I should elaborate a bit on my earlier comments. I have trouble buying this whole cane thing tbh, I really don't see a cane, and I doubt he could move that smoothly anyway. My point though, was that totheark has a lot of footage taken from different places by different people. (S)he has the missing audio, which could be acquired by just about anybody who worked on the MH movie, although it would be slightly easier for Alex or Seth (I'll get back to that later,) (s)he has the footage from Exit which also could've been taken by anyone working on MH movie, although I do think Alex was busy filming Entry #13 at the time, (s)he has the footage from Return which IMO seems to have been taken by Timasky, and (s)he has the footage from Forecast which was taken by TTPL, who I really don't think is Tim. If totheark has footage that was taken by both Timasky and TTPL, then I don't see any reason to see that he is either one, more then the other. I think it's clear they are affiliated, but if Timasky filmed Return and TTPL filmed this, then it really could be either, (Or possibly even neither.) Gut feeling is that totheark is still Tim, since I pointed out totheark has film taken by Tim and TTPL, but totheark still told jay "find me," and Jay did find Masky.

And now that I finished being logical, let's have some baseless speculation. If TTPL isn't totheark, then he's at least related, and he was filming Jay sleep. However, I still don't think it's Masky even if he is acting very proxy-esc, but I do believe this is a different proxy entirely. Perhaps, dare I say this, TTPL is Skully? Also, is it not possible that totheark didn't get the missing audio because Tim happened to be related to the project and just happened to get it, but that he got the missing audio because Skully and/or TTPL is Seth, the cameraman?

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With your track record, I would strongly advise against telling people what is and is not incorrect.


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NovusUmbra
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 		Well I signed up just to say this, so.. yeah.

I doubt there's more than one Masky. I mean, we've only ever seen the one, and I don't believe we've ever had any support that there's more than one Masky, and introducing a new one 39 entries in? I doubt it..

More than one ToTheArk on the other hand? Infinitely more likely. I mean, I'm not saying there would be thousands, but maybe Masky is just the 'leader' or something? Or just the only person that does anything?
With the exception of now. Masky is injured, so another ToTheArk person goes out and films Jay.

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DHock513
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NovusUmbra wrote:
Well I signed up just to say this, so.. yeah.

I doubt there's more than one Masky. I mean, we've only ever seen the one, and I don't believe we've ever had any support that there's more than one Masky, and introducing a new one 39 entries in? I doubt it..

More than one ToTheArk on the other hand? Infinitely more likely. I mean, I'm not saying there would be thousands, but maybe Masky is just the 'leader' or something? Or just the only person that does anything?
With the exception of now. Masky is injured, so another ToTheArk person goes out and films Jay.


I sorta agree. Putting Skully aside for a moment, I think that Tim is certainly the only Masky we've seen so far. But, we saw something that looked, at least to me, an awful lot like an entirely new Mask (Skully,) on the last season finale, and now we have an entirely new proxy-seeming person that is somehow connected to totheark. I kinda put 2 and 2 together I guess you could say. BTW, Masky was injured 7 months ago. As of 33, which is before totheark started making videos this season, he just has a bit of a limp. I think the person making totheark videos this season is the same one as last time.

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But entry 33 is 7 WHOLE MONTHS after him getting his leg hurts. If you had your leg hurt like that you would need crutches and you would not be able to move so easily with just a cane. A cane would barely able to support his weight. If his limp is that severe 7 months after and he needs support like you said, then I'm sorry but there is absolutely no way he could be walking around recording jay


There's also no way a guy with no face could warp around through time and space stalking people. This is a series that is based around what's out of the ordinary and super natural. If he had support with a cane, and therefore could get by with only putting a tiny amount of pressure on his leg, he'd just need a high tolerance for pain and no regard for his own well-being. Tim clearly fits the criteria. Again, to say there's no way it could be Tim is simply false. Is it possible that totheark isn't Tim? Of course. It's a fictional show. But it's still the most likely scenario based on what we know.

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With your track record, I would strongly advise against telling people what is and is not incorrect.


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The free hand in 39 is way too lose to be using a cane, the posture is way to straight for anyone who's broken something and in enough pain to require support. It's like we've all decided that instead of considering evidence, we'll make it up to push our pet theories instead.


It isn't too lose for a cane. It looks like it's resting on something solid, to the point where his arm bends before his hand descends when he hunches over. And considering evidence, totheark has referred to Tim as "me". Really, the question is, based on what we've seen, does entry 39 and totheark's entry prove that totheark is Tim? No. It's entierly possible that the man is Tim. Does it make it less likely? Not really, no.

