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 		One last thing, I know people want to make something out of Blasky's build and frame and such but so far as I recall OOG:

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The actor for blasky was said to be "filling in" or was available on short notice, so the actor in the costume is probably not intended to be the same person that the actor plays normally.


That is to say, we comparing build/physical inferences is not likely to help...
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cause the actor is probably not going to be the same if/when Blasky is unveiled.


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12th wrote:

4. Blasky somehow beat Jay out of the forest, which seems damned amazing since Jay had at least a 15 minute head start on Blasky. Blasky was walking, filiming water, and other stuff. He was not in a hurry. One could argue that Jay got really, REALLY lost, but it seems amazing that Blasky walk "a couple of miles" so quickly.

Possible theories: teleportation, or time manipulation (as seen in The House in Entry 23), or Jay just doesn't freaking know how far a "couple of miles" is (definitely not able to be walked in 15 minutes), or there was a significant amount of time between end of #40 and when Jay was found in #42 (2+ hrs? Daylight doesn't seem to support)


Jay was apparently very lost, in woods he didn't know. This could easily account for the 'couple of miles' for him, with only a fifteen minute walk for Hoody. Plus, there were a few cuts in Entry #41 - those could easily have been separating thirty minutes or so.

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 		Dang, I forgot the most important thing:

Can someone twitter Jay and ask if there is more footage of Alex before he got to the park (no pun intended)? Does he have a videotaped alibi for the time that Blasky was present? We're looking for basically unbroken footage, or confirmation that Alex had finished with "changing a tape" when #42 begins.

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12th wrote:
4. Blasky somehow beat Jay out of the forest, which seems damned amazing since Jay had at least a 15 minute head start on Blasky. Blasky was walking, filiming water, and other stuff. He was not in a hurry. One could argue that Jay got really, REALLY lost, but it seems amazing that Blasky walk "a couple of miles" so quickly.


It could also be a case of Jay not knowing where the hell he's going and taking a long ass route.. to end up at a tree on the other side of the forest. We don't know how long he was at this tree, or why he stayed there instead of going back to his car.

Either Blaski can teleport, is very very good at navigation, or (wait for it)

has been to the forest before.

Either way, we can assume that Blaski either didn't see Slendy or isn't afraid of him (probably thanks to that mask of his) and is on Jay's side. Not only this, but if you found a camera, how would you know who it belongs to? How would you know what car he drives, and whether or not it was open?

Blaski's been watching Jay for a while, methinks.
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dinorobo wrote:
-after looking through 14 pages of theories and speculation-

I got it:

Evan is TTA. Dahlia is Hoody. Sparky is Slendeman.
I win an Internet.


^
this is logical.

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12th wrote:

2. I think we have reasonable evidence that the canopied pathway in #42 is the panic pathway in #29. The way the trees are arranged look pretty similar. On top of that, it's a very intentionally chosen shot that Jay edited in as part of the entry, so it's likely that Jay himself thinks its the same place.



This^ well put,

I noticed this too, to me this confirms that Entry #29 happens in Rosswood park.

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned here yet is that Alex is wearing the same orange shirt that he has on in Entry #38, could possibly suggest that 38 happens later that day when it starts to get darker.
I know Jay wanted to get as far away from Rosswood as possible, but Alex may have calmed him down later on at the hotel and convinced him to go back and see what he was going to show him in Entry #38.
Then again it may be that he's living out of a suitcase and recycled that shirt on another day guess it's a wait and see if it comes up in the next entry.

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One other thing that has me wandering, now that we've learned that Amy is missing, is why has the Operator not taken Alex already? I mean it's possible he took him and let him go like what happened to Jay in Return, but he's had plenty of access to Alex, from the stalking he did in the early entries to Entry #14 where he walks into Alex's bedroom while he's asleep, then from what we see in Entry #22 he takes Seth but leaves Alex, and now the same thing with Amy.
Just seems like the Operator gets his kicks from tormenting Alex but why?

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Feiticera wrote:
One thing that hasn't been mentioned here yet is that Alex is wearing the same orange shirt that he has on in Entry #38


Great observation! Yeah, I'd be surprised if it wasn't the same day, or close to it. #38 states that they barely speak to each other, so it's possible that they get into a fight over whether they should go back. If so, I'm pretty sure Alex pulls an ultimatum on Jay to get him to come along ("I'm going one way or the other!") against Jay's better judgment.


