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Tengwarsenna
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Jay is still on the run right? Do we know where he is atm? I had a thought, but it will seem silly if he is a certain place.
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vegetarianzombie
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Tengwarsenna wrote:
Jay is still on the run right? Do we know where he is atm? I had a thought, but it will seem silly if he is a certain place.


I don't think he's disclosed his current location.

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vegetarianzombie wrote:
Tengwarsenna wrote:
Jay is still on the run right? Do we know where he is atm? I had a thought, but it will seem silly if he is a certain place.


I don't think he's disclosed his current location.


So the last we heard of Jay's location was running away from the hotel? OK, that makes sense.
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axilog14 wrote:
We're still not sure exactly when 40-41 happened during Jay's 7-month interim,


40-41 are within the first month at least, just over a week after Alex says he'll call J in 36.

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awakeasaurusrex
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pravado wrote:
lol @ people still acting as if this guy is totheark is a fact

Well, we know damn well that TTA was either filming Jay there or has access to someone's film of Jay there, and the way the relevant TTA post was pitched would seem to suggest that it was TTA filming Jay sleeping. And probably filming the Intermission too.

If there's yet another person creeping around that park whilst Jay's there aside from TTA and the Operator... then that park is starting to get kind of crowded.

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:43 am
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This is total crazy posting, but:

For the first part of #40 (prior to the chimneetree clearing) the AWB on the camera is clearly turned on (as noted by the constant violent shifts in colors). Once the chimneetree section begins the feature has been turned off (I THINK).

When #41 starts (15 minutes later, and the camera has been running the entire time) AWB is turned on again.

Im sure this doesn't mean anything and is just an OOG production error (if I'm even right) but I figured I'd throw it out there.

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McGregor wrote:
Not sure if this was said or not (because I really didn't want to read through all 25 pages of this thread), but hoody does in fact cause some audio distortion as he steps in view of the camera. The majority of people (my self included) believe that hoody is in fact totheark, which makes the most sense since it's been leading up to his appearance and the fact that it's so late in the series to create a bran new character.

Now this could be evidence to help prove that Alex is not totheark. If you refer back to entry 26, entry 35 and entry 38, the camera is pointed directly at Alex at certain times an no distortion is heard what so ever. So this means that Alex couldn't be the hooded figure.

My guess is that it's Brian since he's had some sort of connection to the slender man. Alex never seemed to cause distortion to the camera no matter how much the slender man was in his life.


Hold on, think back to Entry 17 (I think), the first Entry where Jay stated he couldn't remember the contents. The Operator was outside the whole time, and no distortion until someone started drinking water.

Also, there's Entry 15, the interview with Tim. No distortions there.

So it's still a possibility that beings that cause these distortions can selectivley turn them off, for whatever reason (maybe it helps them blend in? Maybe it helps them hide? (certainly explains how no-one seemed to have spotted the Operator in 17). Doing so probably weakens their powers, hence they don't do it all the time).

Point is, Alex is definatly NOT in league with the Operator from what we've seen of his Marble Hornets tapes and from Entry 26, so if he IS Hoody, TTA, or ANY kind of being that causes these distortions, chances are he turns them off most of the time, to help him hide (makes sense that he especially would around Jay when he had his camera out).

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perhaps the distortion of these characters is an emittence of some sort, that can be controlled (in the operator and blasky)'s case, and not controlled (in jay, alex, jessica, tim)'s cases.

I bring this up because I think it could almost be a way for the Operator and Blasky to flaunt their shit, like the end of 41. Blasky turns around, looks at the camera, and lets loose an almost territorial FUCK YOU growl of distortion.

I think the same could be applied to the Operator throughout the series, but then again, this is a bit of an odd theory.

pardon the language by the way

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LaMettrie
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Hi, first post here. I discovered MH this past week and all the entries are still kind of fresh in my mind, so I thought I'd offer an opinion.

Okay, ASSUMING that 1) Hoody is not Tim/Masky (lack of a limp, different mask), and 2) Hoody is totheark (given Entry 40 and Intermission strongly implying it, as well as the obvious "TTA" clue drawn in the mud):

Recall from Entry 19 and the following totheark video "Return," that Tim/Masky kidnapped Jay from his bedroom and brought him to that house with the Operator shown in Return. Totheark must have been filming Return or at least been in the house (that's my strong impression anyway), as it's his video, so totheark is somehow close to the Operator, though perhaps is not as loyal as Tim/Masky. Furthermore, totheark knew that Jay had been filming himself sleeping ("keeping secrets") and must have known that Jay would discover the footage of Tim/Masky in his room.

Also, given totheark's hostility toward Alex, as seen in Fragments and Sidetone, I think it is very unlikely that totheark and Alex are one and the same.

My conclusion: Hoody/totheark is Jessica. It's clear from Tim/Masky's presence in her hotel room and her claims (true or not) that she suffered memory loss that she has her own knowledge of/relationship with Tim/Masky and the Operator. Also, consider how strange it is that Jessica is introduced, is a very odd and intriguing character, indeed the central figure for a few entries, and seems to be very important--and then drops out of sight entirely. It makes more sense to me that she would have remained in the story this whole time, unseen--as totheark. It would also explain why Tim/Masky seems to be attacking her, as he or the Operator may have discovered her disloyalty, not least because she basically outed Tim as Masky in Messages.

Entry #41 solidifies this for me, as we find totheark helping Jay yet again. I can't see how totheark could be Tim or Alex, and I think Jessica is the only other real possibility. I suppose it's possible that it's Brian, but less likely given the many more unanswered questions about Jessica and her sudden introduction and equally sudden exit from the series.

