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morscata12 · Unfettered Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 351

I know it hasn't been specifically stated/shown that totheark = Masky. However, I don't know why that conclusion has been generating such negative reactions lately. There are two things we should consider:

1) There has been no evidence to prove that totheark and Masky are NOT the same person. They've never been in the same room together, and have not referred to each other as distinct entities.

2) From what we've seen, totheark and Masky seem to have the same MO. Masky (Tim) hates Alex (during filming, the attack in Entry 35); totheark seems to hate Alex (bleed more, enjoying watching you suffer, etc). In season 1, totheark was acting as a fear-based guide/helper toward Jay, while Masky was constantly trying to scare Jay in a specific direction.

If Masky isn't totheark, Masky is still working toward totheark's best interest. totheark can use the visuals of Masky (Warning) and knowledge of Masky (Attention) to make Jay realize he isn't physically safe. And Masky can use the knowledge of totheark (who "sees" Jay) to consistently find him. Even though they remain on separate YouTube channels, Masky and totheark are still working with each other under the same ground rules.

I think the antagonism against the Masky=totheark claim comes from wanting to keep the story's options open. We know now that Tim = Masky, but it made Marble Hornets more open-ended when those two characters were separate. Stating that Masky = totheark removes some of the more exciting possibilities for the series (sleepwalking Jay? angry Jessica? the Operator incarnate?). But stating that we can't consider what options open up if Masky = totheark also removes a lot of the series' possibilities. Characteristics shown in totheark's films can be projected onto Masky's actions. Masky's broken leg can fill in the context and color the tone of totheark's responses. And if they reveal totheark has a reason to do something, maybe Masky would too.

I like the open-ended nature of the MH videos. But I also like drawing connections that aren't 100% confirmed by the creators of those videos.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 2:46 pm

freyathedark

I do believe that is one of the best written arguments for TTA = Masky. My hat's off to you!

I agree that we need to remember that it hasn't been stated one way or the other about their being the same person.

But, I believe that TTA started provoking Jay long before Masky came around. Unless I'm remembering wrong, Masky only showed up after Jay interviewed Tim - which makes sense, considering that Tim must have gotten freaked out during the interview. Meanwhile, TTA has been around long before that, which doesn't really mesh with him being Tim, in my opinion.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 3:11 pm

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**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 3:37 pm

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onetruepurple · Unfettered Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 570

Also #18, when the audio is distorted when Jay gets knocked over; #33 when he opens the door in *that* scene, and #35 when he runs at Alex.

#20, too.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 4:32 pm

bobthecrusher

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 4:46 pm

morscata12 · Unfettered Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 351

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 5:14 pm

Philosopher Xu · Boot Joined: 18 Jan 2011 Posts: 57 Location: Ontario

Funny how every Entry thread gets derailed on the question of who is TTA.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 5:27 pm

freyathedark

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 5:39 pm

Randoman96

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 6:27 pm

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**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 6:38 pm

Philosopher Xu · Boot Joined: 18 Jan 2011 Posts: 57 Location: Ontario

OK I'll join in Smile

TTA posts videos. It doesn't necessarily mean that he is holding the camera. So who is and who is not on camera in the TTA videos is not proof of anything. In Forecast TTA posts a video of someone filming Jay - it is in no way proof that TTA is the camera person.

As for post-Signal, you could also speculate that TTA wanted Jay to find him, but due to the presence of Masky, couldn't (ie TTA saw Tim there and left).

I do enjoy that we can never be sure who TTA is, or if he/she is even a character we have met yet. All options are still open and we are still dealing with "most likely" and "assuming that" scenarios.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 7:00 pm

solnushka · Boot Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Posts: 48 Location: seattle

Haven't read through any of the pages yet but..
Does anyone realize anything weird going on with that tree in the beginning?
Somebody hiding there or something?
It obviously wasn't the tree that had roots that stuck out like that.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 7:45 pm

7yearsinthefuture · Boot Joined: 06 May 2011 Posts: 26

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 8:30 pm

Geneaux486 · I Have No Life Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 2423

I'm inclined to agree. I think it was just a weird tree. I mean, I've seen trees that had odd abnormalities like that.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 8:47 pm

The Slender Man

Guys, look at the mirror in Forecast. The person filming is Masky.
Can't get a good screenshot.

**Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 9:04 pm