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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD?] 8-3-11
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Mandapreso
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 		Top Down / Boottom Up
Fleurlur wrote:
Also on the "Get Involved" page if you highlight the whole page at the top in tiny writing it says ~18,000 and at the bottom in tiny writing it says "Top Down" not sure if anyone spotted this yet.


Mandapreso wrote:
I think we all saw the little "top down" on page GetInvolved.html ...
What do you think about the Top-down and Bottom-Up information processing Strategies.?

Top-down and bottom-up are strategies of information processing and knowledge ordering, mostly involving software, but also other humanistic and scientific theories (see systemics). In practice, they can be seen as a style of thinking and teaching. In many cases top-down is used as a synonym of analysis or decomposition, and bottom-up of synthesis.
A top-down approach (also known as step-wise design) is essentially the breaking down of a system to gain insight into its compositional sub-systems. In a top-down approach an overview of the system is formulated, specifying but not detailing any first-level subsystems. Each subsystem is then refined in yet greater detail, sometimes in many additional subsystem levels, until the entire specification is reduced to base elements. A top-down model is often specified with the assistance of "black boxes", these make it easier to manipulate. However, black boxes may fail to elucidate elementary mechanisms or be detailed enough to realistically validate the model.
A bottom-up approach is the piecing together of systems to give rise to grander systems, thus making the original systems sub-systems of the emergent system. In a bottom-up approach the individual base elements of the system are first specified in great detail. These elements are then linked together to form larger subsystems, which then in turn are linked, sometimes in many levels, until a complete top-level system is formed. This strategy often resembles a "seed" model, whereby the beginnings are small but eventually grow in complexity and completeness. However, "organic strategies" may result in a tangle of elements and subsystems, developed in isolation and subject to local optimization as opposed to meeting a global purpose.

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my theory is that this is some kind of behavioral assessment.

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mandyann98
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 		ok... alphekka is latin for break... referring to the broken circle of stars that make up the northern crown.. also can be referred as Alphecca.... what I dont understand is why the alt's are all mixed up...like...

Alphekka.png - alt=ophiuchus
rasalhauge.png - alt=(the sun and triangle)... idk how to do that lol...
altair.png - alt=(umbrella)

is Alphekka and the umbrella somehow related like the other two?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:02 pm
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The11thDoctor
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 		No reply yet on formspring. They are probably still over loaded.
I like the direction that things are going with the constellations.
As for the behavioral experiment, maybe, the idea seems plausible.
I think all the NSA links are just coincidence, but then again there are no coincidences.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:08 pm
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The11thDoctor
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mandyann98 wrote:
ok... alphekka is latin for break... referring to the broken circle of stars that make up the northern crown.. also can be referred as Alphecca.... what I dont understand is why the alt's are all mixed up...like...

Alphekka.png - alt=ophiuchus
rasalhauge.png - alt=(the sun and triangle)... idk how to do that lol...
altair.png - alt=(umbrella)

is Alphekka and the umbrella somehow related like the other two?


The umbrella can possibly relate to the sky above..?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:13 pm
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Arion
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 		Re: From Germany
Mandapreso wrote:
Arion wrote:

I'm from Germany, so let me help you out.


HI, Have you heard the music in te page "LookingFoorSomethingThatNeverExisted"?

For me is a kind of old german or Tirolese music...
A Lot of people think that music is in "foxtrot" stile, but i'm sure they are wrong.


No, I didn't listen to it yet, but I will do so in a moment.

Edit: Ok, so I just listened to it and I fully agree with you. I'm not sure if you know it, but Germany is split into 16 states (kinda like the USA, but the laws are pretty much the same in all states). The music sounds like a traditional song from one of these states (Bayern). It's the state that Germany is "known" for. The Oktoberfest is located there, people at that place wear "Lederhosen", etc. I also assume that this song belongs in the "Volksmusik" (folk music) genre and another evidence for the song coming from Bayern is that the singer is yodeling, which is a common thing there.

As for the content of the song, I couldn't really understand anything due to the bad sound quality, but from what I understood, I assume that the song is about people loving their home/the right place (that would also match with the Volksmusik genre), meaning that you should "go to the right place" (the homepage) aswell because it is better there.

I'm not sure if this really helps us, though.

Edit 2: This is really weird. If you stay long enough on the site, the song will end and some weird noises start playing. After that, a man starts talking on German, music plays, another man talks on German and another song starts playing. If you want me to, I will translate what he is saying.

Edit 3: Looking at the source code of that page, I've noticed that the song is called "LostInTheMountains".mp3, which is yet another indication for my assumption, that the song is about going back to the right place when you are lost, because it is better there.

Also, I wonder why the "You're Lost" image is called "TheCorkTree".jpg. What does it have to do with a tree? I googled "The Cork Tree" and found this site. I am pretty sure that this site was already posted somewhere in this thread, since I remember visiting it only a few days ago.

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The11thDoctor
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 		Re: From Germany
Arion wrote:
Mandapreso wrote:
Arion wrote:

I'm from Germany, so let me help you out.


HI, Have you heard the music in te page "LookingFoorSomethingThatNeverExisted"?

For me is a kind of old german or Tirolese music...
A Lot of people think that music is in "foxtrot" stile, but i'm sure they are wrong.


No, I didn't listen to it yet, but I will do so in a moment.

Edit: Ok, so I just listened to it and I fully agree with you. I'm not sure if you know it, but Germany is split into 16 states (kinda like the USA, but the laws are pretty much the same in all states). The music sounds like a traditional song from one of these states (Bayern). It's the state that Germany is "known" for. The Oktoberfest is located there, people at that place wear "Lederhosen", etc. I also assume that this song belongs in the "Volksmusik" (folk music) genre and another evidence for the song coming from Bayern is that the singer is yodeling, which is a common thing there.

