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[SPEC] Who is totheark?
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Jordan
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I highly doubt TTA is Brian or Seth or one of the other characters we haven't seen since dozens of entries ago... that wouldn't make any sense.


Why not? Defend, sir.


Brian and Seth, Jessica and Amy are all ancillary characters. They're in a few entries, sure-- but they have little to no development and they're extremely minor compared to the three major players in the Operator's game: Jay, Alex and Tim.


It's not too late for us to learn more about them via more tapes, so it *is* a possibility and why reintroduce Brian at all later on? Could be a red herring, could not be.

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Serum wrote:
Starkley wrote:
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I highly doubt TTA is Brian or Seth or one of the other characters we haven't seen since dozens of entries ago... that wouldn't make any sense.


Why not? Defend, sir.


Brian and Seth, Jessica and Amy are all ancillary characters. They're in a few entries, sure-- but they have little to no development and they're extremely minor compared to the three major players in the Operator's game: Jay, Alex and Tim.


This is grapefruits. Because they haven't done caracter development on one of them YET it couldn't possible one of them? By that logic, hoody couldn't possibly be hoody because we've had no caracter development on hoody. And... what if Seth is actually Brian? theres no character development pointing away from it. Coincidence? I think not!
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yeah, totheark can't be any of those 3 based on the evidence we have

it literally has to be brian or seth

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It's kind of the same deal as when Tim wasn't revealed as Masky. We had like three characters to work with, and two of them were out for obvious reasons. And Tim and Masky had been shown to wear the exact same clothing often enough. Plus all the Totheark subtle nudges. It wasn't a huge stretch when it was finally proven in #35.

Marble Hornets isn't THAT complicated as far as hidden identities, guys.
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Okay so I'm bringing back this thread because I just thought of something. I have a reason I think totheark's not Seth.

Now, process of elimination tells me that Brian and Seth are the only real candidates, assuming it's A) the hooded man and B) someone we've previously met. Both of these candidates would have reasons to be totheark. Alex led both of them to be attacked by the Operator, so it makes sense for them to have gone a little insane, and for them both to want revenge on Alex. So, from that we extrapolate that either Entry #51 or Entry #22 was the beginning of totheark. But: 22 can't be the beginning of totheark, and thus it can't be Seth. Why?

Entry #13, and the "Exit" totheark video. Alex takes Jay location scouting, while totheark stalks Jay. Since totheark is already stalking Jay, it has to be after either Entry #51 or Entry #22. However, it can't be after Entry #22. In Entry #22, Alex decided he was burning the tapes and not bothering with any of this anymore. The next time Jay saw Alex, he told Jay that Marble Hornets was canceled, so it makes no sense for Alex to tell Jay they're going location scouting after Entry #22. However, it is entirely possible that Entry #51 is before this Entry #13, it has to be after one of those entries since totheark is actively stalking Jay. To simplify, the only possible timeline is this:

Entry #51 - Entry #13/Exit - Entry #22.

In conclusion, totheark cannot be Seth, as totheark was already stalking Jay at least days before Marble Hornets was canceled, and Seth was led to the Operator by Alex only a few seconds before Marble Hornets was canceled. In addition, through the process of elimination, I've concluded that totheark is Brian. Q.E.D.

Disclaimer: This is just my opinion. It is entirely possible that I am wrong. However, this is the conclusion that I personally have come to.
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An interesting point there, DHawk.
Wasn't there the theory that 51 and 22 happened on the same weekend though? If that was the case then 13 would precede both of them by your reasoning, which would mean...
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TTA would have to be Sarah


Regardless, Seth seems least likely to be TTA to me right now.

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Alex told Tim when they went to the abandoned hospital that he was taking Seth and Brian out there the next day. Then, when Alex took Brain out there he said he'd already taken Seth out there, but now he was sick. People took this to assume that him taking Seth out there prior to Entry #51 was Entry #22, but that seems unlikely to me, because of Alex's speech in that entry. He said Brian was "Gone" at that point, meaning Entry #51 has to proceed Entry #22. Some have suggested Alex was lying at the end of 22, but I don't see why that would be. I think it's more likely that Alex took Seth to the hospital before Entry #51, but didn't do anything bad to him for some reason, and then after 51 he took him to the basement of doom. So it doesn't have to be the same weekend.

