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MGDwreck
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Ya these people talking about hoody teleporting soound ridiculous. He walked through the woods and when he first gets out of the woods he stops for awhile to see if anyone is near the car and then proceeds to go to it.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
freyathedark wrote:
And as so many people have mentioned, YES THE CARS THERE ARE DIFFERENT. IT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILM ON DIFFERENT DAYS. All this suggests is that the entries were filmed on different days and times. It should just be ignored, as you can't really tell anything from what cars were supposed to be there.

Nope, nope nope nope, nuh-uh, nope, don't buy it for a second.

The significant thing isn't that different cars are there in Entry 41 from Entry 42, it's that Alex's car is not right next to Jay's. These guys are film students who pay real close attention to continuity (see: the Slenderbob cut). If Alex's car not being next to Jay's in 41 was not meant to be significant (by way of being an aid for us to figure out the timeline at the very least), they'd have made sure that in Entry 42 Alex parked his car some way away from Jay's so it wouldn't be expected to be in the same shot in Entry 41. They didn't, they deliberately had Alex park right next to Jay. IG, it's a significant clue. OOG, it's not the sort of thing they'd do unless they were intending to.


Except Alex didn't get there at the same time as Jay. He gets there when Jay's already in the forest, as we can tell from him checking his voicemail. It's totally possible that Blaski returns the camera before Alex gets there. (Unless I've managed to miss something?)

StarlitVixen wrote:
For Yuki and WhyYouBawwing.
This is what I was referring to. ^^
I outlined the hair a bit to show what Nickjackal and I saw. :3


I can see what you mean, but if it's hair, it'd have to be inside the mask as well. It looks like a hood, if not the wall behind Skully.

Also, I strongly dislike the time travel theory. It seems simplest and makes the most sense to me that Jay got turned around in woods that he's not familiar with. Jay also winds up sitting down for a while, and it takes Alex a bit of time to catch up with him, and they talk for a while, too. It's completely plausible to me that it takes a bit of time for them to get back, and it's fairly clear that Blaski is more familiar with Rosswood than Jay. If anything, I can buy that the camera time got screwed up due to The Operator being around and so that would shorten the time it takes before Blaski takes it. (although, the "15 minutes of nothing"... if Jay's relying on the camera time, it'd make sense. If it's literally 15 minutes of nothing, then that theory pretty much goes out the window.)

Plus, Jay seems to take off in the opposite direction of how he came into the woods, so it makes sense that he'd get lost.

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pravado wrote:
he encounters slendy and drops the camera - 0:00
blasky picks it up - 0:15
blasky makes it back to car - let's say 0:45
alex arrives - 1:00
alex walks inland and comes across jay - 1:15


There's nothing wrong with this timeline, except that it is pretty unlikely that Jay was running flat-out for an hour and fifteen minutes. I can come up with scenarios that allow for it (he stopped, and got spooked again), but it's a bit odd.

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Tao wrote:
Teedub wrote:
madfish wrote:
Haven't read the whole topic. Has anyone pointed out yet that this is the first time in the series that 2 characters are actually outwardly talking about slender man?


I'm also pretty sure it's the first entry where someone says a curse word, not that it matters though.


...but Alex really seems the type, doesn't he?


Honestly, yes.

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pravado wrote:
he encounters slendy and drops the camera - 0:00
blasky picks it up - 0:15
blasky makes it back to car - let's say 0:45
alex arrives - 1:00
alex walks inland and comes across jay - 1:15

Yep ! He was a few miles in the woods, BUT HE ALSO got lost, and was under an extreme panic.

Considering Hoodie/Blasky knows perfectly his way out, he had indeed all the time to get to the car before Jay.


About the machinery room, I still think it's on the same level as the living room (and that's what would be odd and bring an "other dimension" theory). I just watched entries #19 #20 and #23, to see all the doors in the main corridor, and I'm pretty sure about that !


