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Zobot257
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 		Gaaah....I've missed so much.... I didn't even realize this came out!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:54 am
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catherwood
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SilckySmooth wrote:
QA: until centuries later, ____________


I reversed it and I hear "until centuries later, a man, though still alive" but also subject to interpretation.

SilckySmooth wrote:
Also, I think the picture "16" isnt actually 16 but an upper case I and a 6 so "I6"

I was doing copy-paste with the photo names, and I get both I6 for the above 16 and J4 for the 14 in the list above.

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enaxor
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catherwood wrote:
SilckySmooth wrote:
QA: until centuries later, ____________


I reversed it and I hear "until centuries later, a man, though still alive" but also subject to interpretation.


That makes perfect sense, because I think that is a reference to Dante.

SilckySmooth wrote:
Also, I think the picture "16" isnt actually 16 but an upper case I and a 6 so "I6"

catherwood wrote:
I was doing copy-paste with the photo names, and I get both I6 for the above 16 and J4 for the 14 in the list above.


I edited my entries to the correct labels.

Here's a possible order to the story:

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OA- there was once a great sorcerer
LO –who thought he could summon the very power of Ammit
9V –thus standing on an alter made of stone
CE –and channeling the great magnet of tremendous evil force
HP –he opened the gates (weird scraping noise)to hell, speaking directly to the gods of the underworld
4M –but the spell was a terrible catastrophe
S3 –and from Ammit's own belly the shadows were loosed to swarm the earth.
YF –where they feasted on their misery with man

QA –until centuries later, a man though still alive
N7 –walked through hell, where he saw many terrible things.
13 –and when eavesdropping, overheard the true sacred name of the shadows
BD –knowing the name's worth, he hid it in a single copy of his book
ZR –to be spoken of only by those worthy to find it
M3 –giving them power to bind shadows to their world to make them as slaves

OU –this gave birth to an order
DR –who tried to dominate the shadows by force
6T –but the shadows grew stronger and stronger, becoming like evil gods themselves

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catherwood
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 		another day where I would rather be moving these jigsaw puzzle pieces around all day instead of doing real work at the office, sigh. I swear I keep seeing "HP LOVECRAFT" trying to work its way out of those letters, but that's just my Eldritch brain seeing what it wants to see.

And I was going to say that the Egyptian god's name was Ammut in all the sources I was going to, but then right there in Wikipedia it gives Ammit as the first reference (also spelled Ammut) -- so annoying!

I'll lurk in chat again, as usual...

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SilckySmooth
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 		Ah good job Enaxor, I think you have the story in the right order now! So the audio order would be:

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OA, LO, 9V, CE, HP, 4M, S3, YF, QA, N7, 13, BD, ZR, M3, OU, DR, 6T


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I swear I keep seeing "HP LOVECRAFT" trying to work its way out of those letters, but that's just my Eldritch brain seeing what it wants to see.


LOL you see it too!!! the second I saw one label "HP" and another "LO" i just HAD to check to see if the rest were there haha

REGARDING the "I6" PIC:

I removed the space in between the two letters and flipped it, and it came out as:



K!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:59 pm
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enaxor
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 		[Update] Blog
Carol has updated her blog.

Carol wrote:
So I've been putting a lot of research time into this 'Order' business (between being scared out of my wits at my apartment and creepy texts/calls!) and I'm wondering how we can all learn more.
Things around here are getting worse and worse and I'm positive now that something/someone is following me and watching me…I can only take so much. Is everything connected? My hauntings and The Order? It's starting to look that way. I'm hoping I have some readers out there who have resources that can help us all by contacting The Order and infiltrating it. You understand that I personally would not want to reach out to The Order even if I knew how….I don't think that would be wise, but I know that some of you seem pretty fearless and might be willing to help me with this. You could be my only hope.
Wow, I feel like this 'plea for help' should be via hologram projected from a Droid….I'm a tough girl…..but I have my limits. If you can help me, please do. I know I've already put a lot of you in danger by making the number for tsitluccoeht public…and I'm sorry for that, I really am.


SilckySmooth wrote:
REGARDING the "I6" PIC:

I removed the space in between the two letters and flipped it, and it came out as: K!


Good call on removing the space.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:19 pm
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SilckySmooth
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 		thanks Smile

All this info at once has sent my system into overload.. too many double letters/double numbers Shocked

So now Carol is asking for us to infiltrate the Order.. not sure exactly HOW, but I know if its done by cell phone/texting i'll have to play the backseat since my stupid phone is broken at the moment.