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One other thing that has me wandering, now that we've learned that Amy is missing, is why has the Operator not taken Alex already? ...from what we see in Entry #22 he takes Seth but leaves Alex, and now the same thing with Amy.


Within the Evil!Alex theory: maybe Alex has found a way to temporarily get the Operator off his back by "sacrificing" others as substitutes? Maybe Alex led Seth in #22 to the pump room for such a purpose? Maybe Amy was offered in a moment of panic and now Alex wants to trade Jay for her? Admittedly, that's a pretty far-fetched theory.

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 		Ok so Jay dropped the camera and took off running and 15 minutes pass. Then we see Blaski appear to casually walk the camera back to Jays ride, but he still manages to get there before Alex. Before Jay manages to run back to his car even. So either Blaski has some sort of teleportation ability or Jay just got super lost in the woods, ran around aimlessly and Alex just happened to pass him on the way in.

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12th wrote:
DISCLAIMER: Watched the video at work, but since I've only now been able to access the forums, I'm posting my response now - will read threads and clean up later.

EDIT: Okay, cutting some stuff, 'cause of general consensus, moving some to the TTA discussion. You know what, F this, I'm gonna make a TL;DR version.

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Well this answers a few things from the unanswered questions thread:

1. Where is Amy, Alex's GF, after entry #26?

Answer: We don't know, but she's alleged as being not accounted for. Which suggests that she was either Slendy-snatched or ran off, but Alex didn't witness her being hurt or killed.

Of course, this is dependent on how much you trust Alex to report things accurately.

I think everyone caught the person sitting next to the tree at the beginning of the tape. Seems pretty obvious that this is Hoody, but "obvious" is not always true. Feel reasonably certain of this, but then there's another observation:

The wiki points out that at 4:45 there is a beige shape in the back seat of Alex's car which suggests draped cloth/clothing. The shadows within the car, the glare from the window, and lack of focus make it impossible to determine what exactly this blob is. It is beige, though, so it could be the Hoody-hoody. Of course, it could also be a bag or something else. It's too ambiguous. But, that's at least enough to keep the debate going on whether Alex is TTA/Hoody/Both.


I think we can drop the debate that Hoody is Jay. Seems pretty damned unlikely that Jay would walk "a few miles" back to his car, change clothes, then go back in the woods on the off-chance he'd meet Alex while cavorting in the woods. There is a Did Not Do The Research moment here, in regard to general walking pace or distances. A sturdy walk is about 2.5-3.5 miles/hr. That's not "hurrying" but it's not "dragging your feet" either. And that's not accounting for terrain and elevation changes, which can slow you down further. If the fireplace clearing is "a few miles" into the woods (and the parking lot is clearly about a half-mile, give or take, from where the trail starts), I seriously doubt there is enough time for Jay to have changed, recovered the camera, WALKED back to the car (while making videos of water), and then gone back into the woods. Either Jay has no sense of distance & is wrong about how far the clearing is, or really had no damned business telling Alex it would take him 15 minutes to get back to the car when he called in Entry #40 (or both). Running "a couple of miles" in 15 minutes is a pretty good pace, by the way. I don't see Jay as being the kind of person who's in that good of shape, even if he is pretty slim.

On the other hand, there's the very serious question of: how the hell did Hoody get the camera and get back (while WALKING) and beat Jay back to the car? Not to mention that at the beginning of #41, Jay explicitly states that there is "15 minutes of nothing" before the picture comes back, and Hoody retrieves it. Which means we have a timeline of:

#40:

Jay calls Alex, says he'll be back at the car in about 15 minutes.

Jay looks around the clearing for a few minutes.

Operator shows up, EDIT: JAY wisely GTFO of there.

[15 minutes of nothing, which means Jay has a 15 min head start]

#41:

Hoody picks up the camera, walks leisurely back to Jay's car.

Along the way, he tapes water, some trees, and part of his not-hurried trip through the field near the parking lot.

