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Mr_Magpie: Thanks!

ToxicityLevel wrote:
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Everyone seems to think that this video proves that Alex is a slenderminion. He might be, but I have some other theories.

1.) Alex doesn't want to tell Jay where he lives. While this could be because Alex is a minion and needs to be able to hide from Jay, it could just as easily be the opposite: Alex suspects (or knows) that Jay is a (probably part-time unwitting) minion and doesn't want Jay to be able to find him while he's under Slendy's control. This is supported largely by the huge gaps in Jay's memory: These could easily represent times he's been under Slendy's control. This doesn't mean that Alex wasn't (or isn't now) under Slendy's control.

2.) Alex seemed to know where he was going. I think he did know, or at least he had some idea and was intentionally trying to find the Slender Man. I don't think it's because he's a minion. Through the video, Alex is somber and frankly, I think he's getting to the end of his rope. I think in his desperation he decided it was time to confront Slendy.

3.) Slendy doesn't attack Alex directly/Alex gets up and walks towards Slendy. I have no explanation for Slendy not physically attacking Alex other than that he didn't need to. It seems that everyone thinks that when Alex got up and walked towards Slendy, it was slow and deliberate, "zombielike". I attribute the pace and deliberate movement to Alex's need to will himself to keep moving towards Slendy in the face of his apparent psychological/physiological attack.

Just my $.02.


^This. I already posted something similar. I'm in the same sort of boat with you. Alex isn't necessarily a minion at this point -- he may be after this video but I really feel like he was trying to DO something, rather than run around trying to find things out by skirting the issue -- Slenderman. He chose (stupidly perhaps) to face it head-on.


It seems entirely reasonable to me that Jay and Alex could both be part-time proxies at this point and not know it. Jay seems relatively oblivious, but I think Alex may have caught on to Jay possibly being a slendydoll. What Alex doesn't realize is that he could just as easily be one too.

Very probably, this is the state that Jessica is in as well. Hard to say whether Tim is under control of Slendy or has just been driven mad by him.

Perhaps Amy is ToTheArk?

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t3hkender wrote:
Everyone seems to think that this video proves that Alex is a slenderminion. He might be, but I have some other theories.

1.) Alex doesn't want to tell Jay where he lives. While this could be because Alex is a minion and needs to be able to hide from Jay, it could just as easily be the opposite: Alex suspects (or knows) that Jay is a (probably part-time unwitting) minion and doesn't want Jay to be able to find him while he's under Slendy's control. This is supported largely by the huge gaps in Jay's memory: These could easily represent times he's been under Slendy's control. This doesn't mean that Alex wasn't (or isn't now) under Slendy's control.

2.) Alex seemed to know where he was going. I think he did know, or at least he had some idea and was intentionally trying to find the Slender Man. I don't think it's because he's a minion. Through the video, Alex is somber and frankly, I think he's getting to the end of his rope. I think in his desperation he decided it was time to confront Slendy.

3.) Slendy doesn't attack Alex directly/Alex gets up and walks towards Slendy. I have no explanation for Slendy not physically attacking Alex other than that he didn't need to. It seems that everyone thinks that when Alex got up and walked towards Slendy, it was slow and deliberate, "zombielike". I attribute the pace and deliberate movement to Alex's need to will himself to keep moving towards Slendy in the face of his apparent psychological/physiological attack.

Just my $.02.


Very good point. I can see this happening.
Though, I'm not too sure.
Why would Alex intentionally go to confront Slenderman without any sort of weapon?
Not physical, mind you... but could Alex know something that could stop Slenderman? Or did he have an idea of some sort? Why would he just... GO into the forest unprepared? Before he goes in, he looks hesitant yet resolved when he finally stands up. And he just stands there, not even backing away or moving forward (at least from what I could tell) when he sees the Operator.

If Alex is our hero, then why would he think he could stand a change against the Operator now?

Though, Alex has been known (and seen in several Entries) to deliberately go after the Slenderman...

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t3hkender wrote:
Perhaps Amy is ToTheArk?


I don't think so. Amy hasn't been involved enough with the plot to be TTA. I think she barely knows how to operate the camera, let alone cut together creepy videos. I also think that if she's TTA she'd have never picked up that camera and focused it on Alex long enough to draw the Operator to them, sending them out a window and her off to god knows where. TTA seems to know about the dangers of the Operator and how to avoid them, or at least not get caught up in them too too much.

EDIT: To fix the cocked-up quote box, and to agree with Magpie down there. Smile

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t3hkender wrote:
Perhaps Amy is ToTheArk?


