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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD?] 8-3-11
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Ghotipheys
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Lisis_M wrote:
So, basically the translated view6progressSTC just appeard on 4chan, that seems as an intensional leak

Why does that seem intentional? Someone from /x/ may have used kosmopol's pdf. If I'm not mistaken, the translated image showed up after the pdf.

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MaverickofKain
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Anonymous wrote:
I know I'm not the only who who caught this question and answer:

http://www.formspring.me/8X3X11/q/215662361124575946

So they know that they're making a very, very big mistake. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

We are getting trolled aren't we?


Probably just more 175,000 Sarcasm.

Also... if Sam isn't human... clearly a member has a pet.

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MaverickofKain
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krissleh wrote:
Sayuri wrote:

This is probably a coincidence, or me trying to make something out of nothing, but I thought it was sort of strange.


It would make a great coincidence, but the project extends past 8-3-11, so I doubt it's involved. I'll PM you a post I recently saw about DoD and social media though. I found it to be interesting.

edit:
Unfortunantly I lost the specific link, but it dealt with how the DoD wants to be able to get counter-intelligence out faster, should someone blog something they consider to be "sensitive".


its itanimulli.org/

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Lisis_M
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Ghotipheys wrote:
Lisis_M wrote:
So, basically the translated view6progressSTC just appeard on 4chan, that seems as an intensional leak

Why does that seem intentional? Someone from /x/ may have used kosmopol's pdf. If I'm not mistaken, the translated image showed up after the pdf.


to solve it only with the pdf, without some type of key or hit about the symbols seems very unlikely. The pdf has a list of the glyphs used in wich you put a value on them, for example you could place the letter T as a value for the circle glyph; and then the pdf finds the place of that glyph on the diagram and uses the normal letter. You have an absurd number of possible combinations as you do not even understand the image, or it's purpose

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krissleh
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MaverickofKain wrote:
its itanimulli.org/


bahahah no, no it was NOT that.

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Fegelein
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http://awesomescreenshot.com/04fgk9j5f

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Lisis_M
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Fegelein wrote:
http://awesomescreenshot.com/04fgk9j5f


the comment seems deleted now, do not know why =(

maybe because they are not related???

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Ghotipheys
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Lisis_M wrote:
Ghotipheys wrote:
Lisis_M wrote:
So, basically the translated view6progressSTC just appeard on 4chan, that seems as an intensional leak

Why does that seem intentional? Someone from /x/ may have used kosmopol's pdf. If I'm not mistaken, the translated image showed up after the pdf.


to solve it only with the pdf, without some type of key or hit about the symbols seems very unlikely. The pdf has a list of the glyphs used in wich you put a value on them, for example you could place the letter T as a value for the circle glyph; and then the pdf finds the place of that glyph on the diagram and uses the normal letter. You have an absurd number of possible combinations as you do not even understand the image, or it's purpose

If you assume a cypher uses a simple replacement encryption, then the first step would be to check "Letter Frequency." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_frequency
The first few letters of the view6 cypher follow letter frequency quite precisely. After that you use trial and error looking for recognizable words. If you notice, the decrypter of the cypher mistook a C as a D, because DON'T is a word, but CONT is not.

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18001
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P*QDNYUOE*D*NAT

Has anyone got ANY ideas about the "word" above 68000's name?

Assuming that the two unknowns will be letters J, X or Z and that it's a simple Caesar cipher (as per the clues in the image alt tags) I have used a spreadsheet to calculate EVERY possible decoding assuming alphabets of both 26 and 38 characters. Then reversed that text. All I created was pages of gibberish! I'd be happy to post the whole thing but I don't think it would do any good!!


PJQDNYUOEXDXNAT

QKREOZVPFYEYOBU
RLSFP0WQGZFZPCV
SMTGQ1XRH0G0QDW
TNUHR2YSI1H1REX
UOVIS3ZTJ2I2SFY
VPWJT40UK3J3TGZ
WQXKU51VL4K4UH0
XRYLV62WM5L5VI1
YSZMW73XN6M6WJ2
ZT0NX84YO7N7XK3
0U1OY95ZP8O8YL4
1V2PZ*60Q9P9ZM5
2W3Q0*71R*Q*0N6
3X4R1A82S*R*1O7
4Y5S2B93TASA2P8
5Z6T3C*4UBTB3Q9
607U4D*5VCUC4R*
718V5EA6WDVD5S*
829W6FB7XEWE6TA
93*X7GC8YFXF7UB
*4*Y8HD9ZGYG8VC
*5AZ9IE*0HZH9WD
A6B0*JF*1I0I*XE
B7C1*KGA2J1J*YF
C8D2ALHB3K2KAZG
D9E3BMIC4L3LB0H
E*F4CNJD5M4MC1I
F*G5DOKE6N5ND2J
GAH6EPLF7O6OE3K
HBI7FQMG8P7PF4L
ICJ8GRNH9Q8QG5M
JDK9HSOI*R9RH6N
KEL*ITPJ*S*SI7O
LFM*JUQKAT*TJ8P
MGNAKVRLBUAUK9Q
NHOBLWSMCVBVL*R
OIPCMXTNDWCWM*S

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Arion
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Re: P*QDNYUOE*D*NAT

18001 wrote:
Has anyone got ANY ideas about the "word" above 68000's name?