I can account for the idea that Jay edited out parts of the walk back, that makes sense given his prior posts. We don't know how long it took Hoody to make it back to the car. It's possible that Jay just got really damned lost in the woods and took a LOT of time to get back to the car. But the daylight doesn't really look any different than when Jay was found by the Operator. Still an hour might be long enough for Hoody to get back to the car if Jay was REALLY lost. If Jay was running (and he was *running*) around for long than an hour to go "a couple of miles", then ...yeah, I think something else happened while he was in there.

I don't think that much time passed, but since Jay wouldn't be able to answer when he gave up waiting for Jay to go into the woods (he doesn't remember), it's pretty much impossible to make a precise timeline. Something just doesn't "feel" right. Does mask-porting screw with space AND time?

The thing I really want answered now is: Did the hard drive have any contemporaneous footage to the events of #40/#41 (that is, footage which can be time-synched to the footage from Jay's camera), to give Alex an alibi for NOT being Hoody? The start of Entry #42 has Alex turning on the camera - suggesting that he wasn't filming while driving (and thus, we don't know what he was doing). Maybe he was changing tapes when he got to the park, I don't know. It would be great if someone could Twitter Jay and ask if the Hard drive had footage of Alex before he got to the park or while he was driving to the park.

If not, I'm gonna have to start leaning toward TTA on this one: "He Lies".

Oh, here's another stinger for you TTA theorists: Amy. What's her middle and last initial?




didn't troy dismiss ark = initials a while ago?
also hoodie beat jay back to the car simply because jay got lost and didn't know his way back, jay could have been running in circles for hours

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pravado wrote:
didn't troy dismiss ark = initials a while ago?


He did for Alex, but I don't remember there being something that said "it's not initials". Even still, I was mostly joking, just stirring the pot a bit.

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hoodie beat jay back to the car simply because jay got lost and didn't know his way back, jay could have been running in circles for hours


This seems to be the general consensus, and without good data on how long certain events took or distances, I'm willing to go with the mundane answer.

I was going to say that there wasn't any distortion to suggest something supernatural had occurred (teleport, time shifts), but IIRC, those phenomena weren't matched to any such distortions. They just happened.

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 		Even after I talked about how it looks like the figure at the tree is Blasky, and I don't think the jacket in the back of Alex's car is a solid colour, I still think that Alex is TTA and Skimasky. I just like to play devils advocate.

Edit:: after reading through some posts, I feel like typing up my ENTIRE and actual theory.

Alex is ToTheHood. He would have parked somewhere else as to not show his car when he dropped off the camera, and then pulled up closer to Jays car so as to make it appear as though it wasn't him. Jay would see that there was no car in the video and then remember that Alex parked right next to him. The way Alex acted could have been exaggerated just to mess with Jay (And also, us) and get him convinced that Alex is legitimately angry.

One thing that does bug me though, that nobody else has been talking about: How does Hoody know where the camera is? We know he was watching Jay at some point, but unless he was following him extremely closely, it's unlikely he would have seen the camera drop go down, and if he was following that close, why did it take 15 minutes for him to recover the camera?

If JAY is Hoody and not TTA, then it's likely he went back to get the camera, brought it back to his car with a mask on so as not to attract Slendy (I'm in the "masks keep him away" camp) just to make sure someone found the footage, and went back sans mask/hood to look for the Operator. He might have hid this from Alex because he feared that Alex was ToTheArk or it's possible that he suffered a small memory lapse, forgetting that he ever made it out of the forest the first time.

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 		Guys, it's safe to say it was George under the tree. Look at this screen and note the timestamp. I watched the entry in quicktime so i could watch it in slowmo and I happened to notice a certain weirdo in a pale hoody walking past Alex's window while Alex is distracted putting on the chestcam. A moment later is when we see the shot StarlitVixen showed us of hoody sitting under the tree. Now I know what the derpier viewers are going to say: "But Snorlax, that person's walking past Alex's driver-side! Entry 41 ends with George walking past JAY's driver-side." Well, derpy ones, we know hoody returned the camera while Jay and Alex were looking for it back in the woods. This means at some point, train A and train B passed each other on parallel paths. Furthermore, it means Entry 41 wasn't the only business TTA had to attend to that day.

