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Tao
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Rubiks Dude wrote:
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It's ok. But considering that ingame this takes place during mid may and filmed OOG in early June. In Georgia. Now, I have never lived in Georgia, but I'm pretty sure that no one in their right mind would be wearing a tan hoodie with the hood up when it's getting hot out.

That's the point : I watched this scene in 720p, and I didn't see any hoodie. That really could be someone with a blond (or light brown) hair, wearing a shirt in the same color as Blaskys/Hoodys.


Well I hate to burst any bubbles, but it just doesn't make sense for it to be anyone other than Hoody. This person is placed very deliberately in the shot, and they wouldn't go to such great lengths to confuse us. Let's be honest, these guys are not really the "red herring" type. As far as I know, neither Jay or Alex has ever done anything to deliberately set us off on the wrong course. It's all just open speculation at this point.

I've looked at the image very closely and what appears above the shoulders in the exact same colour as the sweater. There also looks to be a hood extending past the face, concealing the identity.

Trust me people, this is the character we saw at the end of entry 42.

[EDIT: what Syne and That Crazy Viking said....]

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Rubiks Dude wrote:
That Crazy Viking wrote:
It's ok. But considering that ingame this takes place during mid may and filmed OOG in early June. In Georgia. Now, I have never lived in Georgia, but I'm pretty sure that no one in their right mind would be wearing a tan hoodie with the hood up when it's getting hot out.

That's the point : I watched this scene in 720p, and I didn't see any hoodie. That really could be someone with a blond (or light brown) hair, wearing a shirt in the same color as Blaskys/Hoodys.
It's a hoody, no doubt. We can see that it's not a t-shirt, the kind of shirt one would be expected to wear in this sort of weather. Playing it in 720p and pausing it in fullscreen, you can take note of the persons arm and see that the sleeves extend much farther than a t-shirt would. Ergo, it's a long sleeved shirt. And since no one in their right mind would simply decide to wear this sort of outfit at that time of year, we can safely assume that it's a hoody, and probably blasky.

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 		Jeez, I fell into a trap full of conspirationnists Razz

Well, TTA wrote "signs everywhere" in the video after all... So... maybe you're right.

I'm still thinking it's just a coincidence or a fake trail (tight on purpose by the crew) though.

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 		Does anyone else want Jay to go back to the tapes and find the second half of #38? I feel like that might have been the time that they met, and Jay got the full story, which put him where he seems to be in this entry. Or one other option.

Theory #1- #38 was Alex and Jay's first meeting after the rock-to-leg incident, and Alex took the time in the forest to explain the situation with the Operator to Jay. During this time, he also explained the situation of whatever happened to whichever "she" he refers to in this entry (Amy most probably, Jessica possibly but far less probably), and enlisted Jay's help, saying that he'd call him again, leading to #39 and #40. Then Jay, still mostly unfamiliar with the woods, and frustrated that Alex wasn't there, ends up spotting our Slender friend, leading to the entry we see before us.

Theory #2- Alternatively, the timeline goes as most people have been assuming (which so far seems to be a very safe assumption), and these entries directly follow the brick-to-leg incident. Jay is unfamiliar with the Operator, and this was his first real exposure. The discussion regarding this "she" happens in the fragmented portions of the tape reviewed in #35 and #36. After the current entry, Jay and Alex return to the hotel as planned, and Alex leads Jay on a tramp through the woods in a safer region the next day (or shortly thereafter, no need to hurry these things), which is the discussion seen in #38.

For the record, these are theories without much backing evidence, but I would like to see the second half of #38 regardless, as no matter where it falls in the timeline, it seems to contain some VERY plot-important moments.

Moving on (golly, I'm beginning to feel like Dray, coming in on an entry late and posting a huge WOT), I'd like to say that I, like many, do not support the Alex-as-Hoody-as-TTA correlation, with the weakest bond now being Alex to either of the others. This entry clearly hurts the Alex-as-Hoody people, and as we see in this entry, the fisheye camera seems to be Alex's main camera. Using this information, we can then review TTA's videos, especially those that seem to have been filmed by TTA, and search for this effect. However, upon a cursory search by myself, none of them seem to display this effect. So, while Hoody might (and in my opinion, may extremely possibly) be TTA, Alex seems to be neither.