The only issue I have with this line of thinking is that we really don't know how long Alex and Amy have been involved or known eachother. And in order for Amy to be totheark (because I REALLY do not support the theory that there was one totheark for the 'first season' and another for the 'second season') she must have been involved in all of this from the very beginning - so, at least two years, but for some reason never have been involved with or mentioned in the original filming of Marble Hornets.

EDIT: Also everything my comrade above stated.

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StarlitVixen wrote:
t3hkender wrote:
Everyone seems to think that this video proves that Alex is a slenderminion. He might be, but I have some other theories.

1.) Alex doesn't want to tell Jay where he lives. While this could be because Alex is a minion and needs to be able to hide from Jay, it could just as easily be the opposite: Alex suspects (or knows) that Jay is a (probably part-time unwitting) minion and doesn't want Jay to be able to find him while he's under Slendy's control. This is supported largely by the huge gaps in Jay's memory: These could easily represent times he's been under Slendy's control. This doesn't mean that Alex wasn't (or isn't now) under Slendy's control.

2.) Alex seemed to know where he was going. I think he did know, or at least he had some idea and was intentionally trying to find the Slender Man. I don't think it's because he's a minion. Through the video, Alex is somber and frankly, I think he's getting to the end of his rope. I think in his desperation he decided it was time to confront Slendy.

3.) Slendy doesn't attack Alex directly/Alex gets up and walks towards Slendy. I have no explanation for Slendy not physically attacking Alex other than that he didn't need to. It seems that everyone thinks that when Alex got up and walked towards Slendy, it was slow and deliberate, "zombielike". I attribute the pace and deliberate movement to Alex's need to will himself to keep moving towards Slendy in the face of his apparent psychological/physiological attack.

Just my $.02.


Very good point. I can see this happening.
Though, I'm not too sure.
Why would Alex intentionally go to confront Slenderman without any sort of weapon?
Not physical, mind you... but could Alex know something that could stop Slenderman? Or did he have an idea of some sort? Why would he just... GO into the forest unprepared? Before he goes in, he looks hesitant yet resolved when he finally stands up. And he just stands there, not even backing away or moving forward (at least from what I could tell) when he sees the Operator.

If Alex is our hero, then why would he think he could stand a change against the Operator now?

Though, Alex has been known (and seen in several Entries) to deliberately go after the Slenderman...


Like I said: he's desperate. Tired, scared and not thinking straight. I think he's in a mental state where he just wants this to END.

Or maybe he wasn't intending on physically confronting the Slender Man. Maybe his intent was to try to talk to it and that (evidently) didn't go so well.

I don't think Alex is our hero. I think he's our example: Don't try to directly confront Slendy unprepared.

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
t3hkender wrote:
Perhaps Amy is ToTheArk?


The only issue I have with this line of thinking is that we really don't know how long Alex and Amy have been involved or know eachother. And in order for Amy to be totheark (because I REALLY do not support the theory that there was one totheark for the 'first season' and another for the 'second season') she must have been involved in all of this from the very beginning - so, at least two years, but for some reason never have been involved with or mentioned in the original filming of Marble Hornets.


I agree. She just seems to be in the game as a motivational tool for Alex rather than some important player. The Hostage/Bargaining Chip rather than Leading the Game behind the scenes.

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
t3hkender wrote:
Perhaps Amy is ToTheArk?


The only issue I have with this line of thinking is that we really don't know how long Alex and Amy have been involved or known eachother. And in order for Amy to be totheark (because I REALLY do not support the theory that there was one totheark for the 'first season' and another for the 'second season') she must have been involved in all of this from the very beginning - so, at least two years, but for some reason never have been involved with or mentioned in the original filming of Marble Hornets.

EDIT: Also everything my comrade above stated.


Fair enough. Just sort of an offhand idea.

I still don't actually understand Amy's significance other than that her and Alex apparently dated at some point after Marble Hornets was filmed and Slendy stuff went down and now she's missing.

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I doubt it...I mean you saw how he reacted just by being close to him...he was floored.
I think he still fears The Operator but has resigned to the fact that he cannot escape and will serve the purpose that has been set for him...I mean a person who would be directly confronting his imminent death after not being able to cope with anything should be showing more emotion but it feels to me more like an underling fearful of his powerful masters retaliation and plans...
Talk to it? He's seen what Slendy can do and has experienced it first hand...I mean he also didn't try very hard to speak to it after the first time...I would think you'd try to run away(which he did at first) rather than mosey on over

And Alex did try to search for him, but as far as I know that was before Alex really knew what the Slender Man was doing at all, he went from the hunter to hunted...

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t3hkender wrote:
Mr_Magpie wrote:
t3hkender wrote:
Perhaps Amy is ToTheArk?