Why am I calling the hooded person TTA now? Because it's TTA. Since I just explained quite clearly that TTA did more than just return the camera the day of entries 40-41, I'm now going to refer the derplings to Intermission, in which TTA records in the woods while hiding among trees. Pretty much all I have left to say in addition to everything else is: Intermission was filmed before or after TTA returned the camera, not WHILE he/she was returning it and that's how our hooded pal was able to waltz right past Alex and also RETURN JAY'S CAMERA (take another drink).
LAST last words: TTA probably waited for Alex to distract himself if TTA was able to walk on by instead of sneaking. TTA either knew he had the chestcam or just saw it beforehand.
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dinosauring wrote:
Even after I talked about how it looks like the figure at the tree is Blasky, and I don't think the jacket in the back of Alex's car is a solid colour, I still think that Alex is TTA and Skimasky. I just like to play devils advocate.

Edit:: after reading through some posts, I feel like typing up my ENTIRE and actual theory.

Alex is ToTheHood. He would have parked somewhere else as to not show his car when he dropped off the camera, and then pulled up closer to Jays car so as to make it appear as though it wasn't him. Jay would see that there was no car in the video and then remember that Alex parked right next to him. The way Alex acted could have been exaggerated just to mess with Jay (And also, us) and get him convinced that Alex is legitimately angry.

One thing that does bug me though, that nobody else has been talking about: How does Hoody know where the camera is? We know he was watching Jay at some point, but unless he was following him extremely closely, it's unlikely he would have seen the camera drop go down, and if he was following that close, why did it take 15 minutes for him to recover the camera?

If JAY is Hoody and not TTA, then it's likely he went back to get the camera, brought it back to his car with a mask on so as not to attract Slendy (I'm in the "masks keep him away" camp) just to make sure someone found the footage, and went back sans mask/hood to look for the Operator. He might have hid this from Alex because he feared that Alex was ToTheArk or it's possible that he suffered a small memory lapse, forgetting that he ever made it out of the forest the first time.



sorry but this just sounds stupid to me. jay being hoody is a theory that shouldn't exist.

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 		Ah, finally, the forum is back up.

After catching up on reading through all the new theories, I really like the idea of #38 being after Alex and Jay meet up. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Also, I'm VERY curious to see what happens on the new tape. After Alex's creepy story about the stretched criminals, I feel like something is going to happen.

However, I wonder if any scenes we see in #42 match up with #38?

I am also agreeing with the people that say Entry #29 is coming up soon and is after this recording... The forest scenes (from the screenshot I saw earlier, thank you whoever posted it) look completely similar. No doubt about it that it's the same place. Only thing to figure out is what starts this little adventure into the blood-splattered tunnel with our Operator friend?

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pravado wrote:
dinosauring wrote:
Even after I talked about how it looks like the figure at the tree is Blasky, and I don't think the jacket in the back of Alex's car is a solid colour, I still think that Alex is TTA and Skimasky. I just like to play devils advocate.

Edit:: after reading through some posts, I feel like typing up my ENTIRE and actual theory.

Alex is ToTheHood. He would have parked somewhere else as to not show his car when he dropped off the camera, and then pulled up closer to Jays car so as to make it appear as though it wasn't him. Jay would see that there was no car in the video and then remember that Alex parked right next to him. The way Alex acted could have been exaggerated just to mess with Jay (And also, us) and get him convinced that Alex is legitimately angry.

One thing that does bug me though, that nobody else has been talking about: How does Hoody know where the camera is? We know he was watching Jay at some point, but unless he was following him extremely closely, it's unlikely he would have seen the camera drop go down, and if he was following that close, why did it take 15 minutes for him to recover the camera?

If JAY is Hoody and not TTA, then it's likely he went back to get the camera, brought it back to his car with a mask on so as not to attract Slendy (I'm in the "masks keep him away" camp) just to make sure someone found the footage, and went back sans mask/hood to look for the Operator. He might have hid this from Alex because he feared that Alex was ToTheArk or it's possible that he suffered a small memory lapse, forgetting that he ever made it out of the forest the first time.



sorry but this just sounds stupid to me. jay being hoody is a theory that shouldn't exist.


I don't think that Jay is Hoody, I just like playing devils advocate. No need to be a dick, though.

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