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Who is the Seeker of the Ark?

Alex
14%
 14%  [ 43 ]
Alex
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Tim
23%
 23%  [ 69 ]
Tim
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Brian
20%
 20%  [ 62 ]
Brian
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Seth
7%
 7%  [ 22 ]
Seth
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Jessica
7%
 7%  [ 23 ]
Jessica
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Someone else
26%
 26%  [ 79 ]
Someone else
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]

Total Votes : 298
 

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dinosauring
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theKVD wrote:
as in perhaps Slendy was about to climb in his window and snatch him up? (couldn't resist the reference but honestly meant as a clarification question)


More or less. Like, Tim was trying to hide his kids and hide his wife. And when Tim had his leg breakded, people have pointed out that he looked as if he was going PAST Jay and towards Alex. Maybe trying to take out Alex to protect Jay. I'm not sure that I believe this, due to the fact that he still attacked Jay at Brians(?) house, so maybe he didn't kill him in his sleep because he loves being spooky. But who knows, haha.

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 		So y'all need to hide yo self, hide the ark, hide yo self, hide the ark, and hide yo tapes 'cause Slenderman's all up in hurr.

Let's go the the times we've seen TiMasky and J in the same place.

1) The house. Masky runs at J and tackles(?) him. Interrupted by a seizure of some kind.
2) J's place. Masky watches J sleep, for reasons beyond my comprehension.
3) The hotel. Tim runs into J, takes a mag light to the dome piece, then is outrun in J's escape.
4) The abandoned house. Tim charges Alex with a knife - gets pwned.

We've definitely not seen any particularly violent attacks on J. More like... scare tactics. No idea what his angle is, unless he truly is completely insane.

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 		Based on the attack, Tim seems to be trying to scare Jay in some way (whether for helpful or anagonistic reasons is unknown), while at the same time trying to cause massive harm to Alex.

That is a good case for Tim being TTA, since TTA seems to not be fond of Alex (Fragments), but I just have issues believing Masky=TTA. I want to believe that Hoody is TTA.

Though, now that I think of it, there are now three masked characters (Masky, Skully, Hoody). This could be evidence for TTA being multiple people.
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 		@dinosauring and @Chest Cam Avenger- We are assuming that TiMasky "attacked" him SIDE NOTE: Awesome use of Bed Intruder

@Randoman96- It could be a cult

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theKVD wrote:
@dinosauring and @Chest Cam Avenger- We are assuming that TiMasky "attacked" him SIDE NOTE: Awesome use of Bed Intruder

@Randoman96- It could be a cult


Yeah, maybe not attacked so much as... charged and shoved.

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 		I believe he did attack him personally, but I'm leaving open the possibility that what we perceived as an attack on Jay was just self defense from Jay's struggle with him. In Brian's house he may have only known the Operator was coming and was trying to grab Jay and get him the hell out off there. Again, not my personal belief but it's certainly plausible.

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 		Not my belief either, but it's fun to think about.

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fjveca wrote:
So this is my first post here on the forums, not so long time lurker but I'e got a theory that could link TTA and Amy, and it's not so far fetched, so please before you sent the operator to kill me read the theory:

I remember that in the TTA video indicator someone translated the binary numbers to the words "He lies"

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http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32450&start=60 I thnink it is the third post in that page

and up until now I wondered that by that TTA tried to say that something laid somewhere as in it was there rather than the tipical thing that meant somebody was telling lies, but then after video 42 and alex mentioning Amy I went to see entry 26 again and around 3:26 Alex is actually lying about not having a camera, so he lies could mean that at least that time he lied and is not to be trusted.

again we don't know what happened to Amy after that video, but I think that the date the video shows for entry 26 is way after TTA appeared in the MH timeline so I think that disregards my theory but maybe there's something I did not considered about that link between the "he lies" and the little lie in entry 26


I know it's been a few days, but welcome to the forum again. I am still in the Jessica=Hoodie=TTA camp, but this argument made me wonder. I never got the impression in 26 that the camera was planted for one major reason: He didn't freak the f@#k out the moment he saw a camera. He had a look of shock, but then discounted it by saying "that's probably just my old camera from college. I probably just slipped it back in there when WE moved." This implies that he knew her in the town of Slendyville and that they moved together. If he didn't know it was there and suddenly it showed up, he would have taken swift action, as he did any time he noticed the operator or his influence, and told her to turn it off or something to that effect. Going on your theory, what if the footage that was on the beginning of the tape she "found" was footage to use for a TTA vid and she decided that envoking the Operator by using the camera around Alex would be a smart/more effective move?