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Myke17
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 		Well in my opinion "were they even friends" is a stretch.
http://i51.tinypic.com/33otwzq.jpg
For one, that would mean the 9'th frame contains an "y", "e", and "v". That alone seems a bit much, especially looking at the other frames which only hold 2 letters max. Also this would mean frames 11 and 12 contain "f", "r", "i", and "e" which once again seems impossible. Not saying it is...it just seems unlikely to me. I'm not sure what it really says unfortunately, but if you take frames 9, 10, and 11 and put them behind frame 19 you get the name "Steven". That probably will lead absolutely nowhere its just all I could come up with haha. Second post...wish I could be more helpful....and wish I knew how to put them all together in a picture so I didn't have to do all that frame counting and make anyone actually reading this have to go to the URL and count frames too, but oh well. I'll learn in time

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DHock513 wrote:
BTW, Masky was injured 7 months ago.


I would like us all to put a stop to this please.

Masky was injured 7 months BEFORE J WOKE UP.
Masky was injured 9 months before Entry 33.
Masky was injured 11 months ago as of now (roughly since we don't know the actual date).

This just bothers me and screws with the rough dates we have.
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But entry 33 is 7 WHOLE MONTHS after him getting his leg hurts. If you had your leg hurt like that you would need crutches and you would not be able to move so easily with just a cane. A cane would barely able to support his weight. If his limp is that severe 7 months after and he needs support like you said, then I'm sorry but there is absolutely no way he could be walking around recording jay


There's also no way a guy with no face could warp around through time and space stalking people. This is a series that is based around what's out of the ordinary and super natural. If he had support with a cane, and therefore could get by with only putting a tiny amount of pressure on his leg, he'd just need a high tolerance for pain and no regard for his own well-being. Tim clearly fits the criteria. Again, to say there's no way it could be Tim is simply false. Is it possible that totheark isn't Tim? Of course. It's a fictional show. But it's still the most likely scenario based on what we know.

geneauxsucks wrote:
With your track record, I would strongly advise against telling people what is and is not incorrect.


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The free hand in 39 is way too lose to be using a cane, the posture is way to straight for anyone who's broken something and in enough pain to require support. It's like we've all decided that instead of considering evidence, we'll make it up to push our pet theories instead.


It isn't too lose for a cane. It looks like it's resting on something solid, to the point where his arm bends before his hand descends when he hunches over. And considering evidence, totheark has referred to Tim as "me". Really, the question is, based on what we've seen, does entry 39 and totheark's entry prove that totheark is Tim? No. It's entierly possible that the man is Tim. Does it make it less likely? Not really, no.


It's not a matter of whether he could.endure the pain. It's a matter of his leg wouldnt be able to support his weight

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NovusUmbra
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 		I just thought of something else. I'm sure I'm wrong, but I need someone to tell me why.

Why do we think that this was a week after Alex and Jay fought Masky? I mean, couldn't they have met up since, and it be a week since that, so there's a lot of the seven months for Masky to heal?
Just on the off chance that I'm right, that is.. I expect to be wrong and have missed something.

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It's not a matter of whether he could.endure the pain. It's a matter of his leg wouldnt be able to support his weight


But that's just it, his leg wouldn't have to support much of his weight if he used a cane. Furthermore, that's assuming his leg really was smashed and not just fractured, which we don't know for sure.

In reality, would a person be up and about under these circumstances? Probably not. Does that mean it can't happen in this fictional show? No. That's really the point I'm getting at.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
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It's not a matter of whether he could.endure the pain. It's a matter of his leg wouldnt be able to support his weight


But that's just it, his leg wouldn't have to support much of his weight if he used a cane. Furthermore, that's assuming his leg really was smashed and not just fractured, which we don't know for sure.

In reality, would a person be up and about under these circumstances? Probably not. Does that mean it can't happen in this fictional show? No. That's really the point I'm getting at.


What does that mean? "Smashed and not just fractured"? How do you think fractures happen?

And I'm pretty sure it's a fallacy to say that's because it's fiction, you're right. Have we seen any evidence of Mask somehow having awesome powers? He's a dude in a mask, who really, really sucks at attacking people.

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 		With all this arguing going on about who this TTPL (as some like to call him/her). We have 2 messages in the video that are decoded (so far). "seeyousawyou" (in the video description) and "AMIAPROPHET". We COULD conclude from these (especially the first one) that it is probably TTA. BUT regardless of who it is. Maybe we should be looking at the messages instead of who it is. If we were supposed to know who TTPL was (and TTA) for that matter we would more than likely know.

Also, that framed message at the beginning of the video (all those white frames) seem like letters that are erased or tampered with somehow. that message has to hold some kind of key factor to this whole thing.

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Geneaux486
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What does that mean? "Smashed and not just fractured"? How do you think fractures happen?


Let me rephrase it then. Shattered and not just fractured. As in, broken in multiple places as opposed to a crack in one.

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And I'm pretty sure it's a fallacy to say that's because it's fiction, you're right.


Yah-huh! That would be a fallacy. I didn't say it. I said because it's a fictional story about the super-natural it isn't impossible.

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 		dude it's not Tim

and goddammit it isn't Seth either.

you know who TTA is...

BARBARA GORDON.

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