The only issue I have with this line of thinking is that we really don't know how long Alex and Amy have been involved or known eachother. And in order for Amy to be totheark (because I REALLY do not support the theory that there was one totheark for the 'first season' and another for the 'second season') she must have been involved in all of this from the very beginning - so, at least two years, but for some reason never have been involved with or mentioned in the original filming of Marble Hornets.

EDIT: Also everything my comrade above stated.


Fair enough. Just sort of an offhand idea.

I still don't actually understand Amy's significance other than that her and Alex apparently dated at some point after Marble Hornets was filmed and Slendy stuff went down and now she's missing.


That actually completely sums it up. Cool

Except then of course Skully shows up and confuses everyone's wee little bb heads.

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t3hkender wrote:
StarlitVixen wrote:
t3hkender wrote:
Everyone seems to think that this video proves that Alex is a slenderminion. He might be, but I have some other theories.

1.) Alex doesn't want to tell Jay where he lives. While this could be because Alex is a minion and needs to be able to hide from Jay, it could just as easily be the opposite: Alex suspects (or knows) that Jay is a (probably part-time unwitting) minion and doesn't want Jay to be able to find him while he's under Slendy's control. This is supported largely by the huge gaps in Jay's memory: These could easily represent times he's been under Slendy's control. This doesn't mean that Alex wasn't (or isn't now) under Slendy's control.

2.) Alex seemed to know where he was going. I think he did know, or at least he had some idea and was intentionally trying to find the Slender Man. I don't think it's because he's a minion. Through the video, Alex is somber and frankly, I think he's getting to the end of his rope. I think in his desperation he decided it was time to confront Slendy.

3.) Slendy doesn't attack Alex directly/Alex gets up and walks towards Slendy. I have no explanation for Slendy not physically attacking Alex other than that he didn't need to. It seems that everyone thinks that when Alex got up and walked towards Slendy, it was slow and deliberate, "zombielike". I attribute the pace and deliberate movement to Alex's need to will himself to keep moving towards Slendy in the face of his apparent psychological/physiological attack.

Just my $.02.


Very good point. I can see this happening.
Though, I'm not too sure.
Why would Alex intentionally go to confront Slenderman without any sort of weapon?
Not physical, mind you... but could Alex know something that could stop Slenderman? Or did he have an idea of some sort? Why would he just... GO into the forest unprepared? Before he goes in, he looks hesitant yet resolved when he finally stands up. And he just stands there, not even backing away or moving forward (at least from what I could tell) when he sees the Operator.

If Alex is our hero, then why would he think he could stand a change against the Operator now?

Though, Alex has been known (and seen in several Entries) to deliberately go after the Slenderman...


Like I said: he's desperate. Tired, scared and not thinking straight. I think he's in a mental state where he just wants this to END.

Or maybe he wasn't intending on physically confronting the Slender Man. Maybe his intent was to try to talk to it and that (evidently) didn't go so well.

I don't think Alex is our hero. I think he's our example: Don't try to directly confront Slendy unprepared.


Of course he's all those. But he still has Amy to think about and I don't think he'd end it in such a way where he would incapacitate himself by directly confronting the Operator.

I don't see why he'd think he'd talk. That just seems silly to me... And if he DID want to talk, he'd at least shout, "Hey!" as soon as he saw him before his coughing fit. And if it's true he wasn't under control and he still wanted to talk, when he was shuffling forward he would once again try to talk...

Why would he make an example of him? Hm... I think he's trying to be a hero in some way. Especially the gesture of not wanting Jay to come with him. I don't think he thinks Jay is a puppet of the Operator, but maybe he's trying to watch out for him? Like how in Entry #42 he scolds him for going out in the woods alone and for losing the camera.

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lostbrane wrote:
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Very good point. I can see this happening.
Though, I'm not too sure.
Why would Alex intentionally go to confront Slenderman without any sort of weapon?
Not physical, mind you... but could Alex know something that could stop Slenderman? Or did he have an idea of some sort? Why would he just... GO into the forest unprepared? Before he goes in, he looks hesitant yet resolved when he finally stands up. And he just stands there, not even backing away or moving forward (at least from what I could tell) when he sees the Operator.

If Alex is our hero, then why would he think he could stand a change against the Operator now?

Though, Alex has been known (and seen in several Entries) to deliberately go after the Slenderman...


I doubt it...I mean you saw how he reacted just by being close to him...he was floored.
I think he still fears The Operator but has resigned to the fact that he cannot escape and will serve the purpose that has been set for him...I mean a person who would be directly confronting his imminent death after not being able to cope with anything should be showing more emotion but it feels to me more like an underling fearful of his powerful masters retaliation and plans...
Talk to it? He's seen what Slendy can do and has experienced it first hand...I mean he also didn't try very hard to speak to it after the first time...I would think you'd try to run away(which he did at first) rather than mosey on over

And Alex did try to search for him, but as far as I know that was before Alex really knew what the Slender Man was doing at all, he went from the hunter to hunted...


