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Third-person view, Opinions?
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CelestialFiend
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Third-person view, Opinions?
Wondering how this would be recieved

I have been pondering how well a third person style slender man story/arg would be received by the general viewing populace.
I would greatly appreciate any opinions or advice on the subject anyone has to offer.

And by third person I am considering surveillance cameras, static cameras etc

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It really depends on how well it's done. The surveillance-style camera shots worked fairly well for EMH and TT when they did them, and MH did some similar stuff as well. I just don't know how an entire series based around that concept would work.

Perhaps not entirely third-person. Like have at least one video where the person setting up the surveillance cameras talks about his suspicions.
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That's an interesting idea and I wonder if it could be pulled off with only visual clues, no talking or dialogue. Would that lend a creepy air to the videos?

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Alloflifedecays
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I think it would be too revealing. Unless it was very tightly stuck to one character, the reason why the first person stuff, and primarily first-person horror such as Paranormal Activities, is so scary is that, in this age of instant information overload, we're cut off. By comparison, Paranormal Activities 2 had surveillance cameras, showed us everything, and wasn't as scary. We don't know all of what's going on. The lack of information unnerves us, and it makes it scary. It also makes the thread more immediate.

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Alloflifedecays wrote:
I think it would be too revealing. Unless it was very tightly stuck to one character, the reason why the first person stuff, and primarily first-person horror such as Paranormal Activities, is so scary is that, in this age of instant information overload, we're cut off. By comparison, Paranormal Activities 2 had surveillance cameras, showed us everything, and wasn't as scary. We don't know all of what's going on. The lack of information unnerves us, and it makes it scary. It also makes the thread more immediate.


I think the OP means nonmoving cameras. Like, Slenderman's influence on a static surveillance camera.
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CelestialFiend wrote:
That's an interesting idea and I wonder if it could be pulled off with only visual clues, no talking or dialogue. Would that lend a creepy air to the videos?


That would certainly be interesting for a few videos, but I think an entire series based off of static/surveillance cameras with no audio would get rather old fast.

But I could be wrong. It would certainly have the potential for a whole different type of atmosphere and creepiness.

It would really hinge on characterization, and really endearing the character to the audience, because it seems to me that the key element of scare in surveillance footage is what the viewer can see but the character can't. The audience has to wish they could tell the character on screen to watch out or look behind him, although they can't, because they care about the character(s).

But that's just how I see it.

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I agree with Jim. It would be interesting for a while, and it would almost certainly be creepy, but it'd be hard to convey a story with it, and there's literally no way you could explain it being uploaded to the internet (IG) without adding in an outside source who would most likely have to get pulled into the events.

Holy shit, that's actually a pretty good idea.
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Acora wrote:
I agree with Jim. It would be interesting for a while, and it would almost certainly be creepy, but it'd be hard to convey a story with it, and there's literally no way you could explain it being uploaded to the internet (IG) without adding in an outside source who would most likely have to get pulled into the events.

Holy shit, that's actually a pretty good idea.


Let it be remembered. If this happens, Acora called that shit.

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Thank you for the opinions.
I need to correct myself from earlier...I meant to say no audio from the person maintaining the cameras and uploading the videos. The characters would absolutely have audio and dialogue.

and Acora hit the nail on the head about the outside source getting pulled into the story later on, that would be creepy and awesome imo.

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JustJim wrote:
Acora wrote:
I agree with Jim. It would be interesting for a while, and it would almost certainly be creepy, but it'd be hard to convey a story with it, and there's literally no way you could explain it being uploaded to the internet (IG) without adding in an outside source who would most likely have to get pulled into the events.

Holy shit, that's actually a pretty good idea.


Let it be remembered. If this happens, Acora called that shit.
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I'm going to expand on Acora's idea a bit, mainly because I'm bored and feel like scaring myself . Say we have a protagonist who remains essentially silent. He watches the footage from the viewer's perspective. Perhaps he installed the security cameras and that's why he watches them. It could perhaps be in a mental ward somewhere, even, and the director has chosen to specialize in observation of patients that all show classic Slendy symptoms and have all wound up in the loony bin.

For a few entries, we watch a few select patients go about their craziness in their own unique ways. Each one has slightly different habits. Eventually, we start see signs of our Tall friend through windows, brief glimpses, or even just off camera somehow with the patients freaking out. The key is that He doesn't seem to be reacting to the camera. It's all about the patients/victims. His presence gets increasingly obvious and threatening, with the subjects constantly losing their minds even more. But for whatever reason, the observer does not interact. He's essentially us.

