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[pravado]

[DHawk314]

[Lithp]

I kind of see what he's saying, although it's a strange way of saying it.

The Totheark videos aren't so complex that they have to be thought up by & put together by 2 different people.

[DHawk314]

[Lithp]

[paladin181]

[Lithp]

There's just no sense in having Jay say there's more than one person behind Totheark. Using it as a red herring is just stupid because there's nothing to distract us from. We still don't have the damnedest clue what Totheark even is.

[DHawk314]

[Starkley]

I have to agree that if Tim isn't Totheark now, he was indeed intended to be Totheark originally. Way too many instances where Tim's path and Totheark's path intersect for them not to be somehow related originally. For starters, you have the whole fiasco from Entries #16-#19, in which someone is separately recording what's going on around Jay.

In Entry #16, Jay falls down coughing with his camera on the floor - Totheark responds to Entry #16 with "Addition," in which someone standing behind a wall records Jay on the ground, coughing. This isn't footage that Totheark could have just ripped from an old MarbleHornets videos; it was current at the time. Tim is the only human that's running around in that house during the events of Entries #16-#19. Seems kind of explicit.

Then you have Entry #19, where Tim appears in Jay's house while he's sleeping and disappears with him for three hours until Jay slinks back home memory-dead and exhausted. This gets a video reply with "Return," where, again, due to the shaky cam, someone has to be recording Jay. Most obvious candidate? The guy who just broke into Jay's home during the events of the video. Jay himself confirms this has to take place during the missing time of Entry #19, because it was the only time he was wearing those clothes.

Other Totheark videos do this kind of thing in advance as well. "Signal," which is posted before Jay decides to go back to Brian's alleged house, leaves a message which paraphrases to "I'm waiting for you, find me." Jay shows up at the house, Tim's there.

The only way coincidences like this could keep popping up is if Tim is actively working with, as, or against Totheark. There's some conscious connection there. Some of the recent entries imply that Tim is no longer running the show on Totheark's channel, given that he's apparently being called a liar (which I'm taking with a grain of salt because Totheark has been calling people liars for over a year and EVERYONE in MarbleHornets lies), and there are a lot of Totheark videos which seem to portray Tim more as a subject than a voice.

"Messages" kind of does this with the "smile for the camera" ending using a picture of Tim's lower jaw, Batman style.

So I'm down with the "multiple Totheark users" idea. Especially because of the fact that we're still getting Totheark videos while Tim appears to be out of commission. The most recent video, "Reference," continues this trend of Tim being a subject - it would seem weird if Tim was still a part of Totheark's operations (ha-ha-ha) and was using his own non-Masky audio to make videos...

Totheark has done this to do things like mock Alex and Jay, so it makes sense for him to be doing it to mock Tim as well.

I disagree with whoever suggests that Totherark is a character we haven't met yet, because of the existence of videos like "Exit." If Totheark is gonna be near the MarbleHornets set so early in the series, I think we should have known about at least his human form (as opposed to a masked one) already.

Totheark practically HAS to be a guiding force for Jay. So many videos have been telling Jay to "do this, do that, go here, come here, find me," like "Version," which all but comes right out and tells Jay to go to the red tower. Hoody currently appears to be that kind of guiding force.

We know Hoody is sneaking around in the woods from Entries like #41. We know someone is sneaking around in the forest while Jay is in there because of Totheark's uploads like "Intermission." Pretty straightforward, it seems.

Totheark used to use the pronoun "we" a lot; lately, that's stopped, it's been more TTA referring to (itself, let's say) as "me."

So, my prediction would be that Totheark started off as Tim (there's no way Tim hasn't in some way been complicit with Totheark, from all the blatant evidence given that he has something to do with TTA) as well as another character, most likely Hoody (someone has to comprise that "us" in "Attention"). Because of the events of Entry #52, Tim lost his memory (again), which is seeming increasingly probable given that explosion in Entry #59, and Hoody got left behind. Hoody is naturally pissed, and wants its partner back.

I can't really buy that The Operator would go out of its way to hunt Jessica and Jay, memory-wipe them, and then leave Tim as a loose end when Tim is openly attacking Alex, who TO associates with in some weird way. If TTA is telling Jay that Tim is lying about something, it could easily be something else. The fact that Hoody decides to leave medical records for Jay rather than a tape or something to show Tim being all not-normal kind of supports this.

I've also thought about the fact that TTA could be trying to warn Tim that Jay is lying to him instead, but I wanna gather evidence for that before I go full throttle.

TL;DR: Too much evidence in Season 1 for Tim not to be a part of Totheark, Totheark was most likely two people or more in Season 1 due to the pronouns (don't see why we should start going on about the royal "we" or calling Totheark crazy when he seems to have a sense of what's going on), and now Totheark is one person again, due to both the pronouns, consistency in style (anger, typed letters, etc), and fact that only one person's actions (Hoody's) seem to intersect with the things posted on TTA's channel.

[DHawk314]

^For this whole thread I've tried to make my thoughts make sense, and I have failed. But you have made your thoughts make sense, and I agree with them. So now instead of rambling on nonsensically I can just say I agree with you, and for that you have my thanks.

Also I see you joined today. Welcome to the forum!

[MHFanLuca]

 TTA Theories

[pravado]

Re: TTA Theories

[The Slender Man]

Am I the only one who desperately does not want Seth or Sarah to be totheark?

[DHawk314]

[Starkley]