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Tao
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McGregor wrote:
All these theories of teleportation and time travel are really getting on my nerves. Why can't there just be a simple reasoning behind it?

Jay sees the operator, drops his camera, and takes off running in a random direction into the woods. The operator goes after him. Hoody sees that the operator leaves so he walks out and grabs the camera. He then leisurely walks back to the parking lot (following the water as maybe an operator deterrent) because he knows the direct route back and places the camera in Jay's car before Alex even shows up. He then takes a seat under the tree, waiting for Jay to come back, and Alex pulls up. Meanwhile, Jay is still running in random directions through the woods in panic mode (still being chased by the operator or not). Alex goes into the woods, runs into Jay and they walk back to their cars. Jay finds the camera in his car, but by then Hoody is gone.

I don't see why there is any need to complicate things further...


Yeah, I'm on your side in that I hope that this timeline can be sorted out as easily as humanly possible. I'm just trying to convince others of the wackness that is teleportation.

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 		Haven't read the whole topic. Has anyone pointed out yet that this is the first time in the series that 2 characters are actually outwardly talking about slender man?

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Tao wrote:
McGregor wrote:
All these theories of teleportation and time travel are really getting on my nerves. Why can't there just be a simple reasoning behind it?

Jay sees the operator, drops his camera, and takes off running in a random direction into the woods. The operator goes after him. Hoody sees that the operator leaves so he walks out and grabs the camera. He then leisurely walks back to the parking lot (following the water as maybe an operator deterrent) because he knows the direct route back and places the camera in Jay's car before Alex even shows up. He then takes a seat under the tree, waiting for Jay to come back, and Alex pulls up. Meanwhile, Jay is still running in random directions through the woods in panic mode (still being chased by the operator or not). Alex goes into the woods, runs into Jay and they walk back to their cars. Jay finds the camera in his car, but by then Hoody is gone.

I don't see why there is any need to complicate things further...


Yeah, I'm on your side in that I hope that this timeline can be sorted out as easily as humanly possible. I'm just trying to convince others of the wackness that is teleportation.


I don't like it either, but it's not like it hasn't happened before in the series. When Jay put surveillance cameras in his house he saw for himself that he went trough a door and didn't came out trough the other side of it.

But McGregor makes a valid point. It's possible that Jay was lost, but that still doesn't explains to me why Hoody didn't hurry more to get to the car. The only explanation then is that Hoody didn't really planned on bringing the camera back to Jay, he just did because he could Razz

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madfish wrote:
Haven't read the whole topic. Has anyone pointed out yet that this is the first time in the series that 2 characters are actually outwardly talking about slender man?


I had noticed that when I originally watched it a few days ago. I hope that there's more conversation about Alex's experiences with Slenderman during the taping of Marble Hornets. Good stuff! I love character development.
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madfish wrote:
Haven't read the whole topic. Has anyone pointed out yet that this is the first time in the series that 2 characters are actually outwardly talking about slender man?


I'm also pretty sure it's the first entry where someone says a curse word, not that it matters though.

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Teedub wrote:
madfish wrote:
Haven't read the whole topic. Has anyone pointed out yet that this is the first time in the series that 2 characters are actually outwardly talking about slender man?


I'm also pretty sure it's the first entry where someone says a curse word, not that it matters though.


...but Alex really seems the type, doesn't he?
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 		I'm pretty sure it was settled that the "hair" in 26 was actually the wall behind. It doesn't even look like hair, guys, seriously.


NewInTown2 wrote:
In my mind there is NO doubt that TTA = Hoody/ToTheBark and Hoody isn't Alex

Why?

Entry 40 => Jay uploads footage of him walking around Rosswood in the lost 7 months.

Intermission => TTA reveals he was there as well at the time, maybe even in frame => "Did you see me? I saw you" He also shows a sketch of a person sitting against a tree resembling Jay from entry 42. We can think that TTA knew Jas going trough the tapes and eventually see it, however this footage is from the 'forgotten' hard drive. => so TTA needed Jay to remeber the hard drive to prove his point he was always there.


Okay, I'm also absolutely positive it was resolved that the "person under the tree" was TTA/hoody, because they were clearly sketching (later the pictures we see in Intermission). The "face" on the figure are also very reminiscent of the "eye holes" on Hoody. It is not Jay sitting under the tree in 42. It's TTA watching Jay and the Operator from afar in Entry 40.

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JayQue wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was settled that the "hair" in 26 was actually the wall behind. It doesn't even look like hair, guys, seriously.


NewInTown2 wrote:
In my mind there is NO doubt that TTA = Hoody/ToTheBark and Hoody isn't Alex

Why?

Entry 40 => Jay uploads footage of him walking around Rosswood in the lost 7 months.

Intermission => TTA reveals he was there as well at the time, maybe even in frame => "Did you see me? I saw you" He also shows a sketch of a person sitting against a tree resembling Jay from entry 42. We can think that TTA knew Jas going trough the tapes and eventually see it, however this footage is from the 'forgotten' hard drive. => so TTA needed Jay to remeber the hard drive to prove his point he was always there.


Okay, I'm also absolutely positive it was resolved that the "person under the tree" was TTA/hoody, because they were clearly sketching (later the pictures we see in Intermission). The "face" on the figure are also very reminiscent of the "eye holes" on Hoody. It is not Jay sitting under the tree in 42. It's TTA watching Jay and the Operator from afar in Entry 40.


Hah, would make more sense Razz Thanks, I noobed out there.

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Teedub wrote:
Hoody/Blasky is most likely pretty familiar with the area, and that is why he felt so confident with walking back to Jay's car while filming random stuff (water, the sky, etc.) Hoody has probably analyzed and memorized the trails, so it wasn't difficult for him to get back before Jay.



