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[VIDEO] Entry #43
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Sixteen32
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StarlitVixen wrote:

Why would Alex intentionally go to confront Slenderman without any sort of weapon?
Not physical, mind you... but could Alex know something that could stop Slenderman? Or did he have an idea of some sort? Why would he just... GO into the forest unprepared? Before he goes in, he looks hesitant yet resolved when he finally stands up. And he just stands there, not even backing away or moving forward (at least from what I could tell) when he sees the Operator.

This led me to another thought: if we're to take that the house event was followed near-immediately by the forest event (after dropping Jay off) ... what changed for Alex? He seems to be on a fact-finding mission with Jay, but then suddenly he changes tactics to go into the forest? Alone? It seems almost a 180. If he was planning to confront The Operator all along, then what was the purpose of going to the house? Why bring Jay there? Why not bring him into the woods?

If they weren't presented in the same Entry, I'd say these were two unrelated events. But since they are together - and seemingly edited together from two different sources no less (tape and HDD) - what's their connection? How did the amnesiatic Jay figure out to put them together?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:54 pm

WestRoadSal
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StarlitVixen wrote:

WestRoadSal wrote:

Ok so I just watched #Entry 43 and without reading the +30 pages we have here, I'm just going to list my initial reactions...

I do think Jessica's dead...,I so love the theory of Slendy eatin people to become more human because in this one he does have slight features in the face and well he's just become more human-like.To be honest he's not that tall in this one either,which sorta tells you something.

It seems like Alex doesn't want to tell Jay where he's living because it look's like through that portal thing he lands in a forest where Slendy is in. And he knows that considering he doesn't act all OH MY GOD!

So last minute of this video, I draw 3 conclusions:
1.Alex is a secret Slendy-servant and he knows Slendy's hideout and everything and is basically a minion. That choking that happens is most likely every time he encounters Slendy at first, then he gets all tranced up. Once he exits the portal he's back tobeing all nice and friendly Alex again but thinkin about it now, he must know what's going on between him and Slendy because he doesn't want to tell Jay where's he living which is probably in the forest with Slendy!

2.Once he goes through the Portal the forest he comes into looks really like the forest which Alex is yelling Jay to get out of in Entry #42, i think. He gets so mad because he doesn't want Jay to find out about his secret portal thingy!

I... don't think I believe Alex travels through portals.
If anything, I don't believe any theories as to what Slenderman USES or DOES with Alex at the moment, but I do believe that he controls him. We just haven't see anything that proves Alex's actions were heavily/completely controlled by the Operator.

I'm only sayin what I'm saying because it seemed like Alex knew what he was doing....he bent down just right to fit in the crevice so he coukld get in to the teleporter just right and when he emerged from it...he didn't act all shocked as to how that happened. It looks like he gets all tranced up because of the way he was walking when he woke up from the choking at the end but he realizes something because he knows not to tell Jay where he lives. And as of right now I have to put the forest as his home because he knew how to get in and he knew where he would land.

And to top that off when he saw Slendy before and after choking he didn't act the least shocked,suprised or worried at all. Like he knew the Operator was going to be there.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:56 pm

StarlitVixen
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Sixteen32 wrote:

StarlitVixen wrote:

Very very true. This is the source of my confusion. There is no change in Alex between when he was with Jay and now. The only information he gained was that the house is still empty.

There either has to be something that happened between the two parts (causing Jay to be an Unreliable Narrator) or maybe Jay finds a clip that happened earlier?

I personally think Jay is holding off some information, possibly?

And I definitely agree, how would Jay know these clips go together? Were there timestamps on the video to help him...?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:58 pm

WhyYouBawwing
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Theycallmehsexypants wrote:

Well, I have a theory, based off of what people are saying about how he is becoming more "human" and such.

His motives are to become human. He's already taken Amy, Brian, Seth, and Jessica, he's eaten/absorbed them and with each person he absorbs he gains more features similar to a person. He could have started out as a blob and absorbed a tall business man gaining the suit and height. If I remember correctly, we haven't seen Slenderman in present time yet. For all we know he absorbed Alex and grew a head of hair or wears glasses now. Just a thought.

Though honestly I don't think he looks more human, they just improved on his costume for that shot.

That's the second time now I've heard someone try to account for the suit. You don't need to account for the suit; that's just how he looks. It's like how no one questions just how the nostalgia critic got his tie.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:02 pm

t3hkender
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StarlitVixen wrote:

Sixteen32 wrote:

StarlitVixen wrote:

The one from the chestcam probably has a file time and date, though this seems dubious at best. Didn't Jay mention that most of this batch of tapes are "unlabeled, but in order"? Maybe something in another tape places Alex's chestcam forestwalk directly after he and Jay split in this entry.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:02 pm

StarlitVixen
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WestRoadSal wrote:

StarlitVixen wrote:

WestRoadSal wrote:

I think we've already debunked that this isn't teleportation. Alex merely ducks into a hole in a bush to get into the forest. I don't see any teleportation at all and when it was mentioned before, I went back and checked. If it was teleportation, they would make it a lot more obvious (OOG: for example, making Alex pan back behind him to show there was no hole he slipped through and that he was in a new forest area).

