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[PUZZLE] The BRUTUS Files
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yeahyeah
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Quote:

Julius Caesar, Act II, Scene 2
CAESAR
951 What can be avoided
952 Whose end is purposed by the mighty gods?
953 Yet Caesar shall go forth; for these predictions
954 Are to the world in general as to Caesar.


which is followed by

Quote:

CALPURNIA
When beggars die, there are no comets seen;
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.

CAESAR
Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard.
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come.

What say the augurers?


Reminds me of the time I almost got shot for being too cocky..
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 		Oh man, it sounds like our hacker friends are in major sh*t. I assume they've had some run-ins with the agents that are tracking Beth's friend.

So Scratch would have us believe that he was in trouble when he sent the 'help me' clip, but somehow got out of it.

I'm not sure I understand the Caesar quote. Is it another clue that they're moving elsewhere for their discussion, or is he trying to get all high and mighty on Scratch?

Geez, it's enough to fry your brain.

Chris.

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yeahyeah
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umdesch4 wrote:

So Scratch would have us believe that he was in trouble when he sent the 'help me' clip, but somehow got out of it.

I'm not sure I understand the Caesar quote. Is it another clue that they're moving elsewhere for their discussion, or is he trying to get all high and mighty on Scratch?

Geez, it's enough to fry your brain.


The way I'm reading things is that yeah, scratch was in trouble, got out, but now they are all in a lot of trouble..

The Caesar quote is complete, and imho is just his response, not a clue.. I think he is just trying to say he must do what he must do, because the whole thing is bigger then himself.

And quite true.. brain is frying here, maybe it was just the beers wearing off.. :)
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 		Jesse?
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wtf were you into?? i met your precious parents, and ... they're coming for their boy now. look, in one day i managed to get you what you've spent months slamming your head into your schoolbooks over.

god!!!!! what were YOU thinking, you mal-adjusted emo baby? you think I was the one that messed things up? you have no clue AT ALL. i said nightmare earlier and you LISTEN to me, you punk-ass, i was not kidding. bad situation. sorry is a small word for this. i am so sorry. you don't even know.

THEY'RE AFTER US, OK? THEM.

they're going to KILL me. i needed help, and then i didn't, and now there's no help big enough to cover this mess. wtf. i can't believe this. this was a game, right? this was just you, f***ing around, and there was me being better than you, EACH and EVERY step of the way. this WAS A GAME, but THEY don't care. screw you and your precious secrets.

you'd better run


The quote edited, reluctantly, by me


Reading the Scratch messages, and the weblogs on Dina/Ethan at the neckodas leads me to believe that Scratch is the person they were going to meet.
Which means Caesar is Jesse.

Scratch's comments about them trying to kill him and Caesar confuse me though.

So somehow Scratch found his parents and arranged to meet them and take them to Caesar but it' obviously backfired horribly.

Edit:
Update on ethan.thenekodas.com, basically confirming this point.
However Ethan/Dina are not trying to kill anyone, they must have been followed and run into the Monitors, as now Dina is lost!!!
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yeahyeah
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 		^-- also it seems that scratch doesn't know Dina was captured. :-/

I'm not really sure what caesar will be able to do, but I would follow the great words of Cappadona if I were him.

Horribly off topic.. And a Rap reference at that..
Quote:

If they got something on you, son, run


*sigh* I feel bad for Dina, her music wasn't THAT bad..

As for THEM and THEY, I think you are correct in assuming they are monitors. I bet if AI man was there he could fend them off. So now I guess Beth should encourage AI man to go to texel, so he can protect caesar from himself.. :)
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yeahyeah wrote:
^-- also it seems that scratch doesn't know Dina was captured. :-/

I didn't have this feeling. But if it's true, it means for sure that Dina is not Caesar's mother (either he is not Jesse or she is not her mother as she thinks). Because Scratch told Caesar he met her mother,

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 		well from the post on ethans blog, they (dina, ethan) met with someone (Scratch), who could take this to jesse. Then it appears they were chased or something (all three of them) and thats probably when scratch sent the help me message, then dina gets captured. Which means that dina could still be jesse/caesars mom, and that everyone was telling the truth.
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Tian wrote:

I didn't have this feeling. But if it's true, it means for sure that Dina is not Caesar's mother (either he is not Jesse or she is not her mother as she thinks). Because Scratch told Caesar he met her mother,


I'm not following... Ethan's log says that he and Dina DID meet whomever they were supposed to meet.

http://ethan.thenekodas.com
Ethan wrote:

Went to the bar, met him. He knows Jesse, told us where he is. She was so happy. She was going to meet her son, our son.


It's almost definite now that they met Scratch, and that Jesse=Caesar.

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 		i think scratch is our cypher!
or just another program
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surfloser wrote:
i think scratch is our cypher!
or just another program


doubtful. otherwise he would not have been going onto the brutus files and warning everyone. i think he is simply a disagreable personality...

no. quite simply, we can now confirm that ceasar is jesse, and that scratch is the guy that dina and ethan met with before running into agents.

and dina very possibly is dead, or has a crayfish swimming in her belly right now.

the hackers are heading off toward the "high whomp" activity, which will lead them inexorably to beth and AI man. and thus will lead the agents to beth and AI man (already warned her in AIM for what it's worth).

It looks like there is going to be a rumble...
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 		Julius Caesar

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 		I think this is all starting to sorta come together now, but we are missing the part of the iceberg that is under the water.

Why were their minds wiped? And I think that the Collector is the means to the answer to that question...

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 		you know whats gonna kill me
when we find out that oct 1 was valuable info and it had to do with them
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Moatie wrote:
Julius Caesar

JC


Jesse


Nice Smile Even if it may just be a weird coincidence...

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I think this is all starting to sorta come together now, but we are missing the part of the iceberg that is under the water.

Why were their minds wiped? And I think that the Collector is the means to the answer to that question...


Are you thinking that perhaps Beth's Friend might have been responsible for recycling the memories of Emerson, Sylvia, the Averys, etc? If he's been broke for two years now, that would put him before Avery "retired", but possibly not before the Emerson thing...

Ooh, I can see at least two plot lines converging.

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