Yuki wrote:
Except Alex didn't get there at the same time as Jay. He gets there when Jay's already in the forest, as we can tell from him checking his voicemail. It's totally possible that Blaski returns the camera before Alex gets there. (Unless I've managed to miss something?)
Alex checked his voicemail at one time, but we can't know for sure jay was calling him a few minutes before. He certainly called him a while before, maybe when he was driving.

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Rubiks Dude wrote:
pravado wrote:
he encounters slendy and drops the camera - 0:00
blasky picks it up - 0:15
blasky makes it back to car - let's say 0:45
alex arrives - 1:00
alex walks inland and comes across jay - 1:15

Yep ! He was a few miles in the woods, BUT HE ALSO got lost, and was under an extreme panic.

Considering Hoodie/Blasky knows perfectly his way out, he had indeed all the time to get to the car before Jay.


Alright alright, but I still don't get why Hoody is so confident he will be there first...

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Susil wrote:
Teedub wrote:
Hoody/Blasky is most likely pretty familiar with the area, and that is why he felt so confident with walking back to Jay's car while filming random stuff (water, the sky, etc.) Hoody has probably analyzed and memorized the trails, so it wasn't difficult for him to get back before Jay.



This thows a fair few new questions out there if its true.

Mainly, of course, who is familiar with this area? Its a long way from the hometown of the original MH crew. The mention of the hotels suggests Alex knows the area, the most likely explaination being that its where he moved to 4 years ago - though this isn't for sure. There's the old MH guys who were MIA (Brian in particular, perhaps also Seth) but really there's nothing to tie them to Rosswood specifically. Indeed, one popular theory if that one or both may have been trapped for years in Slendy-Limbo / the Basement - certainly no time for hiking and getting to know a new area.

The one character with a confirmed familiarity with the area around Rosswood Park is Jessica. But I really struggle to see where she came from and how she got to be / be involved in TTA if it is her returning the camera.


Even if Rosswood Park is near where Alex moved, we surely know that it isn't him. The contents of Entry #42 almost cancel out the chance of him being hoody.

That is a good point about Jessica. However, I really don't think it could be her. The body type is totally different, but I guess she could have somehow covered it up.

No matter what the circumstances are, I definitely believe that hoody is ToTheArk.

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doesn't jay just randomly appear in the machine room, and only once? it has to be a basement, because there's only two floors to the house and we've already seen the upstairs. clearly it's not on the main floor because then the house would be twice it's size. when alex/seth point the light at stairs leading up, that leads me to believe theyr'e in the basement of brians house.


also hoodie probably saw jay running the wrong way knowing he wouldn't get out faster. he stops and pauses at the rivers and stuff to get his bearings. regardless of how far inland he was, if jay didn't know his way around a forest that was a few miles deep and he did, he could be sure to make it out first.

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pravado wrote:
doesn't jay just randomly appear in the machine room, and only once? it has to be a basement, because there's only two floors to the house and we've already seen the upstairs. clearly it's not on the main floor because then the house would be twice it's size. when alex/seth point the light at stairs leading up, that leads me to believe theyr'e in the basement of brians house.

Well, I'm not saying you're wrong, because that would simplify the scene, and I hope you're right !
But when jay look around in the machinery room, there's the same stuff we could see in the room where Alex & Seth went to (the cylinder, for instance ; or slendy's attack at the end). And when they were there, Alex & Seth went up some creepy stairs. And I doubt these could be in a simple house basement.

pravado wrote:
also hoodie probably saw jay running the wrong way knowing he wouldn't get out faster.
Good point.

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FINALLY read 21 pages, that was a marathon!

Just a couple of things to add:

1) Why were so many people confusing Jessica and Amy? Alex clearly says' Amy' in this entry, and she was on screen and named when she discovered the camera just before her disappearance.

2) Pravado's timeline is spot on; Jay got mega lost in a woods he doesn't know, and Hoody is clearly familiar with it.

3) Disregard ANY thoughts of Alex being Hoody; if we were meant to of seen a hoody in his car, we would of seen a hoody, not a partial yellow shape.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
4) Troy's blog is very helpful in some aspects, ie. pointing out that Hoody's actor is merely a stand in, so comparing body types is useless here.


