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TALL MAN AWARDS 2011
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SolDL
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Aaah, the classic "I'm leaving the forum FOREVER" maneuver. Formulated in 1941 by passive-aggressive Swiss scientists, this maneuver entails drumming up sympathy through your own self-loathing in order to stealthily win an argument because nobody wants to push you over the edge, and make you go off and kill yourself. It often involves a pouring out of FEELINGS TM that would not be appropriate if it wasn't in a post filled with heart-felt apologies and admitting you are completely wrong: if not for the final tagline which exposes this maneuver as what it is, a tactical approach to making the other sorry bastard admit he was out of line.

People are allowed to dislike blogs for precisely the same reasons you're talking about them being amazing. They have the luxury to be able to make shit up as they go along, which vlogs just can't do if they want to maintain cohesion.

But more importantly, half the blogs these days are just continuing the massive circle-jerk that is the Slenderblogging community. You need to read half the existing blogs to know who all these characters are, the crossovers just seem to be there for the sake of the author's own friendships with other writers, and it just doesn't work. I can see why people are frustrated with the blogs and don't want to touch them, the mythology is so dense and fantasy-like that the minimalistic fear that made up the original mythos is all but gone in favor of "WE ARE GOING ON A ROAD TRIP WITH ALL OUR FRIENDS AND THERE ARE PROXIES AND REVERENTS FOLLOWING US AND SLENDERMAN IS ALSO INVOLVED SOMEHOW." THAT is another reason the vlogs are preferred, they maintain a relationship with the fanbase, compared to the blogs, which maintain a relationship with other writers.

I used to read a lot of the blogs, and enjoy them. Hell, I used to review them because I wanted to bring them more to the spotlight. But the blogs forcing people to read other blogs to stay up-to-date with them are an exercise in idiocy. Nobody has the patience to do that unless they are really invested in it.

People read blogs because they are genuinely interested in what they have to say, not because a committee put in a whole load of effort to make a post. If you're disappointed that blogs don't get enough attention, try finding one that caters to its audience a little more.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:56 pm
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SolDL wrote:
You need to read half the existing blogs to know who all these characters are

this is one of the main things that makes me hesitant to read blogs. They become kinda hard to follow unless you are caught up on all of the ones involved. Not saying I wouldn't read stuff just because of that, but meh.

Erm, on the actual topic, I don't see why the big three should be left out. I could very easily see other vlogs winning in other categories.

/ducks and hides

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qaqa wrote:
So as for Core Theory, etc., sorry, baby, but if I wanted to read Green Lantern I can go shop at Forbidden Planet.


Christ. I take offense to this. Comparing Core Theory to GL is a goddamn insult to GL. And you /know/ it.

That said, this got way out of hand way the hell too fast. I think that if there's an attempt to restart this in the future, it needs to be run by /multiple/ people, and it needs to be run through the mods. I've been on far too many forums where shit like this happens, and if there isn't any oversight, and/or if that oversight doesn't have oversight, then it just goes to pot almost immediately.

There's my two cents.
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qaqa
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Cougar Draven wrote:
Christ. I take offense to this. Comparing Core Theory to GL is a goddamn insult to GL. And you /know/ it.


Not when we're talking Emerald Twilight.

trololololololo

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Just my two cents.

1.) "Core Theory" doesn't equal "People who ruined Core Theory".
2.) @SolDL: There's a kind of Online Newspaper about the ongoings in the blogsphere now to make following easier.
3.) Doesn't that mean I don't see your point though.

More on topic: I approve of the idea of up to five nominees for every category. I also approve of the idea to leave out the Big Three, as well as the Big Three of the blogs. They would likely win due to bigger popularity, not necessarily due to better quality. Also, people tend to give props to things for having been the first things they discovered (proof: every ridiculous show you love for the reason of nostalgia) instead of quality.
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This is really becoming an entirely separate debate, and if someone wants to have it, my PM box is always open or there's always another thread to make so long as we all keep it civil from now on.

As for the awards, if we're going to disqualify both sets of "big 3s" then we might as well not call it "Slender Man mythos awards." Instead it becomes something for the lesser-knowns, and that's fine, but let's call it what it is - an exploratory committee.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Well, as I said, that wasn't really my intention as much as just making this interesting for the participants and getting a broad as much result as can be. I wouldn't like to turn this into "2011 - MH Season 2 wins all. 2012 - MH season 3 wins all. 2014 - ..." etc or "for blogs: 2 people voted. For best individual character.... 2 voted... for best series, 2013 people voted for..." etc. . Wink

You have pretty much no basis for assuming that's how this'd go down though. You're imposing rules to try and solve a problem which might not even exist.

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DaLadybugMan wrote:
And I come to this topic and all I see is the implication that they're terrible. Let me give you some examples: "I don't plan to do so [read blogs] because of this thread." "I'm not going to read a blog just to vote for this. Wink" "I don't need to be lectured about reading more blogs, and I certainly don't need an awards ceremony set up just to try and force me to read them."

You can see why I'd be a bit upset. I mean, to me at least, those are pretty blatant statements against blogs,


Uh, no, that's not what they are at all. Pretty much none of them statements are saying "blogs are ass, nobody should read them," they're all consistently saying "I'm not interested in the blogs and I don't want to have to read them just to vote for an award". There's no statement there to the effect that the blogs or the people who are into the blogs are stupid, just a reaction against having people's opinions utterly discarded if they don't happen to read the blogs.

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So yeah, don't listen to me. I'm an asshole who's pretty bitter, and I know it.

