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I'm inclined to think this is a lot simpler. As Zeta Kai pointed out earlier (page 7, I think it was), even as simple as the doodle is, it appears to match a bit of scenery in #40; I'm betting there's a noggin half-visible behind a tree in there. In other words, TTA really is just taunting Jay with this "Did you see me? I saw you!" stuff.

That's twice in a row now, though. I wonder if he's feeling all lonely in his creeping peeper boots, always watching from a distance. Don't be shy, TTA! Maybe Jay will like you back!

But anyhow--after driving myself batty rewinding and rewatching #40 around the 2:15-2:25 point and telling myself that wasn't a guy stepping behind a tree, just a weird too-dark tree shape, now I'm all unsure again.

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Kaikaru wrote:
This is probably the craziest theory ever and I am a little afraid to post it. This is a huge compilation of what a bunch of other people have been saying on this entry, added in with a bit of my own crazy ideas. O3O

Maybe, very very maybe, the whole thing is like a giant play. And I'm going to go off on a tangent here and use many references to the Wizard of Oz, because in this case, it seems to fit very well with most of the things that are going on.

Everyone can recall in the Wizard of Oz movie how the four protagonists endlessly chant that they are off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz. The Wizard is the thing that they are all searching for and the very goal that they strive to reach. I feel as if 'the ark' could possibly be just like the Wizard. Totheark is especially verbal of how he strives to see it, find it, or whatever.

The Operator is pretty comparable to the witch, or pretty much the main antagonist in the play. Besides the fact that both the witch and the Operator have some sort of weakness to water (or so it is thought, which I personally think is pretty legit), they are both things that are very much feared and make random appearances and cause havoc and whatnot. And here is just something random I just thought of: the Operator wants Jay's precious little camera. Kind of like ruby slippers? Iunnolol or he just wants to keel him.

And with the whole "intermission" and "behind the curtain" thing, maybe this just represents how totheark is kind of like a man behind the scenes sort of guy. And even if he is just standing behind the curtain and watching all of that stuff happening, he still has a certain amount of power over the performance, because without him, there would be no person to pull the curtain up and show the play. And he can just as easily pull the curtain down and put everything to a halt.
One example of how totheark has "control" over the play of Marble Hornets is in Entry 33 when everything seems all fine and dandy and Jay is gunna run off with Jessica somewhere, but something goes terribly wrong and Jessica is gone and Masky is in her place. It would make sense if Masky is totheark in this case, since Masky is in Entry 33 to bring Jay's plans to a halt.

And, perhaps, if our Marble Hornets story is at an "intermission" right now, it won't be too long before they all reach the Emerald City, where not too far within there lies the Wizard, or in this case, the Ark.

Tl;dr everythings a play lol and we mights be seeing what the ark is gais

Hahahah. Now That I reread this, this is pretty ridiculous. I'll see what you guys think.

Excellent comparison, but we could just as easily strike out the "masky=totheark" part and instead compare masky to one of the flying monkeys or an oh-wee-oh guard (looks threatening but is actually a pushover).

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Just posting my theory on some things. I've read through a lot of the forum and do a lot of lurking, but not a ton ofnposting. Although, if I missed a post that said something similar to mine... Sorry for trouting.

I think the ark = the Operator. Hear me out before saying anything. Totheark has not yet shown what side they are truly on, so there is much speculation as to who the man behind the YouTube account really is. Way back, I'm pretty sure in entry ####, the voice in the video said, "You will lead me to the ark." to me, it see,s as though J has been used as bait for our tall, slender friend. Alex called J and told him to go to Rosswood Park. Next thing you know, SLENDY. Also, the time that J goes to the house and encounters the Operator, totheark's message beforehand had said, "Come back, find me." not only did J find Masky, he also found the Operator. But only after chasing Masky through the house. Bait for Slendy? I think so.

This theory adds to the idea that Alex is totheark. Why? The question is more, who has been followed by the Operator since he was young? That, my friends, would be Alex Kralie. If you had noticed a tall, slender, faceless being stalking you since you were very young, wouldn't you try to find a way to find said being? Also, by now, Alex has probably noticed what we all have noticed- that videocameras attract the slender one. By using J to video document everything, he attracts his stalker, thus, the ark. Alex is merely trying to figure out what the Operator is and why he is being stalked.

I don't know, it might be nonsense. But I'm doing the most that any of us can do- speculate.

