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[SPEC] Theories about Jessica's connection to J
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Mantisbot
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 [SPEC] Theories about Jessica's connection to J

Pretty self explanatory subject I think. Here's a few of mine:

Entry #7, (Selection of MH raw footage with Alex feeding lines to Brian, who is acting) has a random girl in the back of the car that is never identified or heard speaking. Her reason for being there is also unclear, as in I'm not really sure whether Brian or Alex brought her along or if she was part of the filming crew. She might have been the female actress that was reading lines with Tim at the Gazebo where Alex was tweaking out and acting a douche?

To summarize:

A) She was part of the filming crew of MH.
B) She was either Alex's or Brian's friend/girlfriend.
C) She was the actress from MH.

A and B could be Jessica. C, clearly not.

Interestingly, TOTHEARK's response to Entry 15, "Advocate" is the first few seconds of MH footage in Entry 7. At the end of it, the camera turns toward the back. Perhaps the girl in the back is the Advocate? If she's Jessica, what's that all about?

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Re: Theories about Jessica's connection to J

Mantisbot wrote:
Pretty self explanatory subject I think. Here's a few of mine:

Entry #7, (Selection of MH raw footage with Alex feeding lines to Brian, who is acting) has a random girl in the back of the car that is never identified or heard speaking. Her reason for being there is also unclear, as in I'm not really sure whether Brian or Alex brought her along or if she was part of the filming crew. She might have been the female actress that was reading lines with Tim at the Gazebo where Alex was tweaking out and acting a douche?

To summarize:

A) She was part of the filming crew of MH.
B) She was either Alex's or Brian's friend/girlfriend.
C) She was the actress from MH.

A and B could be Jessica. C, clearly not.

Interestingly, TOTHEARK's response to Entry 15, "Advocate" is the first few seconds of MH footage in Entry 7. At the end of it, the camera turns toward the back. Perhaps the girl in the back is the Advocate? If she's Jessica, what's that all about?

C is unlikely as we see the actress (named Sarah) in entry 9. She is most definitely not the same girl.

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The girl in Season 1 is Sarah, as TheMorrigan says.

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Re: Theories about Jessica's connection to J

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C is unlikely as we see the actress (named Sarah) in entry 9. She is most definitely not the same girl.


Sorry, I must not have been very clear when I wrote that post:p I was saying that if the actress from season 1 was in the back of the car then it couldn't have been Jessica. However, A or B could be true, that Jessica may have either been Brian or Alex's GF or perhaps a member of the crew of MH, and in the back of the car.

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Good thought on the girl in the back of the car possibly being Jessica. That'd explain why she had similar symptoms to Jay and could have been dealing with the same thing all along.

One thing, though: The footage from "Advocate" is not actually IN Entry #7. It's from the same few minutes of tape, definitely, as Brian is wearing the same thing, but if you watch Entry #7 you will see that the movements we see in Advocate never happen.

Since the camera is panning to the back seat right at the END of Advocate, it could mean that the face of the girl in the back seat IS exposed on that tape, unlike in the actual Entry.

This could mean that we might see more footage from the shoot. More old-school MH raw footage, perhaps? :O

Imagine seeing new footage from that same day of shooting, and seeing Jessica there.

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Surely he would recognise her if she was part of the MH crew though? He worked on the film with them all for a bit after all.

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@Tyjet

J has a whole lot of lost memory fragments. There's one clip from the Marble Hornets footage (pre Alex-insanity) where he's shown quite clearly handing Tim a bottle of water that he doesn't even remember, not to mention the 7 month hiatus from this island Earth. Could be Jessica was wiped from his memories as well? Seems a bit shaky though as he didn't start gettin jiggy with Slendy from the start...

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True, but it seems a bit too convenient that he'd forget Jessica. Plus, he'd have met her more than once, so I just find it a little hard to believe that he forgot her entirely and she forgot him entirely (barring her recognising his name of course).