This thows a fair few new questions out there if its true.

Mainly, of course, who is familiar with this area? Its a long way from the hometown of the original MH crew. The mention of the hotels suggests Alex knows the area, the most likely explaination being that its where he moved to 4 years ago - though this isn't for sure. There's the old MH guys who were MIA (Brian in particular, perhaps also Seth) but really there's nothing to tie them to Rosswood specifically. Indeed, one popular theory if that one or both may have been trapped for years in Slendy-Limbo / the Basement - certainly no time for hiking and getting to know a new area.

The one character with a confirmed familiarity with the area around Rosswood Park is Jessica. But I really struggle to see where she came from and how she got to be / be involved in TTA if it is her returning the camera.



Oh, and related to an above post - I really don't think there's enough detail in the shot to be sure that the figure under the tree is sketching. They could be doing anything, really - in fact, their pose is very similar to Jay's after Alex catches up to him.

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 		Hey guys, I think this was overlooked, might have been posted, but oh well.

2:36-2:42 is the EXACT same location he was running through in entry 29, if I recall.

EDIT: Exact same amount of time on screen too.

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 		Not sure if this has been pointed out, but what if the red herring in all of this is the hoodie in the backseat, not the guy under the tree? Maybe after Alex left his car, Hoody put his namesake in the car to mislead them/us?

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 		Hi there, first message here.


I just wanted to say that I agree with people here who laugh about the "hoodie - time travel/teleportation - theory". It just doesn't make sense.

McGregor just sum it up perfectly :
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Jay sees the operator, drops his camera, and takes off running in a random direction into the woods. The operator goes after him. Hoody sees that the operator leaves so he walks out and grabs the camera. He then leisurely walks back to the parking lot (following the water as maybe an operator deterrent) because he knows the direct route back and places the camera in Jay's car before Alex even shows up. He then takes a seat under the tree, waiting for Jay to come back, and Alex pulls up. Meanwhile, Jay is still running in random directions through the woods in panic mode (still being chased by the operator or not). Alex goes into the woods, runs into Jay and they walk back to their cars. Jay finds the camera in his car, but by then Hoody is gone.

Nothing to add !


But, I also wanted to remind something to the people saying "there were never mention of a time travelling/teleportation theory, except for Slendy". Go and watch again Entry #23, the one where Jay goes back to the house for the third time (during the day) :

- When he's upstairs, he seems to jump forward in time each time he passes the door. PLUS, he seems to teleport himself to the door accross the corridor, each time.

- Then, when opening the water-heater room (in front of the closet where he woke up), there's a hole in the wall leading to that big engine room where Jay and that guy named Seth went too. And that room seems too big, compared to the house (like in that book "House of Leaves", if anyone had read it).

I'm gonna check the Entry #23 thread by the way.


SO, although I'm not for these time theories about Hoodie in the park (he just got to the car faster than Jay, that's all), you still gotta admit that they're not only targetting Slendy but Jay as well.

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 		im still laughing at the people who can't get this timeline thing down


jay was a few MILES in the forest. i don't know why you think he'd be able to run a few miles that fast, he doesn't look that fit.

he encounters slendy and drops the camera - 0:00
blasky picks it up - 0:15
blasky makes it back to car - let's say 0:45
alex arrives - 1:00
alex walks inland and comes across jay - 1:15

jay could have been running in the wrong direction for a while until he got his bearings. there's no way to tell how much time passed. him being a few miles inland is the key, a few miles is not exactly a short walk

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Rubiks Dude wrote:
Hi there, first message here.


I just wanted to say that I agree with people here who laugh about the "hoodie - time travel/teleportation - theory". It just doesn't make sense.

McGregor just sum it up perfectly :
Quote:
Jay sees the operator, drops his camera, and takes off running in a random direction into the woods. The operator goes after him. Hoody sees that the operator leaves so he walks out and grabs the camera. He then leisurely walks back to the parking lot (following the water as maybe an operator deterrent) because he knows the direct route back and places the camera in Jay's car before Alex even shows up. He then takes a seat under the tree, waiting for Jay to come back, and Alex pulls up. Meanwhile, Jay is still running in random directions through the woods in panic mode (still being chased by the operator or not). Alex goes into the woods, runs into Jay and they walk back to their cars. Jay finds the camera in his car, but by then Hoody is gone.

Nothing to add !


But, I also wanted to remind something to the people saying "there were never mention of a time travelling/teleportation theory, except for Slendy". Go and watch again Entry #23, the one where Jay goes back to the house for the third time (during the day) :

- When he's upstairs, he seems to jump forward in time each time he passes the door. PLUS, he seems to teleport himself to the door accross the corridor, each time.

- Then, when opening the water-heater room (in front of the closet where he woke up), there's a hole in the wall leading to that big engine room where Jay and that guy named Seth went too. And that room seems too big, compared to the house (like in that book "House of Leaves", if anyone had read it).

I'm gonna check the Entry #23 thread by the way.


SO, although I'm not for these time theories about Hoodie in the park (he just got to the car faster than Jay, that's all), you still gotta admit that they're not only targetting Slendy but Jay as well.



pretty sure that the machinery room was the basement of the house, there were stairs leading up and the house itself had stairs leading to a basement iirc. dont' remember there being a big hole in the wall near the closet leading to that though

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 		and a random thought ,but does anyone think that "return" actually takes place in jays house in his hallway

jay leaves his room and just goes missing for 3 hours, could just be sitting next to his front door while masky led him to slendy


also return pretty much confirms that totheark/masky were working together didn't it?

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