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Kaikaru wrote:
This is probably the craziest theory ever and I am a little afraid to post it. This is a huge compilation of what a bunch of other people have been saying on this entry, added in with a bit of my own crazy ideas. O3O

Maybe, very very maybe, the whole thing is like a giant play. And I'm going to go off on a tangent here and use many references to the Wizard of Oz, because in this case, it seems to fit very well with most of the things that are going on.

Everyone can recall in the Wizard of Oz movie how the four protagonists endlessly chant that they are off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz. The Wizard is the thing that they are all searching for and the very goal that they strive to reach. I feel as if 'the ark' could possibly be just like the Wizard. Totheark is especially verbal of how he strives to see it, find it, or whatever.

The Operator is pretty comparable to the witch, or pretty much the main antagonist in the play. Besides the fact that both the witch and the Operator have some sort of weakness to water (or so it is thought, which I personally think is pretty legit), they are both things that are very much feared and make random appearances and cause havoc and whatnot. And here is just something random I just thought of: the Operator wants Jay's precious little camera. Kind of like ruby slippers? Iunnolol or he just wants to keel him.

And with the whole "intermission" and "behind the curtain" thing, maybe this just represents how totheark is kind of like a man behind the scenes sort of guy. And even if he is just standing behind the curtain and watching all of that stuff happening, he still has a certain amount of power over the performance, because without him, there would be no person to pull the curtain up and show the play. And he can just as easily pull the curtain down and put everything to a halt.
One example of how totheark has "control" over the play of Marble Hornets is in Entry 33 when everything seems all fine and dandy and Jay is gunna run off with Jessica somewhere, but something goes terribly wrong and Jessica is gone and Masky is in her place. It would make sense if Masky is totheark in this case, since Masky is in Entry 33 to bring Jay's plans to a halt.

And, perhaps, if our Marble Hornets story is at an "intermission" right now, it won't be too long before they all reach the Emerald City, where not too far within there lies the Wizard, or in this case, the Ark.

Tl;dr everythings a play lol and we mights be seeing what the ark is gais

Hahahah. Now That I reread this, this is pretty ridiculous. I'll see what you guys think.


jessica is toto? Very Happy

no, this is awesome. i mean. yeah, it's ridiculous and most likely false, but finding connections like that is pretty sweet. even if marble hornets isn't following the wizard of oz exactly doesn't mean that a part of the story in the future won't follow part of the same path the wizard of oz is following.

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shoeler wrote:
no, this is awesome. i mean. yeah, it's ridiculous and most likely false, but finding connections like that is pretty sweet. even if marble hornets isn't following the wizard of oz exactly doesn't mean that a part of the story in the future won't follow part of the same path the wizard of oz is following.


Also, TTA videos set to Pink Floyd? Totally works.

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On the point about the ark being kept behind a curtain...

If TTA is behind the curtain, that would imply that he has found the Ark. If we assume he's responsible for Entry ##### - which I think is fairly credible, he likes to show he has control over Jay's situation and freaky-ass videos are a pretty well-established MO of his - then he's gone from a position of seeking the ark to already attaining it at some point between then and now. If it had happened during this season I'd have thought that'd be more obvious. (Like, he'd release a video called "TRIUMPH" or something.) Plus, he was pretty insistent that it would be Jay who led him to the Ark, and Jay hasn't really led anyone to anything this season.

So, let's work on the assumption that TTA found the Ark (possibly with Jay's assistance) at some point during the 7-month gap. Then why is he still communicating? Basically, to gloat. His messages last season were along the lines of "HEY I HAVE A SECRET, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS" and "HEY YOU SHOULD DO THIS" and "HEY YOU SHOULD RELEASE THAT TAPE OF THE MASKED DUDE" and "I'M WATCHING YOOOOOU". This time around the tone is different; the videos are almost all to the effect of "I'M WATCHING YOU" and "YOU ARE BROKEN, YOU CAN'T BE FIXED". He's no longer prompting Jay to do things, he's just mocking Jay's efforts to piece together what happened in the 7 months.

So, implications of that, if we assume TTA already has the Ark:

- TTA is Tim. Not even a smashed leg could slow him down for very long - teleportation powers, dude - and when Jay and Alex teamed up to investigate Slendy TTA was able to follow along and make a grab for the Ark once they encountered it (whatever it is).

- TTA is Alex. Having got to Jay, he gets Jay to lead him to the Ark under the pretence of helping him work out what's going on with Slendy.

