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NewInTown2
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vegetarianzombie wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
Uhh, guys? Someone posted this earlier but almost everyone ignored it. The doll looks like the Masky mask!

Look at the eyebrows, arched and deliberately drawn on. Look at the black around the left eye. The lips are burned to a pursed close.

http://img192.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=09680_EYEBROWS_122_495lo.jpg


Thumbnail screwed up, so just click the link above.


I think it's interesting that the operator button is IN the doll's eye. Possibly meaning that either the Operator sees through TiMasky or that TiMasky watches the Operator. Also the fact that the mouth and eye are burned CLOSED makes me think that the mask is either keeping something locked IN Tim's mind or keeping something from gaining access to Tim's mind. It all depends on how you approach the question of TiMasky.


I don't think the mask has any 'powers'. It could be that Tim is mental and that he uses the mask as his 'other' face (the moments he becomes 'the minion of the operator').

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neep
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pilferk wrote:
Nex wrote:
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No clue who that could have been in Entry #41. Why wasn't my car door locked?


He lies.

TTA was adressing us, not Jay.

We're missing the signs.
We will never be free. We are just as much a part of this as Jay.



How's that for something to think about?


So...like...they're "Neverending Story"-ing us?


Oh, of course. Slendy just wants us to name him.

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redluckycharm
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Mantisbot wrote:
To the people who noticed the similarities between the doll's face and Masky's: good one. If the baby is Masky, the crawling makes sense considering his recent injury. The blindness as well. This would seemingly make TTA Jay, or possibly a split personality.


This. I can't really put in words why I agree so much with the theory, but this. And, by the principle that Alex was hiding in the park when slenderman showed looking for J and all, we can have two personalities. The "Alex" one, where he's trying to "sacrifice" J to the Operator and be free from this madness, and the "TTA" one, that first tried to scare J to stop watching the tapes and now is helping (in a stupid twisted way, but still) him to escape. He lies, Alex lies, and the other personality knows it.

We can also speculate about the burned face of the doll. If Alex is in fact TTA, then HE harmed Tim and that's why TTA knows. Given the parallels between the face of the doll and Tim's mask, it can represent that Masky was hurt and everything. Maybe he used Masky as a warning, too, like "look what happened to him, it may happen with you too, soon, if you don't find the messages/signs".

Here's my two cents.

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Randoman96
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redluckycharm wrote:
Mantisbot wrote:
To the people who noticed the similarities between the doll's face and Masky's: good one. If the baby is Masky, the crawling makes sense considering his recent injury. The blindness as well. This would seemingly make TTA Jay, or possibly a split personality.


This. I can't really put in words why I agree so much with the theory, but this. And, by the principle that Alex was hiding in the park when slenderman showed looking for J and all, we can have two personalities. The "Alex" one, where he's trying to "sacrifice" J to the Operator and be free from this madness, and the "TTA" one, that first tried to scare J to stop watching the tapes and now is helping (in a stupid twisted way, but still) him to escape. He lies, Alex lies, and the other personality knows it.

We can also speculate about the burned face of the doll. If Alex is in fact TTA, then HE harmed Tim and that's why TTA knows. Given the parallels between the face of the doll and Tim's mask, it can represent that Masky was hurt and everything. Maybe he used Masky as a warning, too, like "look what happened to him, it may happen with you too, soon, if you don't find the messages/signs".

Here's my two cents.


That makes so much sense, it hurts.
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NewInTown2
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redluckycharm wrote:
Mantisbot wrote:
To the people who noticed the similarities between the doll's face and Masky's: good one. If the baby is Masky, the crawling makes sense considering his recent injury. The blindness as well. This would seemingly make TTA Jay, or possibly a split personality.


This. I can't really put in words why I agree so much with the theory, but this. And, by the principle that Alex was hiding in the park when slenderman showed looking for J and all, we can have two personalities. The "Alex" one, where he's trying to "sacrifice" J to the Operator and be free from this madness, and the "TTA" one, that first tried to scare J to stop watching the tapes and now is helping (in a stupid twisted way, but still) him to escape. He lies, Alex lies, and the other personality knows it.

We can also speculate about the burned face of the doll. If Alex is in fact TTA, then HE harmed Tim and that's why TTA knows. Given the parallels between the face of the doll and Tim's mask, it can represent that Masky was hurt and everything. Maybe he used Masky as a warning, too, like "look what happened to him, it may happen with you too, soon, if you don't find the messages/signs".

Here's my two cents.


