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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD?] 8-3-11
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woahman
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could also be an A or H for the last character...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:22 am
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MaverickofKain wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I know I'm not the only who who caught this question and answer:

http://www.formspring.me/8X3X11/q/215662361124575946

So they know that they're making a very, very big mistake. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

We are getting trolled aren't we?


Probably just more 175,000 Sarcasm.

Also... if Sam isn't human... clearly a member has a pet.

Could be referring to Microsoft Sam, he is a windows personality. Which would be their computer.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:38 am
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Quote:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/8311-the-truth/la-verdad/256327274384213


With respect to this...they talking about that famous "SAM" is a PLACE
And my mind is traslate to SAM'S TOWN...and I remember that "The Killers" (the band) has a disc with that name hahahahaa of course this link is a fuckin' joke! ... Wink

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:44 am
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Anonymous wrote:
boone wrote:
Looking back through the thread, I'm coming to suspect the poster Coolson33 of being involved. That may not be good form to suspect other posters, but try it out for yourself. Skim back through the thread and read his posts. Does he seem to know more than one should be able to assume at any given point?


well,I really missed the presence of some users, as the mentioned Coolson33, TheLastSasquatsch and Allen Jacoby.


"Guest" was me, just i forget to log in

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:46 am
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Arion
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Re: Maybe another clue

Lisis_M wrote:

Also, on this page are claming that some of the PMs sent them an e-mail

http://www.facebook.com/notes/8311-the-truth/la-verdad/256327274384213

Haha, the majority of the users which posted there don't buy his crap and neither do I. Just like the first user states, his comment isn't reliable until he posts a screenshot of the Email. I really dislike these spanish people who constantly lie about this topic.

Edit:

Translation:

Sebastian Galvis: "Post a screenshot of the email to be more reliable"
Luis Arvizu: "Agree with Sebastian .."
Castaneda Marquez Cookie: "Totally agree with Sebastian, a screenshot is more credible"

[...]

Nessa D'Veggan: "This is totally and completely false. Why? Because if the administrator had actually decided to tell the truth, the first person had not been this X guy, but he had written it on the website or Formspring."

...and so on.

I expect the idiots who actually believe the "Truth" facebook comment to ask 8𠖥1 on formspring again if this is true. I can imagine how tired they are of reading such false bs.

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yep wrote:

oh and what is this thing on her lips?

After seeing this I decided to take a closer look at the image aswell and I also found something that hasn't been posted yet. Has anyone noticed this scar(?) on her forehad?

If you think is a fake, try it out for yourself. The only thing I did was changing the contrast. You can see it on the original image too, but it is a little bit harder to spot there.



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:42 am
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yeah also similar marks on bridge of nose and her upper lip. the mark you refer to becomes a zig zag shape or something similiar with adustment using levels (ctrl-l). drag the left and right markers in along the tone map to adjust the white and black points. the spot in between the eyebrows is where i almost agree with the constellations-on-face post. i cant really see the first characters as he says, but more like a harry potteresque zig zag or an X.

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yep wrote:
yeah also similar marks on bridge of nose and her upper lip. the mark you refer to becomes a zig zag shape or something similiar with adustment using levels (ctrl-l). drag the left and right markers in along the tone map to adjust the white and black points. the spot in between the eyebrows is where i almost agree with the constellations-on-face post. i cant really see the first characters as he says, but more like a harry potteresque zig zag or an X.

Another weird thing I've noticed is the dark spot under her cheeks, at the point where the two faces are merged together.

http://i.imgur.com/oJkhA.png (the image is quite big and I don't want to spam the thread with images)

Also, looking at the darker image, you can clearly see the dividing line between the two faces (the same applies for the hair). I think this is proof enough for our theory that the image consists of at least two persons. I know that this has already been pointed out earlier, but in this version you can see it very good.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:55 am
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the two images for the pdfs are also different. they appear to have been individually modified from the original. see the shading on the lower right (where arion has circled), also the left side jaw bone, and the greater highlight detail in the hair.

i overlayed the images and scaled to the same size, but could not see any significance in the differences. To do this, overlay the two images as seperate layers and make top blend mode 'difference' (hey what do you know, this is what it is for!) and it will highlight any areas which are different. One of the images seems to have the side shadow possibly added as a 'lighting effect', which the other seems to be more like the original with the frontal lighting.

As a side note I can't really see this being two images joined directly down a single line vertically, the face is not an exact frontal image, as you can see the nose is offset to one side, also the eyes. I do not rule out the possibility of this being two images joined in a more difficult manner, such as isolating whole features and merging the images, eg. nose from one image, eyes from the other, mouth from one image, etc. This would be more like a identikit photo style method. If this is the case it is an EXTREMELY good job.

There really are no clone marks etc, to show where touch ups have been made (over the top of of the ambient noise level i mean). Maybe the noise has been artificially added afterwards to a clean photo to homogenize the appearance of the image, but this is starting to get into PRO image manipulation.

Take this with a grain of salt, although I have been a graphic artist for 10+ years now.

THE PART ON THE HAIR STILL STUMPS ME. How can a part be on the side AND on the top? Is it a scar? Surgery? How can you have two hair-parts like that? It really appears to be part of the captured image in that area, and not damage to the photo medium.

thanks to everyone throwing their ideas in!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:46 am
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I don't think the image is edited at all. Belle has a skin disorder. Just sayin, look at the more important things. Like the diagram.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:58 am
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Anonymous wrote:
I don't think the image is edited at all. Belle has a skin disorder. Just sayin, look at the more important things. Like the diagram.

