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[IRuleHyRule118]

[Anonymousity]

GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE MISSING THE OBVIOUS!!



We shouldn't decide on this JUST NOW; but first clear some things up!!

copy/paste from EMH thread:

THIS IS A TRAP!!

It's a trap from beginning to end!!!

1.) FRA must have been well aware HABIT knew he didn't have the box! Why pretend having it if he never had it in the first place, apart for UFers? HABIT does know who he sent a box to. If FRA lied, it would give him no further advance in the trials, he could only fool UFers. The Box WAS real!!

2.) If the Box was real, then why did FRA "lie" in the last video he made it up??

3.) Why does he think the Rabbit's can choose on his fate?? HABIT does - the Rabbits ain't got nothing to do with it!! Who's HABIT - budging to the Rabbit's decisions on who to keep and who not to keep??

My word is that this will either decide the fate of his roommate, or that it will decide the direction TRIAL7 will take!!

In short: WE NEED MORE INFO!!

[RatheadSyndicate]

Anonimousity has a point. I think HABIT is fucking with us through FRA. Either that, or we're gonna need some serious 'splaining done for us, because I admit to being a little perplexed by this whole shebang.

[Anonymousity]

c/p from the EMH thread again, to make my point clearer:

Let's roll this up backwards:

FRA: "Fuck it, I can't participate in the trials, what Ima gonna do....?"

He comes up with the idea to make a FAKE box and pretend it is a HABIT box.

FRA: "HEY HABIT, so I know you know where I live, and you know who and when you did send boxes to, yet I pretend that you forgot about this and pretend you did send me this LOL! Will work!! Trial 7 here I come!"

HABIT: "Wha- dude, I KNOW you didn't get a box from me, so... Ah, eff it, Ima go eat yr roommate nao..."

*eats rommate*

FRA: "OMG, SO SAD PANDA!! Confession: I made up the box that I just said was gone and now you guys decide, although HABIT has proven you were unimportant and all."

HABIT: "OK, I'll let the Rabbits decide what to do with FRA, busy w/ other things."

^
This = unlikely to me.

Now, think about it this way:


1.) HABIT sends FRA a mail:

"PUNY HUMAN - DO A VIDEO PRETENDING YOU LIED TO THE RABBITS, TO NEVER HAVE HAD A BOX! HAVE THEM VOTE ON YOU! THIS SHALL DECIDE YOUR FATE!!"

It fits with his MO, not to mention with FRA's reaction, ESPECIALLY WITH "Confession 1" and "Confession 2" (trial part 1, trial part 2).

If we decide the wrong way round, this may have consequences not for FRA, but for the voters

[Ouroborus]

Pretty much.

This reeks of "No right answer"

[Anonymousity]

[UberTaco]

Eh, I agree with one thing: this seems sorta pointless. If it was said that there would be those who desired exclusion, the implication is that they could not of their own volition gain that exclusion.

Thus, this whole thing is pointless, since we're voting on whether someone already included should elect to exclude themselves -- something that's been established as an impossibility.


The whole thing smells a bit of the exact same sort of attention-grabbing as any other gamejack.

Plus, I'll remark that I don't like the tone of "well, I guess I'm the only goon left and you guys are all on unFiction", as though attempting to manufacture some conflict.

So in summary: a manufactured ineffectual vote in order to gain attention and possibly manufacture further conflict (and thus further attention).

I think I'll go watch some paint dry instead.

[kirokokori]

@UberTaco: We established this isn't a gamejack, so let's not go there again. And, I'm fairly certain the Unfiction comment simply meant he thought it would be easy for us to coordinate on this.

Anyway, gah, I've read through the arguments for whether we should keep him in or not and they both have good points and this is not helping my natural indecisiveness.

Not to rehash things that have already been said; I feel like perhaps it would be better to keep him in based on the fact that HABIT did technically let him through already. Going, "lolol nevermind I'm just gonna bow out now" after all that is maybe not the best idea.

[Anonymousity]

[ChildOfAtom]

[TheCake]

[Anonymousity]

[sje46]

I really have to agree with anonymouisity here. No one else is making any sense at all. The idea of FRA saying he had the box to "see what would happen" or to gamejack or because he's a dick....it doesn't make any sense, because why would HABIT ever take it seriously at all? Why would FRA ever think HABIT would take it seriously?

Why would any human, in this position, ever have this thought process? Put yourself in FRA's shoes. What makes the most sense...that he would lie to HABIT about something that HABIT would know isn't true and hope HABIT takes it seriously, or not?

It's a fake confession. Since FRA wasn't able to complete Trial 6, he's making him do a make up exam.

[TheCake]

@Anonymousity

Okay, you need to calm down. It's difficult to get a point across when EVERY other WORD is IN capitals!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, everything we're discussing is theory and conjecture. Just as I have no concrete proof he never had the box, you have no proof the box in the video is the actual box.

As you said, it's fairly ridiculous to assume FRA thought he could pass trial 6 by holding a non existent box ransom. Which is why I do not believe he seriously thought it would work. Instead, he knew he was going to fail, so he might as well attempt to engage in conversation with Habit.

The way I see it, Habit attacked because he doesn't like it when people challenge him, leverage or not, especially not when he has already received a warning. Sure, he could have just said 'Whatever, you don't actually have a box.' but when Habit can make trouble he does.

I do not believe he ever had the box because I accept his confession at face value and don't believe he's had contact with Habit otherwise. The double twist idea just doesn't really gel with me, but again this is just my personal opinion I thought I'd share. If I'm wrong, oh well.

That was a terrible anology...

[alejlujah]

Okay (so glad I didn't just vote no). I understand what you guys are saying, because frankly, the apparent situation where all of this happened without HABIT's consent is... nonsensical.

But I would really like to hear from Full Round Action himself. Or is he avoiding our threads now? He must not -- how else would he find out our decision? Do we even have a time frame within to work?

I feel like... we are all expected to have voted 'no.' HABIT undoubtedly knows about our history with FRA, though I always thought that was mostly healed when he came back and posted his piece on uF. But still, we so easily could have let our emotions run high and voted him off, and that would have been the end of it. Assuming this was the expected outcome, do we /want/ to play into HABIT's hands? Let's be honest -- which course of action will leave /us/ safe?

Has anyone tried PMing FRA? I think I'm going to go for it.