Yeah, given your obvious reading comprehension skills I think that's probably the best course of action.

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TrailheadTroll wrote:
Just my two cents.

1.) "Core Theory" doesn't equal "People who ruined Core Theory".
Yeah, but let's face it: the only people touching Core Theory these days - aside from discounting it as an enormous horrible mistake - are the people who ruined it. Most of the prime movers in establishing it actually did a pretty good job of distancing themselves from it once it ran out of control.

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So yeah, don't listen to me. I'm an asshole who's pretty bitter, and I know it.

Yeah, given your obvious reading comprehension skills I think that's probably the best course of action.


That's uncalled for. Seriously, people, if we can't be civil (look at TrailheadTroll. /That/ is civility) I'm going to lock this, as even this is spiraling out of control.
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I'm sorry CD, but on some certain things you're wrong. I feel if this is to be run it shouldn't have to go through the mods first. That'd just be restricting us a little bit more. Yes, only a little, and the chances of that having any effect are small, but I would like to maintain as much freedom as possible. And had I phrased this better it would be more effectiveand I'd sound like less of an ass but such is life. I do apologize if I come off as rude during this though.

As well, threatening to lock the thread already is a bit much a bit soon. While yes the participants should try to remain more civil, it hasn't yet gotten to the point where even that threat is necessary. I wouldn't call this spiraling just yet. If anything it's enlightening to see what each person has to say on this topic, and I feel if given the time to talk it out they can eventually reach common ground. While locking it might dissuade those less polite from postin when/if it gets unlcoked, could have the same effect on those who are presenting good arguments/counterarguments.

As for the issue here proper...can't really offer much of an opinion. Automatically taking out the Big Three is rather unfair, and I agree with the whole 'can't read many blogs, too interconnected' bit, but that's more of a criticism towards some blogs than anything. Honestly everything I wanted to say has been better said by one person or another already.
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grieck wrote:
I'm sorry CD, but on some certain things you're wrong. I feel if this is to be run it shouldn't have to go through the mods first. That'd just be restricting us a little bit more. Yes, only a little, and the chances of that having any effect are small, but I would like to maintain as much freedom as possible. And had I phrased this better it would be more effectiveand I'd sound like less of an ass but such is life. I do apologize if I come off as rude during this though.


I doubt the mods decided thusly because they wanted to control everything. Instead, running the next award-thread-idea with their approval in advance ensures that less people can feel offended by the rules, since those are approved of by the G/mods. Hence no discussion like the ongoing one would arise, hence peace, harmony and pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows would ensue. It's an understandable thought.

grieck wrote:
As well, threatening to lock the thread already is a bit much a bit soon. While yes the participants should try to remain more civil, it hasn't yet gotten to the point where even that threat is necessary. I wouldn't call this spiraling just yet. If anything it's enlightening to see what each person has to say on this topic, and I feel if given the time to talk it out they can eventually reach common ground. While locking it might dissuade those less polite from postin when/if it gets unlcoked, could have the same effect on those who are presenting good arguments/counterarguments.


The discussion still is not on-topic and involves harsher interaction than necessary. So the threat is justified.
Things being not on the lowest point yet is the reason for the fact that CD only announced the thread-locking, instead of just doing it right away. So don't panic.

qrieck wrote:
As for the issue here proper...can't really offer much of an opinion. Automatically taking out the Big Three is rather unfair, and I agree with the whole 'can't read many blogs, too interconnected' bit, but that's more of a criticism towards some blogs than anything. Honestly everything I wanted to say has been better said by one person or another already.


Why don't you just not vote for the interconnected blogs because their interconnectedness is a reason for you to find them unpleasant?
If it annoys you/keeps you from reading them that much, the inconvenience is a valid criterion to not vote for them. Choose instead a blog that stands on its' own, there are some beautiful examples for that out there.

A problem about the Big Three (either) is that more or less everyone knows them, even if they know no other works. Thus more people would possibly vote for them simply because they are the only known nominees to them. That's the trail of thought behind that.

Thank you by the way, CD. I try.

I will now cease my posting here, though. So if you see my name somewhere, assume that it is because of a Trailhead I have to... troll.
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I'm sorry for appearing to over-react on my points to CD. While I know he didn't have any intentions of controlling everything when it was suggested, I am merely saying that the possibility is still there and I'd like to avoid it.

As I said, while harsh, I still don't believe even the threat necessary. I could be wrong, you could be wrong, it wouldn't matter either way as neither can see the future, nor truly know if his posting has/will make an impact compared to if he didn't. So really even my continuing to talk of this point is just a silly waste of time.

You misread me. I only said I agreed with the point on inter-connected. Were this event to become though out and done, I would vote for other blogs. I'm not saying I haven't/don't read any, just that it's a really good point, and a majority of blogs are interconnected. In truth, my even mentioning it is more a personal grip as well as the paragraph above, and means little in context of the thread.

As for the Big Three problem, that's the point. If we automatically rule them out there goes a large amount of voters, and is unfair to those three vlogs mainly. But if we keep them, there is a chance that-Well, as I already mentioned, others here have put such matters before, and much more well phrased than me.

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Okay honestly, this is a massive chime but it's obvious that this awards thing is simply not going to pan out. The girl threw it out there on a whim, and then all this shit happened and the slenderverse trembled and cracked into two camps and then blah blah blah

Seriously guys? I know that this is the internet but I thought people wouldve been more mature about something like this; not to say that I didn't enjoy reading all 5 pages of this crap.

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