Wow, makes a lot of sense! It also fits with my theory that TTA is a good guy that needs Jay to lead him to the ark. Maybe the non-TTA Alex gave the tapes to Jay to get Slendy to follow Jay instead of himself. It could even be that he uses Tim to drive Jay further to Slendy. Wich explain why TTAllex has so much footage of Tim/masky, his other personalty is working with him. And when Alex injured Tim, it could have actually been TTAlex who had a "clear" moment and knew Tim was going to be at the old house.

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awakeasaurusrex
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vegetarianzombie wrote:
I think it's interesting that the operator button is IN the doll's eye.
Yeah... about that.

Supposing that's all the Operator is? Some foreign invasive thing that sits in your and makes you see things? Perhaps there really is no faceless guy - not unless you're infected with the Operator perceptual virus. Maybe it makes you paranoid, start seeing that faceless man everywhere, start seeing faces and shapes and signs and codes where really there are none (kind of like us on a bad day lol)... eventually becoming someone like TiMasky, apparently normal but so lost in a web of delusion and supposition that you end up doing stupid, irrational things because the world no longer makes sense to you.

Of course, since we can see Slendy in the videos that means we're all infected.

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StarlitVixen
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Hmm. There's definitely use of the term "Operator" there. And whilst OOG we know that the Operator = Slendy, I don't think that connection has ever been directly made in-game; there was a video called "Operator" but little to nothing to suggest that title applied to Slender Man.

So, maybe as well as evoking the Operator on an OOG level to those of us who saw the interviews, and perhaps being an IG use of "Operator" to mean Slendy, could it also be a shoutback to the "Operator" TTA video? Could there be something there which Jay/us just haven't worked out yet?

Hmm. The audio on Operator is generally considered to be the audio from Entry 10, which depicts Alex RUNNING FROM THE OPERATOR IN A FORESTED AREA. The parallels with what happened to Jay in Entry 40 are obvious - save that Jay dropped the camera, and his encounter happened at daytime. Could Entry 10 have been recorded at Rosswood? And if that's so, could Alex have found the chimney glade in the period just before the running footage?


I think this is a very good theory and brings up a good point. I'm definitely going to check out the Operator video again...

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StarlitVixen
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NewInTown2 wrote:

Wow, makes a lot of sense! It also fits with my theory that TTA is a good guy that needs Jay to lead him to the ark. Maybe the non-TTA Alex gave the tapes to Jay to get Slendy to follow Jay instead of himself. It could even be that he uses Tim to drive Jay further to Slendy. Wich explain why TTAllex has so much footage of Tim/masky, his other personalty is working with him. And when Alex injured Tim, it could have actually been TTAlex who had a "clear" moment and knew Tim was going to be at the old house.


The more I read this, the more this makes sense.
I never trusted Alex since he "came back" in the videos from the past.

At the beginning, though, TTA seemed to be wanting Jay to be CAUGHT by TiMasky, like in Entry #18 when Jay went back to the house. In the Signal video from TTA, it told Jay to "COME BACK", so he did and that happened...

So either both Alex and TTAlex use videos to talk to Jay or I'm just really reaching far for theories.

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NewInTown2
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StarlitVixen wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:

Wow, makes a lot of sense! It also fits with my theory that TTA is a good guy that needs Jay to lead him to the ark. Maybe the non-TTA Alex gave the tapes to Jay to get Slendy to follow Jay instead of himself. It could even be that he uses Tim to drive Jay further to Slendy. Wich explain why TTAllex has so much footage of Tim/masky, his other personalty is working with him. And when Alex injured Tim, it could have actually been TTAlex who had a "clear" moment and knew Tim was going to be at the old house.


The more I read this, the more this makes sense.
I never trusted Alex since he "came back" in the videos from the past.

At the beginning, though, TTA seemed to be wanting Jay to be CAUGHT by TiMasky, like in Entry #18 when Jay went back to the house. In the Signal video from TTA, it told Jay to "COME BACK", so he did and that happened...

So either both Alex and TTAlex use videos to talk to Jay or I'm just really reaching far for theories.


Well that is a possibility, since the one personality is trapped (but conscious) when the other personality takes over. They know what the other personality is up to but just have to wait their turn to actually be able to do anything.

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morscata12
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vegetarianzombie wrote:
I think it's interesting that the operator button is IN the doll's eye. Possibly meaning that either the Operator sees through TiMasky or that TiMasky watches the Operator. Also the fact that the mouth and eye are burned CLOSED makes me think that the mask is either keeping something locked IN Tim's mind or keeping something from gaining access to Tim's mind. It all depends on how you approach the question of TiMasky.


