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niobexrev
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I thought Schuffhausen looked a little weird. So is this just half assed affects by tired PMs or is this a clue?
EDIT: (kind o' like the argument with the cascade vortex news pic. I don't think the PMs are this dumb, but then again I might be able to justify this one, not the cascade vortex one though).
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:10 pm
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niobexrev wrote:
I thought Schuffhausen looked a little weird. So is this just half assed affects by tired PMs or is this a clue?
Has to be some kind of clue?
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:11 pm
Statik
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well. not only is the photoshop job shabby, but look at the pheonix logo and those red lines by it. looks like a really rushed cropping job leaving behind old background color or something.
i think that what is trying to be expressed by all of this is that AQN is on the run. he is panicking a bit. this new persona and website are a real rush job for him.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:44 pm
Miss Starchild
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King Mob wrote:
Similar clothes, true, but Walsh is far younger than Wongmo.
But for a guy that alredy has many fake identities would not be very hard to have a fake picture in a web site, would it?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:33 pm
chancesend
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Statik wrote:
well. not only is the photoshop job shabby, but look at the pheonix logo and those red lines by it. looks like a really rushed cropping job leaving behind old background color or something.
i think that what is trying to be expressed by all of this is that AQN is on the run. he is panicking a bit. this new persona and website are a real rush job for him.
Agreed - the fact that the shirt is Steve Walsh's sems to be irrelevant to me. What we're supposed to understand from the photo is that this is the exact same picture as the Wongmo photo, except doctored very hastily. Though I admit it does look dang good for a hack-n-slash job.
I mean, he didn't even have time to take another picture of himself, trying to better conceal his identity? And the website is only one page - obviously he moved his whole operation quickly, or just hired a bunch of people, like, yesterday.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:36 pm
King Mob
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Miss Starchild wrote:
King Mob wrote:
Similar clothes, true, but Walsh is far younger than Wongmo.
But for a guy that alredy has many fake identities would not be very hard to have a fake picture in a web site, would it?
Ah, but that's assuming no-one has ever encountered Wongmo, except through his e-mails and website.
We know Beth has met Steven Walsh, so she would almost certainly recognise him from his photograph; and we know Philip has been e-mailing Beth about Wongmo. I don't know if she ever visited Wongmo's site, but if she did, and Wongmo and Walsh were one and the same, she'd quickly make the connection. That doesn't seem to have happened.
And, assuming the seminars that Wongmo talks about actually happened (within the game, of course) then people attending those seminars (including Philip, presumably) would see that either the Wongmo on the website was the same as in real life... or not.
So, they can't be the same person.
EDIT: Grammar
EDIT: Considering how doggedly Philip has been tracking AQN, I would think that he would at least know what the man looked like, or at least try to verify his ID based on the Wongmo photograph; although (paranoia setting in here) Dina did disappear just before she was supposed to visit one of Wongmo's seminars didn't she?
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:39 pm
Miss Starchild
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You have very good points, but I still disagree with some things:
King Mob wrote:
We know Beth has met Steven Walsh, so she would almost certainly recognise him from his photograph; and we know Philip has been e-mailing Beth about Wongmo. I don't know if she ever visited Wongmo's site, but if she did, and Wongmo and Walsh were one and the same, she'd quickly make the connection. That doesn't seem to have happened.
I was talking about Wongmo's picture being fake. I think Walsh's pic is real. If Wongmo's picture is fake, Beth wouldn't recognise him.
King Mob wrote:
although (paranoia setting in here) Dina did disappear just before she was supposed to visit one of Wongmo's seminars didn't she?
Nothing like a good piece of paranoia, I say
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:11 pm
King Mob
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Miss Starchild wrote:
You have very good points
I always make good points!
Okay, Miss Starchild, you now have me pulling out my hair from insanity! Let me ask everyone else - can we confirm for a fact that Phil Gairden has seen AQN in real life and has not commented on any facial differences between the real-life Wongmo and the photographic one?
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:38 pm
Pierre
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niobexrev wrote:
Quote:
I thought Schuffhausen looked a little weird. So is this just half assed affects by tired PMs or is this a clue?
Just a wild thought... You said that the guy's name means house builder in german, right? Well, that sounds like Architect to me...
Or at least liked to it. Someone building for the Architect, perhaps...
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:54 pm
Monki
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Holy crap...
Its Walshmo!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:01 pm
bakntime
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If Wongmo has never met anyone in person, how is he making any money? I assumed that dozens of these people had payed him for his seminars, hence the nasty letters of complaint about him "changing" thier family members.
AQN isn't Walsh, IMO. Again, I'll echo the sentiment that there is, however, something to be gained from the fact that he hastily picked up his home (leaving behind only the phoenix drawing), moved out, and quickly created this new persona.
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:03 pm
Sunny du Pree
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bakntime wrote:
King Mob wrote:
I think their clothes are simply the same because the PM's needed to give Wongmo a bit of a makeover from the new age guru into a more mainstream kind of guy; so the PM's simply took the Walsh image and used photoshop.
Bingo.
We don't need to see his identification... move along, move along...
Speaking of identification, I think that we now may know who possesed all of those passports....
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2885&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
but i could be wrong cause i didnt read the whole thread so forgive me if I am.....
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:21 pm
bakntime
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You're right. The passports belonged to AQN. Phillip took the pictures.
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:32 pm
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niobexrev
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Monki wrote:
Holy crap...
Its Walshmo!!!
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*shiver *
Oh my God! Someone send that in to Conan O'Brien for his "If They Mated" segment.
Oh, sh*t, Monki, I have a request. Start an "If They Mated" Metacortex HUMOR thread. I have sick fascination now.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:36 pm
Sunny du Pree
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Miss Starchild wrote:
You have very good points, but I still disagree with some things:
King Mob wrote:
We know Beth has met Steven Walsh, so she would almost certainly recognise him from his photograph; and we know Philip has been e-mailing Beth about Wongmo. I don't know if she ever visited Wongmo's site, but if she did, and Wongmo and Walsh were one and the same, she'd quickly make the connection. That doesn't seem to have happened.
I was talking about Wongmo's picture being fake. I think Walsh's pic is real. If Wongmo's picture is fake, Beth wouldn't recognise him.
King Mob wrote:
although (paranoia setting in here) Dina did disappear just before she was supposed to visit one of Wongmo's seminars didn't she?
Nothing like a good piece of paranoia, I say
I think that walsh and wongmo just shop in the same stores
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