Using what we have deduced so far, we can thus determine that-

1- Tim, who is Masky (as per #36), is not TTA (as per evidence found in #36, #40, and Forecast).

2- Alex, who seems to have no notable alter-egos, is not TTA (see above).

3- Hoody, whose identity remains unknown, is potentially TTA (as per evidence between #41, intermission, and #42).

4- Brian, who has not been seen in many entries, can not be reliably linked to any alter-ego.

5- Seth, who has not been seen in many entries, can not be reliably linked to any alter-ego.

6- Jessica, who has not been seen in many entries, cannot be reliably linked to any alter-ego, save for a largely remote possibility that she is Hoody, which, as stated, is unlikely.

7- Amy, who has not been seen in many entries, cannot be reliably linked to any alter-ego, and seems to be the subject of a search by Alex.

8- The Operator is something altogether inhuman, and less than unlikely to be anything other than his creepy-ass self.
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TheBioGuy wrote:
8- The Operator is something altogether inhuman, and less than unlikely to be anything other than his creepy-ass self.


Lol'd a bit for some reason.

I was so sure Alex was going to be Hoody/TTA, but I guess this entry pretty much confirms he's at least not Hoody.

Damn. And I really thought Alex fit the role. Sad
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Randoman96 wrote:
TheBioGuy wrote:
8- The Operator is something altogether inhuman, and less than unlikely to be anything other than his creepy-ass self.


Lol'd a bit for some reason.

I was so sure Alex was going to be Hoody/TTA, but I guess this entry pretty much confirms he's at least not Hoody.

Damn. And I really thought Alex fit the role. Sad


Yeah, I did that for that reason. I realized I was getting long-winded sciencey there, and lightened it up for dramatic effect. Laughing

And believe me, I felt the same way. This entry made me go WHAAAAA!?!?!
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Rubiks Dude wrote:
Jeez, I fell into a trap full of conspirationnists Razz

Well, TTA wrote "signs everywhere" in the video after all... So... maybe you're right.

I'm still thinking it's just a coincidence or a fake trail (tight on purpose by the crew) though.


For what it's worth, don't listen to all these people that are saying 'The guy under the tree IS Hoody' and stick with what you feel. They don't know that they're right any more than you do. It's what makes this game fun.

Tao wrote:
Let's be honest, these guys are not really the "red herring" type. As far as I know, neither Jay or Alex has ever done anything to deliberately set us off on the wrong course


what about the frequent showings of Masky in TTA's earlier videos? Up until 41 the majority of viewers thought that Tim was TTA.

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Rubiks Dude wrote:
Anyway, I'm looking forward to a ToTheArk response. Now that we know that the drawing in "Intermission" was showing Jay against the tree in #42, I can't stop thinking the next one will add new questions...


Like I said on page 20, it was resolved that the "person under the tree" was TTA/hoody, because they were clearly sketching (later the pictures we see in Intermission). The "face" on the figure are also very reminiscent of the "eye holes" on Hoody. It is clearly not Jay sitting under the tree in 42. I don't even know how people get that idea. It's TTA watching Jay and the Operator from afar in Entry 40.

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Syne wrote:
what about the frequent showings of Masky in TTA's earlier videos? Up until 41 the majority of viewers thought that Tim was TTA.


I don't think that was a red herring, so much as they're instances which we do not yet understand.

Also, I have a question that I'd like to address to everyone.

Now, I'm not saying that Hoody isn't TTA, because I just don't know either way, but don't you think if he was, he would have kept the tape/entry 41 to his/her self and posted it as an entry on his own channel?

Not to say that it's unlikely of him to post on Jay's channel, Enttry 37 is proof of that. But TTA seems to love the whole "I saw you" bits. You'd think he'd use something like a missing camera as leverage.

Not causing controversy, just bringing up a point. Interested to see what you guys think.

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Syne wrote:
Said person is in a position more reminiscent of the drawing than Jay is though.


