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[VIDEO] Entry #40
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shoeler
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HunterEris wrote:
Zaden wrote:
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He didn't comment on seeing him in #23, so I assumed that he didn't notice him and it was just something caught on tape or that his memory was wiped of the encounter.

Plus I don't think we can confirm that it was the Operator in #29, especially since looking back on the way Alex stands in the doorway in #35 it looks like it is possible that he was at the end of the tunnel in #29.

I'm going to go with #40 being the first time he remembers encountering the Operator but it actually being his second encounter, with #29 being after it chronologically and possibly being Alex (until it's confirmed either way I'll stick with this). This is ignoring the 7 month mind-wipe, which made him not remember encountering the Operator at all.

Doesn't make sense to me... There's no reason to assume he didn't remember what was in the Entry #23 footage, and there's no reason to assume he remembered what was in Entry #40's footage, even before the seven months amnesia. And why exactly are you disregarding the seven-month mind-wipe?


I was ignoring it so that I could speculate on whether he remembered it or not. I just didn't want "Yes he remembered it, but not anymore" over and over.

Anyway, the Operator in #23 doesn't really feel like something that would be remembered. Maybe he remembers what is on the tape, but look at what is actually on the tape. It just feels like a delusion that was just shrugged off.

We have no evidence yet to say he remembered #40, but it doesn't seem like he'd forget that encounter since it is so... complete. The camera doesn't cut and there's no warping around or anything.


i mean. he didn't tweet after 23 "HOLY CRAP SAW THE OPERATOR WHAT THE HELL" then post the video. i'd argue that by him saying "all i remember is what's on this tape" is that the tape really is his only memory of it. like, if the tape in 23 didn't film the ceiling, and jay happened to glance up there during it, he wouldn't remember what the ceiling actually looked like.

we can not assume that entry 38 is rosswood, just like we can't assume 29 is either. Evidence points to 29 being right after 38 (didn't have time to mark the tape because THERE'S A SLENDERMAN OVER THERE), but also evidence of it not (where's the chest cam, eh?).

just wanted to clear that up.

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In #23, the Operator is seen for split a second right after Jay turns around and right before the footage becomes distorted. I think it's safe to say Jay remembers that.

Both in #23 and #29, we hear others' words being echoed in low pitch. I think it's safe to say that's the Operator's doing.

Jay didn't comment on seeing him in #23, because he never does past entry #7. He definitely acknowledges his sightings such as in #17 (I think that was a SA post or a private message) though.


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Long time lurker here...

I loved this particular entry. What really fascinated me, however, was that the Operator HAD vague features, and skintone rather than dead white.

Perhaps Alex really did meet Jay there that day... maybe his features were blended with Alex's. Perhaps the Operator's constant pursuit of Alex was to absorb him somehow... after all he seemed to have been "marked" in his birthday video. Maybe that's even why Jay reacted as he did, in shock and horror. Maybe the Alex he meets with later isn't Alex AT ALL. (sorry, that's a whole bunch of maybes!)

Maybe that's how all the others disappeared (they were all from that area orginally, correct?) They are all being taken, one by one...

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I'm given the impression that Slendy is able to psychically subdue Jay due to his proximity. It seems like Jay is only able to overcome this once he releases hold of the camera, but I don't want to push the correlation between holding the camera and being able to escape because I'm really liking the chestcam theories and I doubt Jay would strap a camera to himself if he discovered that the camera could anchor him. Razz
However I would still stand behind the theory that Jay couldn't escape at first because it was Slenderman's will, not because he tripped or something.

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device wrote:
Long time lurker here...

I loved this particular entry. What really fascinated me, however, was that the Operator HAD vague features, and skintone rather than dead white.

Perhaps Alex really did meet Jay there that day... maybe his features were blended with Alex's. Perhaps the Operator's constant pursuit of Alex was to absorb him somehow... after all he seemed to have been "marked" in his birthday video. Maybe that's even why Jay reacted as he did, in shock and horror. Maybe the Alex he meets with later isn't Alex AT ALL. (sorry, that's a whole bunch of maybes!)

Maybe that's how all the others disappeared (they were all from that area orginally, correct?) They are all being taken, one by one...


really, really interesting, but not really consistent with the mythos. if it ended up happening, i wouldn't necessarily be surprised, but for now it's a bit of a stretch. This was our first time seeing slenderman in true daylight without shadows or distortion (AND HD!!! WOO!!!!!). that probably accounts for the differences.

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shoeler wrote:
just wanted to clear that up.


But you would think that there would be a slide at the end of #23 saying "This is the first time I've seen him in person" or something similar.

I actually think that #29 and #38, while being after #40 are not on the same day. I don't see the evidence of that. He may not have marked the tape because it had a certain meaning, rather than not having the time. If it was a time thing he could have remembered when he shot it and put a label on later.

Device: Or it could have just been OOG filming conditions that day. I'll need more proof than that to accept such a theory.
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HunterEris wrote:
shoeler wrote:
just wanted to clear that up.


But you would think that there would be a slide at the end of #23 saying "This is the first time I've seen him in person" or something similar.

I actually think that #29 and #38, while being after #40 are not on the same day. I don't see the evidence of that. He may not have marked the tape because it had a certain meaning, rather than not having the time. If it was a time thing he could have remembered when he shot it and put a label on later.