That is all Smile

EDIT: No it's not! I've just rewatched Entry 40 after having a think and noticed 2 things. Firstly when Jay is sat on the log talking to Alex's answer phone, he reckons he's 15/20 minutes away from his car. Interesting when you use the running pace times posted early by someone (I forget who, apologies). Secondly, just by roughly gauging it, he runs out of the clearing (after encountering our slim friend) the opposite way to which he entered, thus making the 'severely lost in the woods ' theory more probable.

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SlenderPunk wrote:
FINALLY read 21 pages, that was a marathon!

Just a couple of things to add:

1) Why were so many people confusing Jessica and Amy? Alex clearly says' Amy' in this entry, and she was on screen and named when she discovered the camera just before her disappearance.

2) Pravado's timeline is spot on; Jay got mega lost in a woods he doesn't know, and Hoody is clearly familiar with it.

3) Disregard ANY thoughts of Alex being Hoody; if we were meant to of seen a hoody in his car, we would of seen a hoody, not a partial yellow shape.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
4) Troy's blog is very helpful in some aspects, ie. pointing out that Hoody's actor is merely a stand in, so comparing body types is useless here.


That is all Smile


I agree with most of this, but...

OOG:

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Troy posted a blog entry that tells us that nothing that he puts on his blog will spoil anything in the series. He also never said that hoody's actor was a stand in. He only said that Tim helped with the shoot. This could mean anything.


EDIT: I also agree that Alex is definitely not Hoody. He just can't be.

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Alright, timeline sorted.

Next on: What does alex do between 01:30 and 01:32 when he raises his hand?

1. He let's Hoody who is sitting under the tree know he's there. It doesn't have to be a wave, just raising his arm so Hoody sees he's there (and a sign that Hoody can leave?)

2. He raises his hand to cover his eyes from the sun so he can see in the distance. However it's a bit short for that + not really that bright out.

3. He scratches his head. Once again, it's a bit quick for that + they easily could'v redone the shot if it was the actor who had an itch.

4. Alex suffers from spasms.

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Teedub wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Troy posted a blog entry that tells us that nothing that he puts on his blog will spoil anything in the series. He also never said that hoody's actor was a stand in. He only said that Tim helped with the shoot. This could mean anything.


Ah, true, I clearly created some blanks and filled them in myself. Whoopsies!

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NewInTown2 wrote:
Ok timeline sorted.

Next on: What does alex do between 01:30 and 01:32 when he raises his hand?

1. He let's Hoody who is sitting under the tree know he's there. It doesn't have to be a wave, just raising his arm so Hoody sees he's there (and a sign that Hoody can leave?)

2. He raises his hand to cover his eyes from the sun so he can see in the distance. However it's a bit short for that + not really that bright out.

3. He scratches his head. Once again, it's a bit quick for that + they easily could'v redone the shot if it was the actor who had an itch.

4. Alex suffers from spasms.


Alex does wear glasses, so he might have been pushing them up. And I don't see why they would have redone that shot just because there was a split second where a character did something human (god forbid)

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NewInTown2 wrote:
Alright, timeline sorted.

Next on: What does alex do between 01:30 and 01:32 when he raises his hand?

1. He let's Hoody who is sitting under the tree know he's there. It doesn't have to be a wave, just raising his arm so Hoody sees he's there (and a sign that Hoody can leave?)

2. He raises his hand to cover his eyes from the sun so he can see in the distance. However it's a bit short for that + not really that bright out.

3. He scratches his head. Once again, it's a bit quick for that + they easily could'v redone the shot if it was the actor who had an itch.

4. Alex suffers from spasms.


Well, I've seen some theories that Alex had Hoody go to Rosswood and keep an eye on Jay while he drives there. While this is an interesting theory, I'm not sure if I could buy it.

Also, Alex could have just been adjusting his glasses. Cool

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