Is the Operator-in-the-eye a symbol of empowerment or weakness? Is it a sign that Masky can see the truth (and the Operator), or is it blinding him? Considering that the video equates Masky to a baby, it would make sense that the Operator key is another sign of weakness.

Also, the face has been melted and deformed to form the mask and make room for that phone key - not a very complimentary likeness. Compare that to the "in-control outsider" self portrait from "Intermission". It definitely seems like this video is directed toward Masky from ToTheArk, which would separate the two entities.

Advocate (video taken from the scene where Brian asks "Are you going to feed me Tim's lines?") and Broadcast ("enjoying watching you suffer" paired with the timestamp to a freeze-frame of Tim's face) can be interpreted as referencing Tim. This sort of backs up this disconnection between Tim and ToTheArk.

"Fragments" referencing Alex does hurt the Alex=ToTheArk connection (unless the video is interpreted differently).

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 		Ugh...I'm growing tired of this. The video was creepy, but all I'm really taking from this is the repeated, continuing references to eyes.

Constant references to seeing, to being blind. The eyes in both masks are prominent. Jay's eyes were circled when the Operator went past him.

But, really...what is the Operators significance in all of this anyway?

He stalked Alex for...whatever reason. People disappeared, but the only time the Operator even demonstrated negative physical contact was when he entered Alex's room and he had a bloody forehead when he woke up. But it doesn't seem like he attacked Alex when he was 100 feet away in that scene. Other than the blood the only one who has demonstrated violence has been Tim/Masky, and Alex when dealing with Tim/Masky.

What is the god damned deal here anyway? I'm glad we could take all of this time to reveal Totheark as a second Mask wear individual...but I'd really like some forward motion on the actual point of all this.

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Mantisbot wrote:
Couple of things:

To the people who noticed the similarities between the doll's face and Masky's: good one. If the baby is Masky, the crawling makes sense considering his recent injury. The blindness as well. This would seemingly make TTA Jay, or possibly a split personality.

Second: to the guy who decoded the binary into numbers, they reminded me of IP addresses. Don't the different digits run from 0-255?

"18, 166, 54, 150, 101, 202, 0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 255"

Maybe 18.150.0.255, 166.101.0.255, 54.202.0.255.

Just sayin. Trying now... and I fail at computers. Nothing happened. Maybe another combination of the numbers or perhaps something is missing? I saw the translation of the binary into letters (he lies). That's probably the more logical explanation, but still:P



So far, the only things I can get from the potential ip Addresses are several state locations. The first is in Tampa Florida, and isn't associated with anything. The second is Cambridge Massachusetts, and is associated with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and the third is from Woodbridge NJ, and is associated with Merck and Co.

Probably nothing, but figured I'd check it out anyway.

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Mantisbot wrote:
Couple of things:

To the people who noticed the similarities between the doll's face and Masky's: good one. If the baby is Masky, the crawling makes sense considering his recent injury. The blindness as well. This would seemingly make TTA Jay, or possibly a split personality.

Second: to the guy who decoded the binary into numbers, they reminded me of IP addresses. Don't the different digits run from 0-255?

"18, 166, 54, 150, 101, 202, 0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 255"

Maybe 18.150.0.255, 166.101.0.255, 54.202.0.255.

Just sayin. Trying now... and I fail at computers. Nothing happened. Maybe another combination of the numbers or perhaps something is missing? I saw the translation of the binary into letters (he lies). That's probably the more logical explanation, but still:P

The reason they are reminding you of IP addresses is because the string of 8 binary numbers (or octet) runs from 0-255 (2^8 is 256). They can also be a means of storing binary text info.

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 		Okay, I re-watched all of the Totheark videos to put this one in perspective (while it is bright and sunny out of course) and the videos he responded too.

I am sure of it now, Jay has been censoring things, from 'Impurity' TTA said there was more, that was the one responding to slender man appearing in the day. I also think Slendy gained control of Jay at the end to 23#, we know that he started disappearing during the night. in 26# we see a different mask right before Alex is caught again.

I am more sure now that the Ark(not to the ark, but the ark) is Alex, because for some reason he is Slendy's preferred host, and that new mask in 26 is Jay's and Jay planted the camera in Alex's new house.

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 		All right, TTA, you've gotten another person to post for the first time. ^.^

I didn't see this anywhere before (though I could have easily missed it...XP) but did anyone else notice that the doll's ear seems to have been burned as well? I mean, it obviously isn't part of blindess, but maybe missing something in the audio? I don't know....

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