Device: Or it could have just been OOG filming conditions that day. I'll need more proof than that to accept such a theory.


definitely agree with you on 29 and 38 not being the same day, just givin' evidence.

jay isn't one to say "this is the first time i've seen that dude!", but we're really just arguing semantics. i'll revise what i said and say this is the first time we've been able to see jay's reaction to slenderman. 23 and 29 the video just ends, while in return he doesn't really seem able to react.

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HunterEris wrote:
Go ahead and say it. I just want reasonable proof. Mine is based off speculation, so proof will convince me. I don't mind it sounding insulting.

Well, since you admitted that yours was based off speculation, that takes care of the part that may have sounded condescending. Smile The next thing I was going to do was point out that nearly everything you said last was "I feel", "it feels like", or, "it seems like" and that I try to base my conclusions on the info we're given, or 'facts' (kind of...).

The next point I was going to argue was:
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It just feels like a delusion that was just shrugged off.

My conclusion, which was based on Jay stating, "I'm never going back to that house again," was that he did remember seeing the Operator, and that those memories were displeasing (I further speculate: traumatizing) enough that he determined never to return there. Definitely the opposite of a delusion that he shrugged off.

I think that's a more information-based conclusion.

EDIT: OVER SEVEN POSTS BETWEEN? HOLY CRAP I TYPE SLOW.

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I read through all of this and only a couple people noted that jay went back behind the tree. Maybe it wasn't because he was scared, but maybe a small coughing spree or seizure popped up like when he was in "The Brian Flavoured Tip House that had Masky in it."

I would think that if non-direct meetings of slenderman caused minor health problems a direct meeting with him could cause a #$%@ing spaz attack.

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Zaden: Yeah, I base a lot on gut feeling, but I'm more persuaded by evidence if it presents itself. I thought he said that he wouldn't return to the house because of all the warping around and such. Basically, all the traumatic events, regardless of whether or not he remembered the Operator, would lead to him never returning.

I just have a lot of problems with him remembering seeing the Operator in #23 because it is such a huge event, seeing this guy for the first time in person, and then not even mentioning it. No tweet, no slide, no comment. It just feels unnatural to see the Operator and not want to make a record of it and state it as fact.

shoeler: I think that #40 proves that given the chance, J would run from the Operator. Like you said, he's either never shown what he did or couldn't react before.

pepsikola963: I already mentioned that I thought it was some form of panic attack after tripping.
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Oh, sorry. I was leaning more to the health conditions that masky and jay had (i.e. coughing fit/seizure) Not just an "OMG ITS SLEDNERAPOFJABB" 'foams at mouth

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post 1

here's my theory (it's going to be long and split into 3 parts, one for putting each season into chronological order and one interpretation)


the first entry chronologically is entry 5 (scouting for film locations). then entry 12 occurs (filming and seeing slendy in the distance, alex doesn't seem worried at all). entry 20 (pre filming with tim and his cold) is right after this, then entry 17 takes place after 20 them filming in the house and slendys outside the window)

next comes entry 2 (talking about seeing slendy under a streetlight), leading into to entry 4 (playground), which possibly occurs right after 2. at this point alex develops slight paranoia.

then entry 13 (jay and alex filming at that building where alex walks into slendy around the corner) occurrs. i put this here because alex doesn't seem noticeably antsy, they were really just still looking for locations for the movie. he runs into slendy and books it


then entry 3 comes into play where alex starts taping himself after realizing this man he's seen a few times before is following him.

after this entry 7 occurrs (either brian or seth are with alex in the car filming when alex sees slendy)

sometime after this entry 9 occurs where they talk about alex's paranoia.

next come entries 8, 1,6, and 10 which i believe are all one footage split up into 4 parts. somehow the audio was removed mid entry 8. sometime before we see entry 8, alex realizes he's being stalked and begins to lose his mind, explaining his scribbling. the lamp is the only thing leading me to believe 8 and 1 are connected. entry 11 (slendy in the house without alex knowing, he moves while alex is sleeping and creates a lil breze) occurrs soon after this, possibly even right after 10.

at this point alex falls asleep one night and slendy enters his room (entry 14) and alex wakes up with blood all over his face. sometime after this they figure out that brian has went missing

him and seth go looking for brian in brians basement in entry 22 but they run into something (prob slendy) and seth goes missing as well.

alex moves away and gives jay the tapes. after watching jay conducts an interview with tim (entry 15) and then goes to brians house to look for them. 16, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26 occurr after this. (jay goes to the house/tower, moves, and realizes alex is still alive 3 years later)

so for season 1, my order is

5, 12, 20, 17, 2, 4, 13, 3, 7, 9, 8, 1, 6, 10, 11, 14, 22 (end alex tapes), 15, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26

gonna rewatch season 1 in this order after i type out the next post

(if this is posted multiple times i apologize, the post isn't appearing on my page when i refresh it)

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The way J reacted, was as if The Slenderman tazed him. Awesome...
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Still reading through this thread, but looking at the numbers of those (torture?) chimney things, I think it's entierly possible there's more than one slendy.

Also is this the clearest shot we've had at him?




I lol'd a J's girly run away though haha

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@HunterEris: Remember that he only comments to say what he is thinking. Not commenting that he saw the Operator is consistent with his past behavior.
Remember, he didn't say, "A man wearing a mask attacked me in that house." Because he clearly showed it. He said, "I think the man in the mask is totheark." (paraphrase) He didn't say, "A man was sneaking around outside my car," he said, "It's too blurry to see who the person outside the car is." There was nothing to say. (Arguably, though, it was very quick and easy to miss.)

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