Also, if it did have to be the same weekend, Entry #51, Entry #13, and Entry #22 could in theory all happen on the same weekend. But it has to be that order, otherwise Alex's Entry #22 speech makes no sense.
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ToTheArcanine wrote:
An interesting point there, DHawk.
Wasn't there the theory that 51 and 22 happened on the same weekend though? If that was the case then 13 would precede both of them by your reasoning, which would mean...
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TTA would have to be Sarah


Regardless, Seth seems least likely to be TTA to me right now.


Yeah, except for the fact that...

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We haven't seen Sarah in forever, she wasn't in any way a major character and was probably one of the Operator's first victims. She's dead, so unless she's a ghost with internet access, she's not ToTheArk.


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Well, we don't have anymore reason to believe Sarah's dead then we do Brian or Seth. To be frank I dismissed Sarah
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Because A) She only appeared in one entry, so I don't see here being very important. (The girl behind the camera in Entry #12 wasn't actually played by Sarah, she was played by Troy's girlfriend, and while I guess it's possible she was Sarah IG just not OOG, that seems like kind of s a stretch.) And B) Because Hoody looks like a male. I know we can't analyze body types for OOG reasons, but I just don't think they'd keep having males play Hoody if it was supposed to be a female. That seems really misleading.

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I still hold firm to my belief that TTA is a character that has not been introduced yet. I'll give reasons for each of my character eliminations.

He can't be Tim -- he's Masky.

He can't be Alex, period.

He can't be Amy or Jessica-- neither were involved until 26 or after, which are far after Exit.

He can't be Sarah (I was a big fan of this theory, but it has been disproven) -- Hoody in Entry 61 is obviously male. You can tell when he is hiding the camera and, mainly, when he is removing the camera from its perch.

He can't be Seth -- the above stated reasons about Entry 22 and Exit.

He can't be Brian (the main option now) -- I don't have very *good* reasons, but I have reasons nonetheless. Mainly, why would Brian do what he did to Tim in Entry 61 if he knew that Tim was also a victim?? (Actually, maybe Hoody is a personality like Masky is for Tim. But then why haven't we seen Brian? And why is Hoody able to think and make plans?)
I might be able to develop more reasons if I watched through all of the TTA videos.

EDIT: Well, based on Decay, I see two possibilities. One, it's Brian, who blames Alex and wants revenge. Two, TTA is a new character who knows that Alex caused the Operator troubles.

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Except one thing: totheark is someone who was involved in the original production of Marble Hornets. He has audio from Alex's tapes, he stalked Jay while he and Alex were location scouting, he has Alex's phone number. There's way too many hints about totheark's relation to the MH movie production for it to just be someone completely different. It has to be Brian by process of elimination, because process elimination also eliminates everyone who didn't work on Alex's movie.
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Well, my entire theory that TTA is someone unknown revolves around the idea that TTA was involved with the Operator before Marble Hornets even begun. Maybe TTA is someone who tracks to Operator, or something.

EDIT: New thought: If it was Brian, why would he have Tim's medical files? And, as I said before, why would Brian torture his friend like what happened in Entry 61?

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I still think the 1992 Denver Broncos had something to do with it.

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SignerJ wrote:
Well, my entire theory that TTA is someone unknown revolves around the idea that TTA was involved with the Operator before Marble Hornets even begun. Maybe TTA is someone who tracks to Operator, or something.


I think this is a reasonable theory, it's just that the very first piece of evidence we ever got on totheark's identity way back in early Season 1, was that he was involved in Alex's movie, and since then it seems like that's just been reinforced. So I'm kind of attached to that idea.
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DHawk314 wrote:
Some have suggested Alex was lying at the end of 22, but I don't see why that would be.


Or Alex told the truth and everything he remembered was indeed on that tape, but it wasn't filmed on the same day. Suppose Alex takes care of Tim as per #56, the next day #52 happens and the first part of #22 in the same evening. Alex then goes location scouting with Jay in #13 and soon after that gets his memory wiped, waking up with the tape from #22 and finds out everyone is gone.

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