Then after the schtick that's been established thus far begins to grow old, there's an entry where Slendy just straight up walks into the ward and kills the subjects/scares them into killing themselves and he slowly ... turns... towards... the camera.

High Octane Nightmare Fuel, much?

Btw, I just realized this idea is essentially turning Rear Window into a Slendy vlog.

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JustJim wrote:
I'm going to expand on Acora's idea a bit, mainly because I'm bored and feel like scaring myself . Say we have a protagonist who remains essentially silent. He watches the footage from the viewer's perspective. Perhaps he installed the security cameras and that's why he watches them. It could perhaps be in a mental ward somewhere, even, and the director has chosen to specialize in observation of patients that all show classic Slendy symptoms and have all wound up in the loony bin.

For a few entries, we watch a few select patients go about their craziness in their own unique ways. Each one has slightly different habits. Eventually, we start see signs of our Tall friend through windows, brief glimpses, or even just off camera somehow with the patients freaking out. The key is that He doesn't seem to be reacting to the camera. It's all about the patients/victims. His presence gets increasingly obvious and threatening, with the subjects constantly losing their minds even more. But for whatever reason, the observer does not interact. He's essentially us.

Then after the schtick that's been established thus far begins to grow old, there's an entry where Slendy just straight up walks into the ward and kills the subjects/scares them into killing themselves and he slowly ... turns... towards... the camera.

High Octane Nightmare Fuel, much?

Btw, I just realized this idea is essentially turning Rear Window into a Slendy vlog.
Fuck. Just fuck.
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Acora wrote:
JustJim wrote:
I'm going to expand on Acora's idea a bit, mainly because I'm bored and feel like scaring myself . Say we have a protagonist who remains essentially silent. He watches the footage from the viewer's perspective. Perhaps he installed the security cameras and that's why he watches them. It could perhaps be in a mental ward somewhere, even, and the director has chosen to specialize in observation of patients that all show classic Slendy symptoms and have all wound up in the loony bin.

For a few entries, we watch a few select patients go about their craziness in their own unique ways. Each one has slightly different habits. Eventually, we start see signs of our Tall friend through windows, brief glimpses, or even just off camera somehow with the patients freaking out. The key is that He doesn't seem to be reacting to the camera. It's all about the patients/victims. His presence gets increasingly obvious and threatening, with the subjects constantly losing their minds even more. But for whatever reason, the observer does not interact. He's essentially us.

Then after the schtick that's been established thus far begins to grow old, there's an entry where Slendy just straight up walks into the ward and kills the subjects/scares them into killing themselves and he slowly ... turns... towards... the camera.

High Octane Nightmare Fuel, much?

Btw, I just realized this idea is essentially turning Rear Window into a Slendy vlog.
Fuck. Just fuck.


Why thank you. I'm a writer myself. Perhaps if I could find a more film-y person this little idea could become a reality.

In which case I should probably delete that post...

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JustJim wrote:
Acora wrote:
JustJim wrote:
I'm going to expand on Acora's idea a bit, mainly because I'm bored and feel like scaring myself . Say we have a protagonist who remains essentially silent. He watches the footage from the viewer's perspective. Perhaps he installed the security cameras and that's why he watches them. It could perhaps be in a mental ward somewhere, even, and the director has chosen to specialize in observation of patients that all show classic Slendy symptoms and have all wound up in the loony bin.

For a few entries, we watch a few select patients go about their craziness in their own unique ways. Each one has slightly different habits. Eventually, we start see signs of our Tall friend through windows, brief glimpses, or even just off camera somehow with the patients freaking out. The key is that He doesn't seem to be reacting to the camera. It's all about the patients/victims. His presence gets increasingly obvious and threatening, with the subjects constantly losing their minds even more. But for whatever reason, the observer does not interact. He's essentially us.

Then after the schtick that's been established thus far begins to grow old, there's an entry where Slendy just straight up walks into the ward and kills the subjects/scares them into killing themselves and he slowly ... turns... towards... the camera.

High Octane Nightmare Fuel, much?

Btw, I just realized this idea is essentially turning Rear Window into a Slendy vlog.
Fuck. Just fuck.


Why thank you. I'm a writer myself. Perhaps if I could find a more film-y person this little idea could become a reality.

In which case I should probably delete that post...
I would volunteer, but I doubt I live anywhere near you, and besides, I'm already going to be participating in a Slender Series of my own creation. Eventually.
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Damn, I just moved away from college, too. So there's not a surplus of T-Com people looking for shit to do. I might have to go on the hunt.

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