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Biohazard80
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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Biohazard80 wrote:
Random idea moment;
To everyone thats saying that the conversation with Alex could not have taken place because he would not have willingly gone back to the forest, did you ever think he didn't remember what happened? So far, ever time Jay has actually witnessed Slenderman he has lost his memory. This includes the TTA videos as well as the talk with Tim where slendy is chilling outside. Seeing as how he dropped his footage, he would have no way of knowing exactly what happened that day.

Sounds plausible enough but just what do you mean "the interview with Alex could not have taken place because he would not have willingly gone back to the forest"? What entry are you talking about? If you mean 38, that wasnt exactly an interview.

Fixed. Sorry, it was finals week, not alot of sleeping done

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 		All this talk about the tree (and other, eerie/weird trees from this/other entries) has made me think of this:

"My log has something to tell you. My log saw something that night."
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lostbrane
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 		Hm that just got me thinking, thanks OmegaX!
I'm thinking that the trees are sensors for him since he left a trace on certain objects(this case the chimney tree); they saw what he did so he can get there at any point in time and be aware of the goings on in the area.
This then would help explain the Alex camera warping in #26 since that camera definitely had a trace left on it by the Operator. So basically I'm thinking it's instant teleportation(like Goku) except with objects rather than perople.

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 		If Jay starts posting about owls on Twitter... I'm running for the hills. The Operator is bad enough. We don't need BOB.

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lostbrane wrote:
Hm that just got me thinking, thanks OmegaX!
I'm thinking that the trees are sensors for him since he left a trace on certain objects(this case the chimney tree); they saw what he did so he can get there at any point in time and be aware of the goings on in the area.
This then would help explain the Alex camera warping in #26 since that camera definitely had a trace left on it by the Operator. So basically I'm thinking it's instant teleportation(like Goku) except with objects rather than perople.



There's milage in the that idea... Let me see if I understand it right - the Operator can move between places, but there has to be a physical object that he's affected / marked there. And he can move at will between these. Is that your theory?

I suppose then the questions are why and how? If (as many suggest) he doesn't quite work on our plane of existence, perhaps these marked items are the anchors that hold him in. They would restrict him as much as enable him. As for how... well, do you think that the Operator marks things at will? Or is it a complex process? Likewise, does he have to travel by land to get to the place the first time, then can warp between them? That would be a bit 16 bit RPG... And might it have something to do with people - like the suggestion that the people killed in Alex's story were sacrificed to him? In that case, the Operator doesn't make these gates at all, but they are made by us.

Certainly a big part of MH is that certain places are crucial. We have Brian's house, Rosswood, the woods on the MH set, the red tower, that basement, wherever that is. Then there's Alex's camera, which you're suggesting is a mobile version of these. Its like the Operator's "domain" kind of spans these places and objects, so rather than teleporting between (geographically separate) places, they are all the same place if you look from his 'side'.

I'm not sure where to take this but I feel like there's a good solid theory here if we can find a bit more in-game stuff to back it up.

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Susil wrote:
lostbrane wrote:
Hm that just got me thinking, thanks OmegaX!
I'm thinking that the trees are sensors for him since he left a trace on certain objects(this case the chimney tree); they saw what he did so he can get there at any point in time and be aware of the goings on in the area.
This then would help explain the Alex camera warping in #26 since that camera definitely had a trace left on it by the Operator. So basically I'm thinking it's instant teleportation(like Goku) except with objects rather than perople.



There's milage in the that idea... Let me see if I understand it right - the Operator can move between places, but there has to be a physical object that he's affected / marked there. And he can move at will between these. Is that your theory?

I suppose then the questions are why and how? If (as many suggest) he doesn't quite work on our plane of existence, perhaps these marked items are the anchors that hold him in. They would restrict him as much as enable him. As for how... well, do you think that the Operator marks things at will? Or is it a complex process? Likewise, does he have to travel by land to get to the place the first time, then can warp between them? That would be a bit 16 bit RPG... And might it have something to do with people - like the suggestion that the people killed in Alex's story were sacrificed to him? In that case, the Operator doesn't make these gates at all, but they are made by us.