I don't believe Alex is living with the Operator but I do think he gave himself up willingly. The Operator could have been waiting for him, but remember he isn't human. His motives could be something else entirely. I think Alex was just giving himself up for Amy's sake or even to protect Jay...

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:03 pm

t3hkender
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Theycallmehsexypants wrote:

I really think that Slendy's slightly-more-human appearance in this entry is being overanalyzed. I really think at this point that it's just slightly sub-par costuming explaining why he's not as tall and perhaps some oversights in video editing to effectively remove the face of whoever they had playing him in this shot. I really don't think it has any bearing on the story at all.

On that note: Is our Slender friend becoming more casual? I don't see a tie this time around.

Edit: Nevermind, it's there, just kind of off-center so I didn't see it the first time around.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:10 pm

Sixteen32
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t3hkender wrote:

Is this the first time Jay has spliced separate pieces of video together? It seems that to this point he's not done more to "force" chronology between different tapes or sources than to state his own theories in the titlecards. Between the Tweet and this Entry, it seems to me that he's deliberately pushing a connection between these two bits of footage. That just makes the whole thing all the more suspect to me since if it weren't for Alex's shirt, I'd see nothing to link the two events.

I'm not so much doubting that they are chronological (perhaps with something missing between them?) so much as I am suspicious of why Jay has gone to such (relative) great lengths to stitch them together for us, and the fact that their order even further highlights the lack of logic and cohesion from House -> Forest.

It's important that we know Part One (house visit) was followed closely by Part Two (forest and Operator). But why?

Edit: clarification

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:23 pm

StarlitVixen
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Sixteen32 wrote:

t3hkender wrote:

Why? I think it's to show Alex's didn't want Jay around. When Alex tells Jay he doesn't want Jay to see where he lives yet, maybe it is to imply he's going to the forest directly after. Well that didn't specifically answer why... Maybe this is continuing the trend of Alex lying to Jay. Maybe Jay wants us to see that HE personally doesn't trust Alex. He wanted to create the impact.

Alex drops Jay off and says he's going back to his apartment.
Next part, he's at the forest.

^ Proves Alex is lying directly to Jay's face.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:27 pm

12th
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t3hkender wrote:

The Operator does look different. His proportions are sort of distorted for the distance that he's filmed at, but this is one of the first times we get a steady, full figure look at him. I think what people are seeing as him not being as tall is because HIS ARMS ARE INHUMANLY LONG. Seriously. His "hands" (there are no hands, only the end of his jacket sleeves) are well below the point that a normal person would have them. This is throwing off perspective and how we are seeing him in proportion to the rest of his body.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:30 pm

StarlitVixen
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Also, I'd like to add that we should possibly ask IG Jay on Twitter for some proof as to how he is sure the video from his own camera matches the video from Alex's chestcam.

(Matches, as in they are from the same day and play out in that same order.)

Seems to me Jay was just jumping back and forth between the videos on the tapes and the videos on the hard drive, trying to make any connection.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:32 pm

12th
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StarlitVixen wrote:

Also, I'd like to add that we should possibly ask IG Jay on Twitter for some proof as to how he is sure the video from his own camera matches the video from Alex's chestcam.

Alex wearing the same shirt, weather is roughly the same.

I can see where you're going with this, how do we know that Alex wasn't Slendernapped before he met up with Jay? My only response is that Alex doesn't look like he got rained on while waiting out in Rosswood Park (it's raining in the car when Jay and Alex are driving). I presume there should be a little timestamping on the files, but there's no way to get this confirmed without having Jay tell us directly that the timestamps match (and he's never given us that info).

On the issue of Alex having knowledge of the Operator's location, it is notable that Alex goes in a direction that no other entry has shown anyone going in. Every one of Jay and Alex's other documented trips have shown them going through the clearing toward the Nature Trail to Hell. Here in #43, Alex walks down a well-paved road, past a "stop sign" or traffic post in the middle of the road (probably says something like "no thru traffic" or whatever). The Kudzu Hedge that Alex approaches is maybe 100 feet past that marker (you can see it at 05:17, but a few seconds before will give you some perspective on distance).

Alex knew where he was going. If he was going into the woods based on Jay's assertion that "That Thing" was in the woods "A couple of miles back" in the trails...he would have stuck to the trails.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:43 pm

NewInTown2
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Alright just to make things clear to everyone: There is no teleportation in this entry.

Alex just ducks under a wall of overgrowth (not sure if that is the correct term for it Razz

)/ overgrown plants to end up in the forest behind it.

Now the real question is: Why does Alex takes that path?/How did he knew it was there? (the gap isn't visible from the path he was walking on)

Here a picture of the gap + the forest for good measure.

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:46 pm

WhyYouBawwing
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Looks like a pretty solid wall of dirt.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:50 pm

t3hkender
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12th wrote:

timestamps

As far as I understand it, Alex's "chest cam" uses digital storage and thus would have files with timestamps. But if I'm not mistaken, Jay's camera uses tapes and so unless he had the option for recording timestamps in the video itself, no timestamps.

He'd only have guesswork to go off of at that point, unless events in tapes we haven't had the privilege of viewing yet do place these two events directly after one another.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:50 pm

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