I would also say that if TTA already has the Ark then that's another thing which makes me think season 2 is all a big staged event in which Jay is an unwitting participant. If TTA has the Ark, then from his point of view he's already "won". Maybe this whole staged thing is just TTA giving the Ark's powers a test run? Or perhaps it's a ritualised thing which TTA has to orchestrate as part of his new role as keeper of the Ark? Which leads me to my third theory...

- Tim and Alex are working as a team, and one or both of them is TTA. It would explain an awful lot - why TTA has access to a bunch of Alex's old footage, but at the same time was recording Jay at the same time as Alex was off encountering Slendy in that building. It explains why TTA was able to get shots in Entry ##### which, to me, look like the sort of thing which would be way easier if you had a second person operating the camera. (That said, I think if Tim and Alex are working as a team then Tim is probably responsible for most of the TTA stuff - it would explain why there seems to be such a close connection between TTA vids and Masky stuff, for one thing.)

Under this theory, the encounter in the abandoned building where Alex hurts Tim was staged, just like the hotel stuff and Jay's awfully fortuitous rediscovery of the tapes has been staged. The leg-breaking was real, of course, but it may have been decided that such a thing was necessary to convince Jay that Tim and Alex weren't on the same sides (likewise, Alex may have agreed with Tim that Tim might have to cut him for the same purpose). Agreeing to have your leg smashed with a big rock is, of course, a pretty psycho thing to do - but so is capering about in that mask and teleporting places. Perhaps the Ark is so powerful that, for a share of that power, Tim is willing to do pretty much anything Alex asks.

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Crazy theory time!
I've heard people say that from entry 38 onward the intro font has changed, and that makes them think Jay isn't in control of the YT channel any more.
Now that we know TTA was nearby when #40 happened, this is actually more likely, with TTA now in control of the MH channel (beacuase Jay never tweeted that he remembered the password, but just continued uploading entries).
Probably isn't true though.

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(beacuase Jay never tweeted that he remembered the password, but just continued uploading entries).


If that were the case, though, someone else would have to be controlling the Twitter account as well. Otherwise Jay would have been tweeting things like, "I'm not uploading those entries, you guys!"

While I don't think the font thing in Jay's entries is terribly relevant, I will say that the font in "Intermission" as well as in "Forecast" struck me as kind of odd. Particularly in "Intermission", where we got the sort of 8-bit feel - looks like Fixedys, maybe? I don't know, maybe TTA is just branching out. =)

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Skimmed through, didn't see this idea really.





look familiar?



and yes I am in the Tim = Masky = TTA. Deal with it haters Cool
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Deimos wrote:
Skimmed through, didn't see this idea really.

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look familiar?

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and yes I am in the Tim = Masky = TTA. Deal with it haters Cool


My first thought as well.
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
On the point about the ark being kept behind a curtain...

If TTA is behind the curtain, that would imply that he has found the Ark. If we assume he's responsible for Entry ##### - which I think is fairly credible, he likes to show he has control over Jay's situation and freaky-ass videos are a pretty well-established MO of his - then he's gone from a position of seeking the ark to already attaining it at some point between then and now. If it had happened during this season I'd have thought that'd be more obvious. (Like, he'd release a video called "TRIUMPH" or something.) Plus, he was pretty insistent that it would be Jay who led him to the Ark, and Jay hasn't really led anyone to anything this season.

So, let's work on the assumption that TTA found the Ark (possibly with Jay's assistance) at some point during the 7-month gap. Then why is he still communicating? Basically, to gloat. His messages last season were along the lines of "HEY I HAVE A SECRET, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS" and "HEY YOU SHOULD DO THIS" and "HEY YOU SHOULD RELEASE THAT TAPE OF THE MASKED DUDE" and "I'M WATCHING YOOOOOU". This time around the tone is different; the videos are almost all to the effect of "I'M WATCHING YOU" and "YOU ARE BROKEN, YOU CAN'T BE FIXED". He's no longer prompting Jay to do things, he's just mocking Jay's efforts to piece together what happened in the 7 months.

So, implications of that, if we assume TTA already has the Ark:

- TTA is Tim. Not even a smashed leg could slow him down for very long - teleportation powers, dude - and when Jay and Alex teamed up to investigate Slendy TTA was able to follow along and make a grab for the Ark once they encountered it (whatever it is).

- TTA is Alex. Having got to Jay, he gets Jay to lead him to the Ark under the pretence of helping him work out what's going on with Slendy.