Agreed. I'll take it a step further and point out that the figure in the drawing is behind the tree watching (big eyes!), and the setting is in the woods by the fallen tree; this context for the drawing would suggest it's not end-of-42 leaning-against-tree-and-spacing-out Jay.

@Rubiks Dude: you're right. The figure is too far away and small, even in 720p and fullscreen, to say with absolute certainty that it's wearing a hoody. However, if it's not a hoody, its hair is exactly the same color and shade as its shirt, and (again, as Syne said), that's a mighty big coincidence. Compare the scene to entry #12, in which the camera sweeps across and pauses on a man in a dark suit for ten seconds. In #42, the camera spends as much time on the figure beneath the tree, but sweeps back to him THREE times.

In each case, we are obviously supposed to see the figure and take notice. If the person beneath the tree is not Hoody, then it's Redd Herring.

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Syne wrote:
It's what makes this game fun.

For sure !

[OFF THREAD]
That brings to my mind all that stuff about LOST (the online games during each summer, etc.). I know that a lot of people hated the show, but that wasn't the case for me. It was a great experience to me and my friends, lot of speculation after each episodes (and these cliffhangers... fuck !). One of the best shows.
[/OFF THREAD]

I'm glad because MH brings back these kind of feelings Very Happy (feelings that disappeared when LOST ended).

JayQue wrote:
The "face" on the figure are also very reminiscent of the "eye holes" on Hoody.

lolwut

If you wanna go that way, can i add that the trees on the drawing were drawn without any leaves (as if they were burnt or setting during the winter) ? Unlike the trees in #42, totally green.

See ? We're both wrong then, haha.

mokie wrote:
In each case, we are obviously supposed to see the figure and take notice

To be honest, I didn't even see him the first time. I had to read that hint here to notice it :/

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Rubiks Dude wrote:


mokie wrote:
In each case, we are obviously supposed to see the figure and take notice

To be honest, I didn't even see him the first time. I had to read that hint here to notice it :/


Me neither, but the camera deliberately pans at least 2 times to the tree where Hoody sits under (first time at the start of the entry and a second time at the end of the entry when Hoody is gone). It kinda of makes it obvious that we are supposed to look closely to the tree and anything around it.

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Tao wrote:
Syne wrote:
what about the frequent showings of Masky in TTA's earlier videos? Up until 41 the majority of viewers thought that Tim was TTA.


I don't think that was a red herring, so much as they're instances which we do not yet understand.

Also, I have a question that I'd like to address to everyone.

Now, I'm not saying that Hoody isn't TTA, because I just don't know either way, but don't you think if he was, he would have kept the tape/entry 41 to his/her self and posted it as an entry on his own channel?

Not to say that it's unlikely of him to post on Jay's channel, Enttry 37 is proof of that. But TTA seems to love the whole "I saw you" bits. You'd think he'd use something like a missing camera as leverage.

Not causing controversy, just bringing up a point. Interested to see what you guys think.


Well you make a valid point there, but TTA made his point either way don't you think? "I''m always watching over you"

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Rubiks Dude wrote:
mokie wrote:
In each case, we are obviously supposed to see the figure and take notice

To be honest, I didn't even see him the first time. I had to read that hint here to notice it :/


It helps if you're on your third cup of coffee and jumping at every shadow and creak in the room. That may be because the videos prime us to hyperfocus on potential tall men in the woods beyond. We miss the casual stalkers for the trees (or in Jay's case, the rooms big enough to hold a casual stalker for the trees), and convince ourselves that there were no other cars on the lot when there plainly are. Smile

He could be an innocent park-goer like the hiker in 31. Or he could be the hiker from 31, and it could be there are no coincidences. Ooh, the paranoia's kicking in!

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 		Can I please interject in all of this childish ass-play to say that the drawing in "Intermission" has fucking hair? Long hair? where Jay has next to none?

RubiksDude: When you said "Since we KNOW the drawing is of Jay" and then later on making yourself look increasingly ignorant by pointing out how green the trees are, you destroyed your own argument.

But please, for the love of God stop being dicks.
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