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I could be wrong, but I was kinda under the impression that the creators had no plans for season 2 at all until after season 1 was completed. Which makes Jessica being in season 1, even offscreen, seem impossible, unless they retcon it in. Then again, she could've been planned early on and just never used. Hm..

I do like the idea though. That would explain why she remembers J's name, but doesn't remember the guy himself (if they were never around eachother much during filming). And it'd also explain when she came into contact with Slenderman.

Also, I could be remembering wrong, but wasn't there a TTA video that showed a girl that wasn't Sarah? Not Skully or Alex's gf, someone else.

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I think the only connection so far is the door between their rooms and the circumstances of why they are where they are.

She's the only other hotel guest. She's paranoid and ill-tempered like Alex and J seem to get. She seems awfully curious about J, just like J's curious about her. She's guarded about her mysterious past and says she doesn't want to talk about it, unlike J who just lies about his mysterious past. She doesn't seem to know the area well, just like J. She seemed to be waiting outside J's room to question him when he came back with groceries. When she's been told an outright lie about why J's there, it makes her wonder if he's experiencing memory loss.

When was the last time you got caught in a lie and they assumed you were experiencing memory loss?

Either she's scratching her head just as much as J is or she's being very coy at making J think she is.

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@logarithm

I'd have to disagree about them not having a previous connection. During the conversation where Jessica asked J about the camera on his chest she said she felt like she knew him from somewhere before. Also, if Jessica was connected more to Brian or Alex it's possible he never met her, or met her only briefly.

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Mantisbot wrote:
@logarithm

I'd have to disagree about them not having a previous connection. During the conversation where Jessica asked J about the camera on his chest she said she felt like she knew him from somewhere before. Also, if Jessica was connected more to Brian or Alex it's possible he never met her, or met her only briefly.


When I first heard "Do I know you from somewhere" I thought maybe she was someone who saw season 1. But I quickly dismissed that as she would have seen the season 2 videos and would have confronted him about it directly. I think its very possible they were both placed in that hotel by masky/the operator and are trying to figure out the same thing. Just from the way they interact with each other with unlikely and possibly false stories.

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So I'm new here, but not to MH. I don't know if anyone else has talked about this, but there is something I saw in Entry #30 that freaked me out:

In Entry #30 there is a part where Jay is knocking on Jessica's door from his side of the hotel suite. He is doing this, as you remember, because he keeps hearing strange noises coming from her room. At 2:32, Jessica opens the door a bit too wide and a face can be seen in the dark of her room. It's a white face with black eyes. I think Masky has something to do with Jessica.
Assuming this speculation may be true, we can say Jessica is being controlled by slendy, just like he has been controlling Tim(Masky). Both Tim and Jessica suffer from slight memory loss, , so niether are aware of their usage in slender man's attempts to subdue Jay, or whatever it is that he is doing.

Any speculation?

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Teltoto wrote:
So I'm new here, but not to MH. I don't know if anyone else has talked about this, but there is something I saw in Entry #30 that freaked me out:

In Entry #30 there is a part where Jay is knocking on Jessica's door from his side of the hotel suite. He is doing this, as you remember, because he keeps hearing strange noises coming from her room. At 2:32, Jessica opens the door a bit too wide and a face can be seen in the dark of her room. It's a white face with black eyes. I think Masky has something to do with Jessica.
Assuming this speculation may be true, we can say Jessica is being controlled by slendy, just like he has been controlling Tim(Masky). Both Tim and Jessica suffer from slight memory loss, , so niether are aware of their usage in slender man's attempts to subdue Jay, or whatever it is that he is doing.

Any speculation?


Can you post a screen-grab or give us the time at which you see this?
A few people have already mentioned thinking they've seen stuff behind Jessica when she opens the door but so far it's proven to be nothing when looked at more closely.

I don't think there is anything there. From an OOG view, if Masky was going to make an appearance in Jess's room, I think he'd be easier to spot.

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There's several screen grabs and a lengthy discussion and such of this in the entry 30 thread.

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