I feel like you quoted the wrong person. ._.;;
It sounds like you are disagreeing with me, but I am saying what you are saying.
And I didn't say anything about talking to him. o:

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To expand on my "Jay is Hollowed Out In His Free Time" theory: Maybe Jay is TTA.

Specifically, maybe TTA is Jay's "hollowed-out" split personality and posting those videos is his way of trying to communicate with his conscious half ("Jay").

Alternately, perhaps Slendy makes him post the videos as a medium--a way for Slendy to attempt to communicate with Jay.

It almost makes sense--the times when Jay's account has been "hacked" that may or may not be attributable to ToTheArk would be explained if Hollow Jay knew Jay's account info. Similarly, Hollow Jay would have physical access to all of the videos and audio he's used in his videos. With some of this stuff, it's still a mystery how TTA got ahold of it in the first place. Hollow Jay being TTA accounts for that.

Thoughts?

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t3hkender wrote:
Fair enough. Just sort of an offhand idea.

I still don't actually understand Amy's significance other than that her and Alex apparently dated at some point after Marble Hornets was filmed and Slendy stuff went down and now she's missing.


I think when Alex left he did everything he could to restart his life and be "normal" again, and forget movies and Slendy, and everything else that took him to the point where he was before J convinced him to hand over the tapes. He probably figured the tapes were the thing -- and that by giving them to J he'd passed on the "curse". So he got himself a job, a laptop, a girlfriend and whatever else it took to move on. And just when he got comfortable a mysterious camera appears...

I know people think the camera was Alex's. But WHY would he keep a camera when all they brought him was Slendypain? Amy says she found it in a closet. Is it possible that TTA, Timasky, or someone else planted it? Alex seems so adamant about the camera and so surprised to even see it that I always wondered if someone hadn't put it there to draw him back into the mess HE started to finish it. (Because TTA is so adamant that J has accomplished nothing of merit.)

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StarlitVixen wrote:
lostbrane wrote:
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Very good point. I can see this happening.
Though, I'm not too sure.
Why would Alex intentionally go to confront Slenderman without any sort of weapon?
Not physical, mind you... but could Alex know something that could stop Slenderman? Or did he have an idea of some sort? Why would he just... GO into the forest unprepared? Before he goes in, he looks hesitant yet resolved when he finally stands up. And he just stands there, not even backing away or moving forward (at least from what I could tell) when he sees the Operator.

If Alex is our hero, then why would he think he could stand a change against the Operator now?

Though, Alex has been known (and seen in several Entries) to deliberately go after the Slenderman...


I doubt it...I mean you saw how he reacted just by being close to him...he was floored.
I think he still fears The Operator but has resigned to the fact that he cannot escape and will serve the purpose that has been set for him...I mean a person who would be directly confronting his imminent death after not being able to cope with anything should be showing more emotion but it feels to me more like an underling fearful of his powerful masters retaliation and plans...
Talk to it? He's seen what Slendy can do and has experienced it first hand...I mean he also didn't try very hard to speak to it after the first time...I would think you'd try to run away(which he did at first) rather than mosey on over

And Alex did try to search for him, but as far as I know that was before Alex really knew what the Slender Man was doing at all, he went from the hunter to hunted...


I feel like you quoted the wrong person. ._.;;
It sounds like you are disagreeing with me, but I am saying what you are saying.
And I didn't say anything about talking to him. o:


sorry! i saw the other guys post while typing mine up and wanted to comment rather than quoting requoting ya know...laziness :p but yeah ill edit that real quick...

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t3hkender wrote:
To expand on my "Jay is Hollowed Out In His Free Time" theory: Maybe Jay is TTA.

Specifically, maybe TTA is Jay's "hollowed-out" split personality and posting those videos is his way of trying to communicate with his conscious half ("Jay").

Alternately, perhaps Slendy makes him post the videos as a medium--a way for Slendy to attempt to communicate with Jay.

It almost makes sense--the times when Jay's account has been "hacked" that may or may not be attributable to ToTheArk would be explained if Hollow Jay knew Jay's account info. Similarly, Hollow Jay would have physical access to all of the videos and audio he's used in his videos. With some of this stuff, it's still a mystery how TTA got ahold of it in the first place. Hollow Jay being TTA accounts for that.

Thoughts?


Yeah the Alter Ego Jay has been brought up and I think that is still possible, but not enough proof. Though, there hasn't been much proof of anything else...

That could be why Alex is wary of him...

But how would TTAJ have videos of TiMasky?

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