What about the hair though? How do you explain the weird difference between the hair on the left and the hair on right side?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:00 am
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I do agree there were some interesting developments in the new image.

The six sided star symbol with 8311 around the edge, with the 3 dots. Is this a red herring? The six pointed star is an internationally recognised symbol for jewish identity or judaism... anyone, anywhere looking at that symbol would immediately make association. Surely it cannot be such an obvious clue?

Possibly the three dots mean something? (once again on the dots, one dot, two dots, three dots, dot dash - morse code morse code morse code)

Do the three dots represent three missing numbers?

Are they purely for aesthetics?

Maybe the umbrella represents knowledge and isn't anything to do with a literal umbrella (eg umbrella = knowledge), so now it is tied into a star?

Knowledge about a star on a particular date? This leads down the path of the elenin comet actually being a brown dwarf or being followed by a brown dwarf (both according to conspiracy buffs) which will be at perigee on 8.3.11 which is our very own Mr Sol's twin star, which explains the twin references and the binary star connections with the listed stars.

I cannot see how an elderly Belle fits into this, or the photo of a 6 year old Belle.

Or knowledge about a jewish something?

Maybe the answer is one of our guesses, and all the rest is misdirection, and its not actually a game, its a warning. They were accepting people right from the start, so it must have been able to be solved with the original clues, prior to the image releases even.

I'm starting to think this is a bit like 'lost' though, and is being scripted by the community input, like a feedback loop. 8-3-11 comes, and its over. And this was it. The game. No real answer, just the fun of mystery.

I'll put it out here again:[url]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia[/url]

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yep wrote:
Or knowledge about a jewish something?

Thanks for bringing that up, because I now have another theory based on that. The first image was about John 8:3-11, telling us "don't. Throw Stone", in other words, not to throw stones at others if we ourselves have commited sins. Jews have been haunted since a long time and in some countries, this is still the case.

According to a question on Formspring, Belle was 6 when the image was taken and is now 83/2(?) years old, meaning that the image is at least 77 years old. In other words, it was taken during the WWII, back when jews were haunted by the Nazis and mass-murdered. Belle could be a jewish girl whose family was murdered in a "Konzentrationslager" (KZ) and because she survived these horrific events (and is probably still scared of being haunted by someone), she has now changed her name (according to a question on formspring, the girls name was "Belle" when she was younger, but now she has another name).

The meaning of all this is, according to my theory, that we should not make the same mistake as our ancestors and haunt jews, religious groups in general/activists/etc. for what they believe in, because we ourselves are not perfect either, in other words, we are sinners aswell. None of us are therefore allowed to throw stones at those people.

A little bit of evidence for my theory are these four questions (there are a few more, though) which were asked on Formspring. If I remember correctly (I might look it up later), the first one was something along the lines of "What would you call me if I throw a stone?" and 175,000 answered "A liar."

The second one is this one, which is even more interesting:

"are you a kind of religion?. cause if you are this really sucks"

"Accept people for who they are."


The third one is this one:

"Are you atheist?"

"No."


And last but not least the fourth one is this one:

"Where are Belle's parents?"

"Dead."


There are a few more questions that back up my theory, if you want me to, I will also post them here.

Do consider my theory to be possibly valid or do you rather think it is complete gibberish?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:27 am
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Arion wrote:
yep wrote:
Or knowledge about a jewish something?

Thanks for bringing that up, because I now have another theory based on that. The first image was about John 8:3-11, telling us "don't. Throw Stone", in other words, not to throw stones at others if we ourselves have commited sins. Jews have been haunted since a long time and in some countries, this is still the case.

According to a question on Formspring, Belle was 6 when the image was taken and is now 83/2(?) years old, meaning that the image is at least 77 years old. In other words, it was taken during the WWII, back when jews were haunted by the Nazis and mass-murdered. Belle could be a jewish girl whose family was murdered in a "Konzentrationslager" (KZ) and because she survived these horrific events (and is probably still scared of being haunted by someone), she has now changed her name (according to a question on formspring, the girls name was "Belle" when she was younger, but now she has another name).

The meaning of all this is, according to my theory, that we should not make the same mistake as our ancestors and haunt jews, religious groups in general/activists/etc. for what they believe in, because we ourselves are not perfect either, in other words, we are sinners aswell. None of us are therefore allowed to throw stones at those people.

A little bit of evidence for my theory are these four questions (there are a few more, though) which were asked on Formspring. If I remember correctly (I might look it up later), the first one was something along the lines of "What would you call me if I throw a stone?" and 175,000 answered "A liar."

The second one is this one, which is even more interesting:

"are you a kind of religion?. cause if you are this really sucks"

"Accept people for who they are."


The third one is this one:

"Are you atheist?"

"No."


And last but not least the fourth one is this one:

"Where are Belle's parents?"

"Dead."


There are a few more questions that back up my theory, if you want me to, I will also post them here.

Do consider my theory to be possibly valid or do you rather think it is complete gibberish?

While I agree that there maybe a spiritual/religious aspect to this, the stone throwing parable is christian, not jewish.

In regards to Belle's parents being dead, she's 83.

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Ghotipheys wrote:
While I agree that there maybe a spiritual/religious aspect to this, the stone throwing parable is christian, not jewish.

Jesus was a jew (duh), so why would it matter if the parable is not part of what jews believe in today (as it's not part of the OT)?


Ghotipheys wrote:
In regards to Belle's parents being dead, she's 83.

Indeed, but who said that her parents died a natural death? It is only a theory and should not be considered a fact. It's just an explanation that I came up with a few minutes ago.

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