As for the content of the song, I couldn't really understand anything due to the bad sound quality, but from what I understood, I assume that the song is about people loving their home/the right place (that would also match with the Volksmusik genre), meaning that you should "go to the right place" (the homepage) aswell because it is better there.

I'm not sure if this really helps us, though.



Sounds like it "Know your place" Which is part of the not found pages.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:23 pm
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Mandapreso
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 		Re: From Germany
The11thDoctor wrote:
Arion wrote:
Mandapreso wrote:
Arion wrote:

I'm from Germany, so let me help you out.


HI, Have you heard the music in te page "LookingFoorSomethingThatNeverExisted"?

For me is a kind of old german or Tirolese music...
A Lot of people think that music is in "foxtrot" stile, but i'm sure they are wrong.


No, I didn't listen to it yet, but I will do so in a moment.

Edit: Ok, so I just listened to it and I fully agree with you. I'm not sure if you know it, but Germany is split into 16 states (kinda like the USA, but the laws are pretty much the same in all states). The music sounds like a traditional song from one of these states (Bayern). It's the state that Germany is "known" for. The Oktoberfest is located there, people at that place wear "Lederhosen", etc. I also assume that this song belongs in the "Volksmusik" (folk music) genre and another evidence for the song coming from Bayern is that the singer is yodeling, which is a common thing there.

As for the content of the song, I couldn't really understand anything due to the bad sound quality, but from what I understood, I assume that the song is about people loving their home/the right place (that would also match with the Volksmusik genre), meaning that you should "go to the right place" (the homepage) aswell because it is better there.

I'm not sure if this really helps us, though.



Sounds like it "Know your place" Which is part of the not found pages.


The .mp3 file is named "lostinthemountains", in english, but i'm looking for the real name in german but is too hard to find, and i'm not sure if this will be important.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:33 pm
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mandyann98
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 		mandyann98 wrote:
ok... alphekka is latin for break... referring to the broken circle of stars that make up the northern crown.. also can be referred as Alphecca.... what I dont understand is why the alt's are all mixed up...like...

Alphekka.png - alt=ophiuchus
rasalhauge.png - alt=(the sun and triangle)... idk how to do that lol...
altair.png - alt=(umbrella)

is Alphekka and the umbrella somehow related like the other two?


The umbrella can possibly relate to the sky above..?


possibly... I also found this stuff too....

all three stars are the brightest star in each of there respected constellation.
all three have an orbiting companion.

rasalhauge is in the beginning stages of dying...

and i looked at a star map and all three stars form a straight line from what i could tell and rasalhauge is in the middle... "close" "friends" maybe..

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:49 pm
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krissleh
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mandyann98 wrote:
mandyann98 wrote:
all three have an orbiting companion.


I knew Alphekka was a binary, but I didn't find any reference to the other two as well... links?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:04 pm
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Mandyann98
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 		I just googled the names... I'll get them up soon.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:23 pm
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hardtoremember
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mandyann98 wrote:

The umbrella can possibly relate to the sky above..?


If you turn the umbrella upside down it looks like a satellite dish.

Read this:

http://www.thewatchtowers.com/proof-that-comet-elenin-is-affecting-earth/

although it might sound crazy there are tons of pages on the internet about comet Elenin. Who knows if it is a brown dwarf or not but the fact is that the event starts for Earth on 8-3-11. With all of the talk of constellations and such I think there's something to it.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:17 am
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anon coward
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hardtoremember wrote:
mandyann98 wrote:

The umbrella can possibly relate to the sky above..?


If you turn the umbrella upside down it looks like a satellite dish.

Read this:

http://www.thewatchtowers.com/proof-that-comet-elenin-is-affecting-earth/

although it might sound crazy there are tons of pages on the internet about comet Elenin. Who knows if it is a brown dwarf or not but the fact is that the event starts for Earth on 8-3-11. With all of the talk of constellations and such I think there's something to it.


from your link Wink

"August 3, 2011 marks the time that the earth passes through the brown dwarf perigee position, while the brown dwarf is crossing the earth orbit location. About two weeks pass and on August 18 the brown dwarf crosses the Venus orbit some 67 million miles from the sun. Then 24 days pass to when the brown dwarf reaches the nearest point to the sun at 44.73 million miles. September 25, 2011 marks the time that the earth passes through the second conjunction with the sun, brown dwarf, Mercury, Saturn and Uranus in line for another gravitational alignment."

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:40 am
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Guest
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 		Hey. I was just reading through the thread and saw this link but I've never seen the image before

http://8-3-11.info/View7ProgressSTC.png

At first I though it was the other drawing but this look more detailed and it has a strange symbol in the corner.

has anybody seen this one yet? sorry if this is talked about im just getting into this recently

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:19 am
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Guest
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Hey. I was just reading through the thread and saw this link but I've never seen the image before

http://8-3-11.info/View7ProgressSTC.png

At first I though it was the other drawing but this look more detailed and it has a strange symbol in the corner.

has anybody seen this one yet? sorry if this is talked about im just getting into this recently


Sweet! No, this hasn't been posted in this thread yet. Just how did you manage to find this image?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:20 am
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JMast
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 		Re: Casseopeia
PureRage wrote:
In formspring someone asked:
"You are fond of constellations aren't you. I liked them too Smile"
and 175k replies:
"Cassiopeia is our favorite."

So just from looking at Wikipedia I found that there's more connections to rocks with Cassiopeia (the vain queen).

Maybe unrelated, the constellation Cassiopeia is upside-down half the time.



anyone else have thoughts about this
i found this particularly interesting

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