I would also say that if TTA already has the Ark then that's another thing which makes me think season 2 is all a big staged event in which Jay is an unwitting participant. If TTA has the Ark, then from his point of view he's already "won". Maybe this whole staged thing is just TTA giving the Ark's powers a test run? Or perhaps it's a ritualised thing which TTA has to orchestrate as part of his new role as keeper of the Ark? Which leads me to my third theory...

- Tim and Alex are working as a team, and one or both of them is TTA. It would explain an awful lot - why TTA has access to a bunch of Alex's old footage, but at the same time was recording Jay at the same time as Alex was off encountering Slendy in that building. It explains why TTA was able to get shots in Entry ##### which, to me, look like the sort of thing which would be way easier if you had a second person operating the camera. (That said, I think if Tim and Alex are working as a team then Tim is probably responsible for most of the TTA stuff - it would explain why there seems to be such a close connection between TTA vids and Masky stuff, for one thing.)

Under this theory, the encounter in the abandoned building where Alex hurts Tim was staged, just like the hotel stuff and Jay's awfully fortuitous rediscovery of the tapes has been staged. The leg-breaking was real, of course, but it may have been decided that such a thing was necessary to convince Jay that Tim and Alex weren't on the same sides (likewise, Alex may have agreed with Tim that Tim might have to cut him for the same purpose). Agreeing to have your leg smashed with a big rock is, of course, a pretty psycho thing to do - but so is capering about in that mask and teleporting places. Perhaps the Ark is so powerful that, for a share of that power, Tim is willing to do pretty much anything Alex asks.


I agree on just about every point. It does seem like TTA is gloating now, instead of trying to lead Jay somewhere. But Jay's gone a lot of places during the 7 month gap - who's to say he didn't stumble upon the ark (leading TTA to it) and didn't know what it was, or forgot about it?


Also, looking at those close up pics of Deimos's, I'd like to point out the pencil and papers around the figure. Almost makes me wonder what -else- TTA drew.

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I'm probably oversimplifying things, but I took the "behind the curtains" thing as TTA saying he is "hiding behind the curtain" stalking him, and that at this very moment he is still right behind Jay.
It's hard to explain, but it's like when you're alone in the house, and it's dark and you feel someone might be hiding behind the curtains getting ready to kill you. That's TTA.

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
I'm so very reminded of the thorough analyses art museum curators put on things like oddly shaped rocks.


I can only assume that you didn't disagree with anything in my post, and that you just wanted to stop any future discussion on what I had come up with. Otherwise, your response wouldn't be "hey man, don't put that much thought into it, they're just funny videos".

If you have some real critique for what I wrote, I'd love to hear it. And if you agree with what I wrote, I'd like for you to say so rather than simply mocking the entire community.

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Has there ever been much thought given to the possibility that the titles of TTA's videos are out of order? Like, the name of one video actually referring to the content of another video, and so forth.

I just can't figure out what the significance of the title is, aside from the curtain reference. Now, if he'd posted it while Jay wasn't uploading videos during the season break, it'd make sense. But as of right now I can't think of what this would be an intermission of =/ maybe we'll find out...

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Oscar Langley wrote:
Has there ever been much thought given to the possibility that the titles of TTA's videos are out of order? Like, the name of one video actually referring to the content of another video, and so forth.

I just can't figure out what the significance of the title is, aside from the curtain reference. Now, if he'd posted it while Jay wasn't uploading videos during the season break, it'd make sense. But as of right now I can't think of what this would be an intermission of =/ maybe we'll find out...


TTA's videos have always tied back in fairly well. It'd be a significant change. But since the doodle trees seem to match the 40 trees, I think it's not likely this refers to anything but that.

Apart from the theatrical meaning of a break between acts, 'intermission' is a pause or interruption (Latin 'stop sending'). Every break between videos is an intermission; every response from TTA is an interruption.

"Behind the curtain" means concealed--not just all the things necessary to make a stage show work, but things are hidden behind a curtain, things go on in houses behind closed curtains, aloof countries operate behind [stereotype] curtains. Maybe Jay got a peek behind the Creepy Curtain and doesn't realize yet what he taped; maybe TTA is taunting him with how close he got.

"Always there"? Well, he is.

I'm tempted to read it as a play on Admission myself--"there are doors unopened" vs. "behind the curtain", the tilted head of the Operator as he crosses the window vs. the tilted head of the doodle, the hidden person behind the door and the "Did you see me?" taunt. But I'm pretty sure that's reading too much into it. Also, the Latin's all wrong, and that makes me twitchy.

[Edited, because I need coffee.]

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