My mind has been all over the place regarding these pics.. I noticed the angel in VR's skin is black where the original it was white (Shadows of Many?)

the same happened in the Archangel Michael pic. The demon he is about to kill has black skin, where in the original it was white also.

In the GY pic, the "First Person Singular" can be translated to the letter "I"

As for the rest, Enaxor pretty much hit the nails on the head with her original post on them.. I just can't wrap my head around what we're supposed to do with all this info.. I even tried using "tofollow/wollofot" as keys to deciphering this "code" but backwards or forwards I'm still getting nada.. I think the Altar/Magnet/Gates are important still for some reason..

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RandomGuy26
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 		Is it just me, or is the "enafor.html" messed up for everyone else now? The font color's changed, the images aren't in their columns/rows, they're allcalled "undefined" until I click on them, then "963" appears under their name. It's fixed now
But what I came here to say is good ear on catherwood for catching that audio file. I think enaxor's got the order right.
SilckySmooth wrote:
I removed the space in between the two letters and flipped it, and it came out as: K!

Nice. Wow, that seems obvious now. Good catch.
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So now Carol is asking for us to infiltrate the Order.. not sure exactly HOW, but I know if its done by cell phone/texting i'll have to play the backseat since my stupid phone is broken at the moment.

My mind has been all over the place regarding these pics.. I noticed the angel in VR's skin is black where the original it was white (Shadows of Many?)

Regarding VR, I was thinking we can take "1" from that, as in "one of many". It's the only singular character I can think of that fits.
It seems solving this puzzle will give us a user name and password for the initiation process. There is a hidden protected page at "etaitini.html".

Any ideas on UH.jpg? It shows "OA" then two sets of parallel lines. I was wondering if we should take a letter from OA.wav, but I don't know what the lines are for.

Thinking out loud in case this sparks an idea:
We have two sets of files, giving two sets of pairs of characters.
Set 1 (Audio): Contains 17 pairs and we can attribute numbers to their chronological order.
Set 2 (Images): Contains 18 pairs, most files have one character hidden in them.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:18 am
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enaxor
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 		After Lukas confessed in his email, that he'd actually tried to contact the shadows, I sent him an email asking why. He just replied, telling me he's back in LA and feels that something horrible is going to happen to him. Below are copies of the emails.

enaxor wrote:
Lukas,
OMG, I'm so sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday, but I got a bit sidetracked. I don't quite know how to react to your confession of actually trying to make contact with the shadows. What were you thinking? Didn't you understand the consequences if you actually made contact? Have the shadows communicated with you? Is that how you know about Carol? How did you try to make contact? I think we need to know everything, if we're to help you and Carol. Get back to me, soon!

Roxanne




His reply
Lukas wrote:
I don't know why I did it, that is try to make contact. It's like kids playing with an Ouija board. I didn't think anything would come of it. I just was fascinated with the history of the Dam and the rituals done in the mid-20th century. I now know it was stupid of me to not take things seriously.

I'm back in LA now. As soon as I stepped in my apartment I was struck by a sense of foreboding. Had to get out tonight and go to my favorite diner to just be around people for a while. But I feel utterly isolated from them even here. I'm afraid something horrible is going to happen to me.
Lukas

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Zobot257
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 		Gaaah. I am SO sorry I have been so gone lately. Its kinda lame of me, but I got promoted at my real job and the training schedule for the next few weeks has been killing me. Stuff will get done tonight, I swear.

I know I promised a transcription of my communications with Occultist, I will get it up tonight!

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SilckySmooth wrote:
I think the Altar/Magnet/Gates are important still for some reason..

I think it was just to get us started on ordering the audio clips, as they have the stone altar, followed by "magnet of tremendous evil force", then the gates open.

I made a stab at pairing each audio clip with an image:
Code:
OA   UH
LO   HV
9V   J4
CE   OY
HP   I6
4M   KX
S3   EN
YF   ZS
QA   QH
N7   48
13   W6
BD   PO
ZR   SP
M3   WB
OU   CK
DR   VR
6T   26
--   GY (extra image)

Much of this is subjective and relies on more than just the image itself (such as using the caption for W6 "Richard Overhears the Mother Chattox" to pair it with 13's "and when eavesdropping...") Feel free to ask for details or give alternatives.

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SilckySmooth
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 		The matching of the titles/captions with audio files is a good idea but do they all seem to have a match?

As for the UH pic, I agree its "OA" which we can only infer, as Randomguy posted previously, that it leads us to the OA audio file. That seems to be an isolated occurance though, seeing as how not many other pictures actually lead us to the audio files in that manner.