Using that theory, and for the moment assuming it's true, it explains a few things:
-Alex lies, not just about having the camera, but a lie by omission about Sarah being missing. She is, in that he can't find her, but leaving out that she is TTA.
-The tape froze at 3:18, before the Operator appeared
-Why TTA would need the hoodie if he/she was going to be near those two

The one thing that would have to be true for this to work is that not only was Alex keeping the camera to either further his investigation or to "break glass in case of emergency", but that he didn't know she was using it.

It is plausible that after the video cuts something she does reveals her as TTA and Alex hasn't shared that with J yet because he doesn't want to or is ashamed.

One more note then rant over, Sarah could be the girl in the back seat.

Rant over.


thanks for the welcome, somehow that didn't seemed like a rant, to be completely honest at least I think that Jessica can't be ruled out yet for one simple reason, we know almost nothing about her, for all we know she could be lying about the memory loss.

and again we still don't know why Alex was keeping the camera that apparently "summons" the operator, overall after all he wanted to burn the tapes, why not burn the camera also?, but I got that same impression that Alex didn't freak out about the existence of the camera, he was just surprised that Amy found it, and after rewatching entry 26 I think that the last person who goes away with the camera is Amy, and I still think that it was TTA who sent that tape to Jay, so how did TTA got the tape? that actually gives me two possible outcomes:

1) Amy is indeed TTA and that is how she got that tape.

or

2) TTA has captured Amy, hence why is she missing, right after the end of that video while she was still fleeing from the house and Alex was trying to create a distraction so slendy couldn't catch Amy.

Edit: changing the name mistake that dinosauring pointed out, thanks BTW

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 		Amy, not Sarah

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 		A noticing
Okay, so someone somewhere pointed out that totheark's video style has changed since Hoody has been introduced. At first I dismissed this, because totheark's video style changes like every 12 seconds, however I was still personally under the impression that totheark had been Tim last season and this season it was Tim and Hoody. I'd basically decided that last season they were all made by Tim, and this season some may have been Tim's, but at least Forecast and Intermission were made by Hoody. And then I realized it- the weird 8-bit font totheark's been using recently. Ever since totheark started hinting (s)he was Hoody, (s)he's been using a totally different font then the one used in season one, Fragments, and Sidetone. Perhaps I'm reading to much into it, but could whether or not the font is 8-bit or not show who is making the video perhaps?

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YamaKami wrote:
So yeah, the fact that Alex is capable of communicating normally and has no reason to send cryptic videos was my main argument against the mystery tape coming from Alex, and whoops - he did send it. so maybe that argument doesn't hold here either. But I still want it to make sense. If Alex is present!TTA, there had better be a good reason he's going to all the trouble.


I have pretty much convinced myself at this point that it was in fact TTA or Tim who sent the mysterious package to Jay. Or, at the very least, for all of the reasons you pointed out (that I will not go over again here), I am convinced that Alex did not send it.

In Entry #36 the audio and video have both been thoroughly corrupted, making the exact wording that Alex uses ambiguous. What he actually says is

"--hotel you were at, what room you were at, and then get a package delivered to your door. You're not exactly hard to find."

The beginning of this sentence could have gone one of two ways. It could have gone

"She/He/This person was able to find out what hotel you were at..."

or, as Jay assumes,

"I was able to find out what hotel you were at..."

One has to remember that at this point Jay really has no greater insight into the video footage than we do, and it is just as likely given past behaviour that this is another example of his being an Unreliable Narrator. No matter which responsible party we go with, though - Tim or Alex - we're left with the question of how the person who didn't send the package ended up at the return address, seemingly (if Tim never meant to stab Jay and doesn't normally carry a switchblade around with him) with the foreknowledge that the other would be there.