Certainly a big part of MH is that certain places are crucial. We have Brian's house, Rosswood, the woods on the MH set, the red tower, that basement, wherever that is. Then there's Alex's camera, which you're suggesting is a mobile version of these. Its like the Operator's "domain" kind of spans these places and objects, so rather than teleporting between (geographically separate) places, they are all the same place if you look from his 'side'.

I'm not sure where to take this but I feel like there's a good solid theory here if we can find a bit more in-game stuff to back it up.


I agree. It certainly does seem to make things fit together rather nicely, if it can be proven or at least get some more evidence towards it. I would wonder, however, if Slendy's doing the choosing on purpose, and at which point it would have decided to choose Alex (or his camera), since by all accounts the first few entries chronologically seem to have taken place before Alex had any idea about Slendy.

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freyathedark wrote:
Susil wrote:


There's milage in the that idea... Let me see if I understand it right - the Operator can move between places, but there has to be a physical object that he's affected / marked there. And he can move at will between these. Is that your theory?

I suppose then the questions are why and how? If (as many suggest) he doesn't quite work on our plane of existence, perhaps these marked items are the anchors that hold him in. They would restrict him as much as enable him. As for how... well, do you think that the Operator marks things at will? Or is it a complex process? Likewise, does he have to travel by land to get to the place the first time, then can warp between them? That would be a bit 16 bit RPG... And might it have something to do with people - like the suggestion that the people killed in Alex's story were sacrificed to him? In that case, the Operator doesn't make these gates at all, but they are made by us.

Certainly a big part of MH is that certain places are crucial. We have Brian's house, Rosswood, the woods on the MH set, the red tower, that basement, wherever that is. Then there's Alex's camera, which you're suggesting is a mobile version of these. Its like the Operator's "domain" kind of spans these places and objects, so rather than teleporting between (geographically separate) places, they are all the same place if you look from his 'side'.

I'm not sure where to take this but I feel like there's a good solid theory here if we can find a bit more in-game stuff to back it up.


I agree. It certainly does seem to make things fit together rather nicely, if it can be proven or at least get some more evidence towards it. I would wonder, however, if Slendy's doing the choosing on purpose, and at which point it would have decided to choose Alex (or his camera), since by all accounts the first few entries chronologically seem to have taken place before Alex had any idea about Slendy.


Yes, that is my theory. One thing I have just thought of though is that with the mobile traces it seems the camera would have to be on to establish the link. This would make some sense considering all the EMI/RFI the Operator creates, so a magnetic field of some sort being created ties in a little bit. As well it would help explain why the Operator never directly teleported into J's room(despite him having a presence there)
As to the how I think it is more he has exerted some sort of direct influence over the object or around the object. In the case of the burnt trees in Rosswood Park the people would leave the people out to be stretched then burned. I'm assuming it was the Operator that did the stretching and since those trees "witnessed" the horrors he could potentially warp back there.
The chimney at this point is still a mystery to me since we don't have much to go on yet.
The Red Tower/Brians house are areas where he has visited a lot/act as a potential lair, with again him exerting the direct influence.

As to why he does it, well my assumption is that the Operator has this grand master plan in store and that every one of the actuators in this series(oh it the automotive field sometimes modules are called operators and they give out commands to the actuators(solenoids, motors and the like) to carry out whatever purpose) are going along and becoming the means to the end. It's a problem because his intentions/purpose is pretty much unknown and therefore his physical limits are pretty hard to determine based on the evidence so far.

I don't think they are anchors for his existence in this plane, just anchor points for warp. In Entry #2 Alex saw the operator A) without the camera B) at a point of relative uninterest. I think that the Operator deploys two methods in his "hunting" strategy, the first one being the sensor detection in areas he has had the direct hand in and the second one being he wanders/hangs around in an area he thinks will be profitable just so he can achieve whatever it is he wants to.

And now I'm going to post entries + reasons they fit or could fit the trace theory.

Entry #4 - Playground
The Operator likes kids so that could be a stomping ground or area he has done a lot in.