Assuming that the two unknowns will be letters J, X or Z and that it's a simple Caesar cipher (as per the clues in the image alt tags) I have used a spreadsheet to calculate EVERY possible decoding assuming alphabets of both 26 and 38 characters. Then reversed that text. All I created was pages of gibberish! I'd be happy to post the whole thing but I don't think it would do any good!!


PJQDNYUOEXDXNAT

The problem is that there only 4 vowels, so you probably can't make a single world out of it, but multiple ones.

Edit: Can you do me/us a favour and upload the whole 'thing' on this site?

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Lisis_M
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Ghotipheys wrote:
Lisis_M wrote:
Ghotipheys wrote:
Lisis_M wrote:
So, basically the translated view6progressSTC just appeard on 4chan, that seems as an intensional leak

Why does that seem intentional? Someone from /x/ may have used kosmopol's pdf. If I'm not mistaken, the translated image showed up after the pdf.


to solve it only with the pdf, without some type of key or hit about the symbols seems very unlikely. The pdf has a list of the glyphs used in wich you put a value on them, for example you could place the letter T as a value for the circle glyph; and then the pdf finds the place of that glyph on the diagram and uses the normal letter. You have an absurd number of possible combinations as you do not even understand the image, or it's purpose

If you assume a cypher uses a simple replacement encryption, then the first step would be to check "Letter Frequency." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_frequency
The first few letters of the view6 cypher follow letter frequency quite precisely. After that you use trial and error looking for recognizable words. If you notice, the decrypter of the cypher mistook a C as a D, because DON'T is a word, but CONT is not.


LOL you have a point there, also I completely forgot that the orignal translation had DONT instead of CONT. why would the PM have an error like that on an intentional leak?

Anyway, the translation seems correct and has worked for the view7, the fake image and the "second diagram"

As for the P*QDNYUOE*D*NAT i posted earlier, I think one of those missing symbols is a number but I do not think it helps at all it still seems as gibberish

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boone
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Re: code

mandyann98 wrote:
omg... this may mean absolutely nothing but here goes... when it says eliminate 3rd.. i took it as eliminate the third letter like this...

P_QDN_UOE_D_NAT = P_DNUO_DNA

now reverse it like the OREO OERO thing...

AND_OUND_P.... like maybe it could say and round up or something... idk it just looks neat and could be a hint....


I couldn't get anywhere with this idea at first (well, I guess I still can't, really) because the only letters we had left to use were J, X, and Z, but maybe this sort of thing might work if we use numbers for letters like with "8311". If the whole "3rd" or "#3" thing is right, we can't use 3, but maybe "AND8OUND_P" or something? This doesn't lead to anything solid yet, but I'm just trying to think of new strategies to grease the wheels a bit.

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deedee
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on page six, the GUEST said she had been in comtact with the site for about a week , but that she had to get out now.
what does that mean? why would she have to get out? did she get scared or something? did no one else see that? she was the one that leaked the image and she said she would be blacklisted for it, but I guess she did not care since she had decided to end it.....

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Arion
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deedee wrote:
on page six, the GUEST said she had been in comtact with the site for about a week , but that she had to get out now.
what does that mean? why would she have to get out? did she get scared or something? did no one else see that? she was the one that leaked the image and she said she would be blacklisted for it, but I guess she did not care since she had decided to end it.....

The user was lying. I wonder why you adress him as "she", though, because he clearly said "I was the guy who..." (plus it was on page 5 and it was booba who posted it, not a guest). Anyway, his comment was posted on 4chan, the least reliable source that I know. Do you really believe the talk of a person from there? Also, he hasn't offered proof that he is part of the group and the link to his post is broken, either because it was deleted, or because the link was wrong from the beginning on.

Personally, I don't buy something like that from a person that is affiliated with 4chan, unless there is any proof.

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boone
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Arion wrote:
deedee wrote:
on page six, the GUEST said she had been in comtact with the site for about a week , but that she had to get out now.
what does that mean? why would she have to get out? did she get scared or something? did no one else see that? she was the one that leaked the image and she said she would be blacklisted for it, but I guess she did not care since she had decided to end it.....

The user was lying. I wonder why you adress him as "she", though, because he clearly said "I was the guy who..." (plus it was on page 5 and it was booba who posted it, not a guest). Anyway, his comment was posted on 4chan, the least reliable source that I know. Do you really believe the talk of a person from there? Also, he hasn't offered proof that he is part of the group and the link to his post is broken, either because it was deleted, or because the link was wrong from the beginning on.

Personally, I don't buy something like that from a person that is affiliated with 4chan, unless there is any proof.


I'm pretty sure deedee is talking about the guest at the top of page twelve who leaked the second coded message, gender unknown:

guest wrote:
I've been in contact with 8-3-11 for almost a week but i have to get out.
they mailed this code today. I think its how to decode their messages but they aren't telling us anything, or at least not me.
i'll probably get blacklisted for this.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=20p7ygm&s=7


This has always bothered me, since, as far as I know it's the only source for the second coded message.

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