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Who is the Seeker of the Ark?

Alex
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Alex
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Tim
23%
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Tim
0%
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Brian
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Seth
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Jessica
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Gameboy39
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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
What you just described is pretty much them being in cahoots. They don't have to be friends to be partners.

Also, whether or not Hoody and Masky are friends, it's been made clear that Tim and Brian are. So, technically, if Brian is Hoody, they HAVE to have spoken to each other. Just maybe not while Tim was being Masky.


Not exactly. To me, at least, 'in cahoots' implies some sort of proactive co-operation. I only see Tim reluctantly reacting to the attentions of a malevolent stalker, just as with Jay.

As for the second point, I understand your reasoning. I, however, assume that Brian's transition to Masky, if it is him, would have been a sudden one, influenced by his interaction with the Operator. He would hardly have resembled the nice-guy-stud Tim knew before.

Sorry for the ambiguity.

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Geneaux486
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To me, at least, 'in cahoots' implies some sort of proactive co-operation.


I think UHP (unidentified hooded person) luring Alex into the woods so Tim could attack him counts as cooperation.

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 		Yeah, I think there have been plenty of times where its been clearly shown that they were "partners" (Not FRIENDS, partners.).

But, yeah, people always seem to assume that being partners means caring about each other. Hoody cares about Tim to the extent that one would care about a lawnmower, which is about as far as "affection" can go for an anti-social person. The lawnmower's useful when dealing with crabgrass, so you take care of that lawnmower so you can use it when necessary. Same deal with Hoody and Tim. Tim is useful when dealing with the Operator physically, so he keeps Tim healthy (by allowing Tim to give up his Masky persona for a while) so he can remain useful to him.

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 		I'm going to go back to my original theory that Jay is ToTheArk, because after rewatching Season 1, I noticed that in the introduction he seemed intent on finding unusual occurrences, or as he put it, "anything of significance" in the uploads. Why would he want to do that if he didn't know that there was something unusual and sinister in the tapes?

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Serum wrote:
I'm going to go back to my original theory that Jay is ToTheArk, because after rewatching Season 1, I noticed that in the introduction he seemed intent on finding unusual occurrences, or as he put it, "anything of significance" in the uploads. Why would he want to do that if he didn't know that there was something unusual and sinister in the tapes?

Because his crazy friend wanted to burn them.

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fezstudios wrote:
Serum wrote:
I'm going to go back to my original theory that Jay is ToTheArk, because after rewatching Season 1, I noticed that in the introduction he seemed intent on finding unusual occurrences, or as he put it, "anything of significance" in the uploads. Why would he want to do that if he didn't know that there was something unusual and sinister in the tapes?

Because his crazy friend wanted to burn them.


Yeah, and if Jay was a guy who wanted to keep his nose clean, he would have let Alex burn them.

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Geneaux486
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Serum wrote:
I'm going to go back to my original theory that Jay is ToTheArk, because after rewatching Season 1, I noticed that in the introduction he seemed intent on finding unusual occurrences, or as he put it, "anything of significance" in the uploads. Why would he want to do that if he didn't know that there was something unusual and sinister in the tapes?


We've seen totheark film Jay on multiple occasions. The "anything of significance" thing came because of Alex's bizzare reaction to his tapes, his reluctance to hand them over to Jay, his odd behavior, and the fact that he broke off all contact with Jay shortly thereafter.

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 		Jay didn't want to see Alex's movie go to waste. He probably figured Alex suddenly decided he really hated the movie he made and didn't want to let him destroy it.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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 		Actually, if Jay knew something was up with the tapes, why would he be making vaguely threatening videos to himself?

If yer going the "split personality" route with this, then the "Jay" side should have no idea that there would be anything sinister on the tapes. It wouldn't make any sense for the "TTA" side of his personality to be warning the "Jay" side of something the "Jay" side was already aware of.

Also, no, if Jay was the kinda guy who wanted to keep his nose clean, he wouldn't have left the tapes alone.

You know why? Cuz there wouldn't be a story.

I'm sorry, but this is my biggest pet peeve.... He's a character in a story! Not a real person!! He HAS to look through the tapes and put them on YouTube because THERE WOULD BE NO STORY.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
If yer going the "split personality" route with this, then the "Jay" side should have no idea that there would be anything sinister on the tapes. It wouldn't make any sense for the "TTA" side of his personality to be warning the "Jay" side of something the "Jay" side was already aware of.


Plus Jay's alternate personality would somehow have to have its own body, since we've seen Jay and the hooded dude in the same place at the same time.

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 		^ And so began...

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 		This whole thing is turning into the Toynbee Tile phenomenon. ToTheArk is the Tiler, and Jay is the guy chasing the Tiler. But now the Tiler's chasing Jay...

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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Serum wrote:
This whole thing is turning into the Toynbee Tile phenomenon. ToTheArk is the Tiler, and Jay is the guy chasing the Tiler. But now the Tiler's chasing Jay...


THIS I would agree with. (Amazing, isn't it?!)

Yeah, Jay always thought he was in control of the situation and trying to find out who ToTheArk is, but, it turns out that Jay's always been at ToTheArk's mercy. It's only now that ToTheArk's been flexing his control over, well, let's be honest, pretty much EVERY CHARACTER that's not The Operator.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
Serum wrote:
This whole thing is turning into the Toynbee Tile phenomenon. ToTheArk is the Tiler, and Jay is the guy chasing the Tiler. But now the Tiler's chasing Jay...


THIS I would agree with. (Amazing, isn't it?!)

Yeah, Jay always thought he was in control of the situation and trying to find out who ToTheArk is, but, it turns out that Jay's always been at ToTheArk's mercy. It's only now that ToTheArk's been flexing his control over, well, let's be honest, pretty much EVERY CHARACTER that's not The Operator.


No, no. I meant the phenomenon is similar to the Toynbee Tile mystery. Not the actual events themselves. I was just free-associating.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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Serum wrote:
SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
Serum wrote:
This whole thing is turning into the Toynbee Tile phenomenon. ToTheArk is the Tiler, and Jay is the guy chasing the Tiler. But now the Tiler's chasing Jay...


THIS I would agree with. (Amazing, isn't it?!)

Yeah, Jay always thought he was in control of the situation and trying to find out who ToTheArk is, but, it turns out that Jay's always been at ToTheArk's mercy. It's only now that ToTheArk's been flexing his control over, well, let's be honest, pretty much EVERY CHARACTER that's not The Operator.


No, no. I meant the phenomenon is similar to the Toynbee Tile mystery. Not the actual events themselves. I was just free-associating.


Oh. Well, there goes SheWhoSlays and Serum almost agreeing on something! Mr. Green

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