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
YamaKami wrote:
So yeah, the fact that Alex is capable of communicating normally and has no reason to send cryptic videos was my main argument against the mystery tape coming from Alex, and whoops - he did send it. so maybe that argument doesn't hold here either. But I still want it to make sense. If Alex is present!TTA, there had better be a good reason he's going to all the trouble.


I have pretty much convinced myself at this point that it was in fact TTA or Tim who sent the mysterious package to Jay. Or, at the very least, for all of the reasons you pointed out (that I will not go over again here), I am convinced that Alex did not send it.

In Entry #36 the audio and video have both been thoroughly corrupted, making the exact wording that Alex uses ambiguous. What he actually says is

"--hotel you were at, what room you were at, and then get a package delivered to your door. You're not exactly hard to find."

The beginning of this sentence could have gone one of two ways. It could have gone

"She/He/This person was able to find out what hotel you were at..."

or, as Jay assumes,

"I was able to find out what hotel you were at..."

One has to remember that at this point Jay really has no greater insight into the video footage than we do, and it is just as likely given past behaviour that this is another example of his being an Unreliable Narrator. No matter which responsible party we go with, though - Tim or Alex - we're left with the question of how the person who didn't send the package ended up at the return address, seemingly (if Tim never meant to stab Jay and doesn't normally carry a switchblade around with him) with the foreknowledge that the other would be there.


I dunno... "You saw what was on the video I sent you." seems pretty conclusive to me. Taken from Alex and J's return to the cars in entry 42.

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Chest Cam Avenger wrote:
I dunno... "You saw what was on the video I sent you." seems pretty conclusive to me. Taken from Alex and J's return to the cars in entry 42.


Ack! No way, you're right. How did I miss that?

This is why it's nice to have a forum to say stupid things on. Rolling Eyes

Unfortunately, this really doesn't answer any of the initial mysteries concerning the actual content of the video. It's obviously been edited to some extent (the TTA reminiscent HELP at the end), but by whom? If Alex were really so frantic - first running from The Operator, then trying to find Amy - and if the situation were really so dire, it doesn't seem as if he would have the time or inclination to edit and then send such an obtuse message. Why not simply explain in a straightforward manner what is happening and what he wants Jay to do? Then again, not explaining things to Jay seems to be Alex's MO, at this point.

It's possible he thought the footage might be intercepted by someone else and so having too much information explained too bluntly would be unwise - and if Tim's presence is anything to go by, Alex might have been right. On the other hand, perhaps Alex specifically used that return address knowing that Tim was already there, still stalking Jay? Perhaps Alex initially wanted to approach Jay more directly, but saw that Jay had already 'been made' so to speak, and so the return address was a trap meant to incapacitate Masky and Jay was bait all along...

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
Chest Cam Avenger wrote:
I dunno... "You saw what was on the video I sent you." seems pretty conclusive to me. Taken from Alex and J's return to the cars in entry 42.


Ack! No way, you're right. How did I miss that?

This is why it's nice to have a forum to say stupid things on. Rolling Eyes


lol Too many details to remember. I was focused on the bracelet during this conversation.

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
Unfortunately, this really doesn't answer any of the initial mysteries concerning the actual content of the video. It's obviously been edited to some extent (the TTA reminiscent HELP at the end), but by whom? If Alex were really so frantic - first running from The Operator, then trying to find Amy - and if the situation were really so dire, it doesn't seem as if he would have the time or inclination to edit and then send such an obtuse message. Why not simply explain in a straightforward manner what is happening and what he wants Jay to do? Then again, not explaining things to Jay seems to be Alex's MO, at this point.


I agree with all of that. I was so sure Alex didn't send the tape - right up until he flat out stated he did in #42. It makes very little sense. The way "help" was written was the only thing that gave me pause, because it matches the style of Alex's drawings from early season 1. But why would Alex do that? I don't know what to make of him. Is he a well-functioning crazy person or what? He seems sane enough... But then he did break a man's leg with a block of cement.

Just being crazy is not enough to make Alex being TTA a satisfying answer though, at least for me. I need more evidence showing WHY he would need to communicate via creepy videos.

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