I keep thinking of the line that was repeated by theoccultist.. "To follow is the first step", and "to follow". This is making me think (like the audio files) that we need to put the pictures in a specific order, and whatever order they go into, the labels put together make the Username or PW..

Once we do have the correct order for both, we also need to keep in mind that theres a good chance we need to input them backwards, as is tsitluccoeht's M.O.


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I think it was just to get us started on ordering the audio clips, as they have the stone altar, followed by "magnet of tremendous evil force", then the gates open.


Yeah I believe you're right Cather, its just my mind running away again, Forrest Gump style.

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catherwood wrote:
I made a stab at pairing each audio clip with an image:
Code:
OA   UH
LO   HV
...
M3   WB
OU   CK
DR   VR
6T   26
--   GY (extra image)

Much of this is subjective and relies on more than just the image itself (such as using the caption for W6 "Richard Overhears the Mother Chattox" to pair it with 13's "and when eavesdropping...")  Feel free to ask for details or give alternatives.

I would switch WB and VR. VR is more about being bound (it's even called Soul in Bondage) and WB is more domination by force, what with the fighting. So M3 - VR and DR - WB.
Sounds good other than that.

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SilckySmooth
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 		I have a question and I'm sure one of you guys would know better than I would about this. On the new PW Protected page (orderofumbra.com/etaitini), the box where we input the UN/PW says:

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The server orderofumbra.com:80 at Who + Key requires a username and password.


Is this "Who + Key" normal for pw protected pages? or is it something thrown in and out of the ordinary?

AFTERTHOUGHT: After looking at Lukas' confession about the reasons the shadows were following him (his summoning), my attention turned towards an older theoccultist tweet with the picture titled "Where was Tyler last night?". We've been wondering why the shadows are following Carol now that we know why theyre following Lukas.. my prediction is that Tyler did some sort of summoning at the Cobb estate, just as Lukas did, not expecting anything real to actually happen. My weird feeling about him seemed confirmed when Sam sent me a direct tweet (which seemed irrelevent at the time) saying:

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Don't tell Tyler I said this, but he's a bit of a loose-cannon sometimes Smile. I don't think Carol has told him much yet.


and another:

Quote:
Tyler and I don't see eye to eye on many things. Part of working together, I guess. I've learned sometimes its better to w/hold info frm him


Just.. weird..

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catherwood
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SilckySmooth wrote:
On the new PW Protected page (orderofumbra.com/etaitini), the box where we input the UN/PW says:
Quote:
The server orderofumbra.com:80 at Who + Key requires a username and password.

Is this "Who + Key" normal for pw protected pages? or is it something thrown in and out of the ordinary?

You are right in pointing this out. (I noticed it but only mentioned it in chat.) It is a clue! The specific message I see is:
Quote:
A username and password are being requested by http://orderofumbra.com. The site says: "Who + Key"

Compare that to the message on another site that is password protected:
Quote:
A username and password are being requested by http://thelagp.com. The site says: "Secure Area"
(Remember, that one is OoG, i just picked it as an example) I don't remember what the message was when we first were trying to crack into http://tsitluccoeht.com/owtegap/ but it certainly wasn't as helpful.

My guess is that the username = "Who" and the password = "Key" (i know, "duh", right?) somehow coming out of the audio puzzle.

More stuff..
SilckySmooth wrote:
My weird feeling about Tyler...

Just.. weird..
I've been getting a weird vibe from the beginning. Tyler is now off in Malibu enjoying surf'n'sun -- I base that on tweets from http://twitter.com/LAGhostPatrol -- while his partners deal with spooky phone calls. (New tweets looks like they're meeting up now?)

RandomGuy26 wrote:
I would switch WB and VR. VR is more about being bound (it's even called Soul in Bondage) and WB is more domination by force, what with the fighting. So M3 - VR and DR - WB.
Sounds good other than that.

I agree, totally. I plan on making a longer post later, and will incorporate that change. I haven't seen any patterns yet, but I feel the need to summarize ALL of the pairings -- should I do this on a wiki page?

(returned later to add)
I found my way to the existing wiki via http://lagp.wikidot.com/tsitluccoeht and created an account. I wanted to create a new page for the latest puzzle, but it won't give me permission to do so. I did try to edit an existing page, but i get this message: Sorry, you can not edit this page. There is a link in the navigation for http://lagp.wikidot.com/the-order but it doesn't appear to have any content yet, and the main page has no link for our latest ingame website.

Well, nuts!

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