A hoodie makes anyone look bulky, and if you see a hoodie with a creepy mask, you don't think, "that's a girl." But the makers of MH love to throw fans through a loop, so it seems completely plausible to me.

Sorry about the length, but I wanted to explain exactly why I think Jessica is Hoody/totheark.

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LaMettrie wrote:
Hi, first post here. I discovered MH this past week and all the entries are still kind of fresh in my mind, so I thought I'd offer an opinion.

Okay, ASSUMING that 1) Hoody is not Tim/Masky (lack of a limp, different mask), and 2) Hoody is totheark (given Entry 40 and Intermission strongly implying it, as well as the obvious "TTA" clue drawn in the mud):

Recall from Entry 19 and the following totheark video "Return," that Tim/Masky kidnapped Jay from his bedroom and brought him to that house with the Operator shown in Return. Totheark must have been filming Return or at least been in the house (that's my strong impression anyway), as it's his video, so totheark is somehow close to the Operator, though perhaps is not as loyal as Tim/Masky. Furthermore, totheark knew that Jay had been filming himself sleeping ("keeping secrets") and must have known that Jay would discover the footage of Tim/Masky in his room.

Also, given totheark's hostility toward Alex, as seen in Fragments and Sidetone, I think it is very unlikely that totheark and Alex are one and the same.

My conclusion: Hoody/totheark is Jessica. It's clear from Tim/Masky's presence in her hotel room and her claims (true or not) that she suffered memory loss that she has her own knowledge of/relationship with Tim/Masky and the Operator. Also, consider how strange it is that Jessica is introduced, is a very odd and intriguing character, indeed the central figure for a few entries, and seems to be very important--and then drops out of sight entirely. It makes more sense to me that she would have remained in the story this whole time, unseen--as totheark. It would also explain why Tim/Masky seems to be attacking her, as he or the Operator may have discovered her disloyalty, not least because she basically outed Tim as Masky in Messages.

Entry #41 solidifies this for me, as we find totheark helping Jay yet again. I can't see how totheark could be Tim or Alex, and I think Jessica is the only other real possibility. I suppose it's possible that it's Brian, but less likely given the many more unanswered questions about Jessica and her sudden introduction and equally sudden exit from the series.

A hoodie makes anyone look bulky, and if you see a hoodie with a creepy mask, you don't think, "that's a girl." But the makers of MH love to throw fans through a loop, so it seems completely plausible to me.

Sorry about the length, but I wanted to explain exactly why I think Jessica is Hoody/totheark.


I am on team Jessica. I don't think very many people are but I definitely think there is a reason why Jessica was the ONLY other person in the hotel with Jay, they had adjoining rooms and she was having slendy-sickness. Why would she pop up in season 2??? Jay never posts footage of himself interacting with "normal" strangers more than once. Jessica is a key to something but it just hasn't been shown yet.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
pravado wrote:
lol @ people still acting as if this guy is totheark is a fact

Well, we know damn well that TTA was either filming Jay there or has access to someone's film of Jay there, and the way the relevant TTA post was pitched would seem to suggest that it was TTA filming Jay sleeping. And probably filming the Intermission too.

If there's yet another person creeping around that park whilst Jay's there aside from TTA and the Operator... then that park is starting to get kind of crowded.


masky was all over jay's room in 19. that same night tta filmed jay with the operator in the house. if you believe tim and tta are separate entities, it got pretty crowed there as well. it's a big park. i've no problem believing there's more than 1 person following jay.

concerning if this is the moment jay lost his memory: probably not. in 38, which comes after all of this, jay seems pretty normal, like he hasn't lost his memory or anything. i've a feeling his memory loss occurs much later, somewhere around whenever 29 occurs.

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pinkee808 wrote:
I am on team Jessica. I don't think very many people are but I definitely think there is a reason why Jessica was the ONLY other person in the hotel with Jay, they had adjoining rooms and she was having slendy-sickness. Why would she pop up in season 2??? Jay never posts footage of himself interacting with "normal" strangers more than once. Jessica is a key to something but it just hasn't been shown yet.


That's right, the fact that Jessica has the slendersickness also indicates that she has her own connection to the Operator. And if TTA was filming in Return, then clearly he/she is close to the Operator...

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Damn it, of all the names for TTA that could have caught on, Brauley had to choose George.

So it actually caught on?

HECK YEAH!!!!

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pravado wrote:
lol @ people still acting as if this guy is totheark is a fact


You there. Stop being an ass. I can tolerate differing opinions, but not people who are douchebags about it.

TTA posted a video saying that he was IN THE PARK. And, we see some new person with a mask thoughtfully returning Jay's camera, but somehow you people dump your drawers and assume, "well, obviously that can't be totheark, that just wouldn't make sense".

Sometimes it's good to look for deeper meanings in things, but a lot of the time it's better to just stick to what actually makes frigging sense.
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Randoman96 wrote:
You there. Stop being an ass. I can tolerate differing opinions, but not people who are douchebags about it.

TTA posted a video saying that he was IN THE PARK. And, we see some new person with a mask thoughtfully returning Jay's camera, but somehow you people dump your drawers and assume, "well, obviously that can't be totheark, that just wouldn't make sense".


Please don't tell someone to stop being an ass and then turn around and do exactly the same thing. It kind of kills the message you're trying to get across.

The problem with assuming anything in Marble Hornets is that they like to throw us curveballs. They give us very little information with which to figure out what we're dealing with (and I'm sure they enjoy watching us flail around in the dark, sadists). There is a problem with either side claiming the other is stupid for believing what they believe, or insulting an entire group of people based on what theory they hold to. It discourages discussion, and starts fights, and don't bloody do it.

That goes for anyone who might be tempted to think they have the ultimate truth and the only answer.

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