Entry #7 - At this point I'm assuming the Operator has had enough presence by the camera to get some sense from it if though it could be he just wandered by.

Entry #26 - The camera is turned on and the Operator appears pretty quickly.

Entry #33 - Masky comes in once the tapes are out in the open...and one if not more had direct Operator contact

Entry #40 - Chimney Tree - like what has been said he usually is around/associated with weird trees

The more I look at the Entries though, it seems that when Alex was filming the Operator knew pretty much where to find him. Therefore, he most likely took to staying by certain spots (ie Brians House/Red Tower) and also wandering the surrounding area.
It seems that when the Operator doesn't have a direct knowledge of the whereabouts of the person he is interested in/has something else in mind that he uses the traces to get a lock on and then act from there.

This also brings in the Operator symbol theories. Entries #13 and #23 show the Operator symbol BEFORE he is encountered. Now this could be another 'anchor' or 'trace' for warping to occur or like another theory states a warning or sign that the Operator might be in the area and that he just stumbled upon Alex/J.

I don't know there are so many unknowns and so many plausible things...

** I know I'm addressing several theories at once but it kinda happened that way. I think that in Entry #23 the camera didn't show visual tearing when J was teleported because the camera was in the frame of reference. The visual tear could represent another point of reference being bridged with another and that the camera picks that up as a visual tear.

***Him being young/without knowledge of the Operator fits more into the original Slender motives of being around a bunch of kids and then selected Alex for something...

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 		I'm sure this was already said, so I apologize if so.

I'm kind of getting the feeling that the next entry is going to relate back to 'noentry.'
My idea is the fact that Troy makes the shirt/chest camera, and goes into the woods; maybe just to show that if they find his body, they'll know why.
Anyways. Goes in, gets his camera, something spooks him, or he just feels like running, and then 'noentry' begins.

Anyone?

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 		Only read about half the thread, but does anyone else get the feeling you can only see slendy through a camera? Jays reactions when he sees him makes me think so. Why else do a double take instead of bolting.

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 		@iSweet - It's entirely possible that that could happen. Maybe because of what happened in #40 he decided to get the chest cam so he wouldn't drop it in case he needed it. It could be that the Operator showed up at the chimney again so he takes off in whatever direction and winds up at that bloody tunnel.

@GhosteM - In Entry #2, Alex said he saw the Operator BEFORE he had his camera with him. In Entry #12 Alex sees him again without seeing him through a camera along with some of the other actors of Marble Hornets. So the camera isn't necessary to see him(though the idea that he can become invisible has been thrown around). As to J's reactions well crud I give him credit for running. There have been plenty of times at night where I see something that resembles him or I think I've seen him and I just freeze on the spot because I'm so terrified...

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GhosteM wrote:
Only read about half the thread, but does anyone else get the feeling you can only see slendy through a camera? Jays reactions when he sees him makes me think so. Why else do a double take instead of bolting.

Like how in REC & Quarantine the climax rooms can only be navigated using night vision.

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
GhosteM wrote:
Only read about half the thread, but does anyone else get the feeling you can only see slendy through a camera? Jays reactions when he sees him makes me think so. Why else do a double take instead of bolting.

Like how in REC & Quarantine the climax rooms can only be navigated using night vision.


Good thought, but it has a pretty much disproved in Entry #12.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXKZlwoPfBU

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 		Going on the idea that Alex's Camera had became a 'Warp-Point', I think it's possible. But it may be a warp-point only when it's turned on. For example he went away for 3 years without ever seening the Operator (assumed) but the Camera was still with him. Then the girlfriend turns it on and BOOM there's Slendy.

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 		 an idea!
I wonder why J doesn't just get a new camera...I mean I see where you guys are coming from but if I was J and I descovered this I would probably destroy the camera. Why didn't he?

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 		Destroying the camera wouldn't solve anything. Slenderman would still have been on the tape, He would still have made Jay shit another chimney that we just never saw (which may one day grow a tree of its own), and I don't really think that would stop Slenderman. And if you mean Alex's Camera I think Alex probably treated that camera worse than he did Tim.

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